Ghost of a Rider
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And of course you are simply lying, as usual.Trump was Acquitted..... TWICE!
That's only because of republicans in the senate. Both times they said they were going to acquit him long before the hearings even started. I guess he can brag that members of his party cared more about their party than the truth, but he can't brag that he wasn't guilty of the charges. Both times repubs admitted he did what he was charged with,
Why do you squarely base all of your political opinions on lies?
Trump was acquitted because whacko moonbat fake news and speculative false narratives do not constitute evidence of wrongdoing by DJT.
You heard McConnell's statement, didn't you? There is no doubt that Trump instigated the attack on the capitol, and that the people involved believed they were doing so on the instructions of their president who had falsely claimed the election was stolen.
I see nothing compelling here. When he says "There is no question...", it only means there is no question for him.
There was nothing illegal about Trump claiming the election was stolen. He was stating an opinion and that was his right. He is not responsible for criminal acts of his supporters.
I would go as far as to say that even if Trump had never claimed election fraud, a lot of his supporters would have anyway. Why do I say this? Because a lot of conservatives were already convinced before the election that Democrats would try to steal it. You may ask, Why would they think that? The answer is that they watched as Democrats constantly hounded him and relentlessly and mindlessly tried for four solid years to get him out of office on trumped up charges.
Democrats should have known something like this was going to happen. If Trump is in any way accountable then so are Democrats for doggedly going after him the way they did.
I have no doubt that you would go so far as to say anything to praise trump, and to protect him from facing the consequences of his traitorous behavior.
I've given you no reason to think I would say anything to praise trump or to protect him from facing the consequences of his "traitorous" behavior. Everything I said is absolutely true and my feelings about Trump are irrelevant here. I witnessed it all as a Republican and a conservative and I was thoroughly disgusted. I would have been disgusted no matter who the president was.
Fact: Trump's belief that the election was stolen and expressing this belief is not against the law.
If it was, he should have been impeached at that time. Now, in typical Democrat underhanded fashion, they want us to now believe that it was illegal for him to say this because a bunch of yahoos decided on their own to storm the Capital building. It's bullshit.
Fact: He is not responsible for criminal acts of his supporters.
Fact: A lot of conservatives were already convinced before the election that Democrats would try to steal it.
Many went so far as to launch a coup. Facts are facts, and the reality is he insigated an attack on the very foundation of our country just because he is too spoiled to admit he lost.
The fuck he did. I watched the entire seventy minute video of his speech at the rally that day and not once did he say anything that could even be construed as incitement.
I have no reason to try to change your mind. It's obvious that facts mean nothing to you, so I won't offer any. They only seem to confuse you anyway. You are wrong, and you will lose just like that fat orange loser you idolize.
You never even attempted to relay facts. You linked to a video of McConnell simply saying over and over again: "There is no question..."
That is not fact, that is opinion. Now, if you have facts, I challenge you to relay them to me and let me determine for myself. Otherwise, all I have to go on is Trump's and McConnel's speeches.
I think I was clear that I have no need or desire to try convincing you of anything. There will always be fools who want to believe bullshit and lies, and oviouslyyou are destined to be one of them. Believe what you want. dilligas (do i look like i give a shit) ?
First, if you don't give a shit then why did you bother responding at all? Second, if you don't provide facts or evidence (even when I specifically ask for it) then how do you know I'll believe it's bullshit? Third, did you honestly think McConnell saying "There's no question..." was proof or evidence? Did you assume that just because the rioters were Trump supporters that this is proof he incited it? Is that the only connection you have between Trump and the rioters?
Personal dislike and moral outrage are not evidence. I've watched liberals make a mockery of the legal principle innocent until proven guilty for four years based on this alone. And not just with Trump. You people seem to think that hurt feelings and moral outrage are enough to indict someone or have them fired or doxxed or whatever.
It is a total farce the way Democrats, liberals and mainstream media have gone after people in the last few years.
I often respond to point out right wing lies and stupidity. In this case, a lying right winger claimed Trump was innocent of the charges because he was aquitted. I responded with the remaks by the main person responsible for that aquittal. I have no requirement to explain his vote, or explain his remark, which are diametrically opposed. If you want to believe the vote proved trump's innocence in light of the remarks by McConnell, you are certainly free to do so. Of course you should expect people to point out your utter stupidity and lack of basic logic.
I don't give a shit about the remarks by the main person responsible for the acquittal, I'm basing my position on what was actually said by Trump in the video. Not once does Trump advocate storming the Capital or exhort his supporters to commit violence.
Base your opinion on anything you like. Your stated conclusion is still stupid and wrong, and doesn't show a lick of common sense..
Then tell me how I'm wrong because from what I've heard, Trump never said anything that could be construed as incitement.
You keep telling me I'm wrong, that I suck Trump's ass or about what others have said or concluded but the one thing you haven't given me is evidence. If you can point to any comment by Trump that proves incitement, I would love to see it.
Also, regarding the Republican in question who apparently said Trump was guilty but voted to acquit, I'm wondering how this is any different than Comey telling Congress that, yes, Hilary used a private server against the rules and yes, she did transmit e-mails with sensitive national security info included but yet, refused to indict.
This might surprise you, but I wasn't involved with the investigation, and I don't personally have any evidence. I have to go by what the ones actually involved say, and those that gathered the evidence, and a majority of those who were jury for the evidence (including many prominent republicans) say trump isguiltyof what was charged.
Okay, and I have to go by what Trump actually said.
Forgive me if I seem skeptical but Democrats have proven themselves to be anything but objective where Trump and his supporters are concerned. We are now hearing and seeing words like "purge", "reeducate" and "reprogram" from journalists and politicians in regards to Trump supporters. Personally, I find this idea taking hold in this country to be extremely unsettling and frightening.
Is it just rhetoric? Maybe that's all it is. Bit even if not, it displays a definite bias and a complete lack of objectivity. No longer are people being judged by their actions but rather by their political leaning and affiliations (that was the point of Carano's tweet). Much to my surprise, I discovered I am racist. Why? For being a Republican and conservative. That's how far things have gotten in four years.
Hillary wasn't charged because it was shown she had no intent to break the rules, while there is no doubt that Trump did intend to do what he was charged with, and knew that it was wrong.
Nick Sandmann had no intention of breaking any rules either and in fact, broke no rules. But people, including Democrat politicians, vilified him anyway. People still vilify him today even after the truth came out. Why? The fucking MAGA hat and their visceral hatred of Trump.
I understand the Sandmann and Clinton cases are wholly different in that no one brought charges against Sandmann. However, the kneejerk backlash and the hateful and vile things some said about him perfectly illustrates how the left allowed their hatred of Trump to get the better of them.
If Trump had done the same thing with the private server and all with no intent to break the rules, they would have crucified him in a second and you know it.