Zone1 In what ways is antisemitism “cloaked” as being against “just” Israel?

[Lisa558]

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Islam is Nit compatible with other religions

Been that way a thousand years. Right now they campaign to demonize Israel til all the world turns on them.

It’s in the bible. And it cant be stopped. But we can send some to Allah early on the way.

Of course. And if their enemies were blacks instead of Jews, with them clamoring to kill all the blacks, the lefttists here would be raising holy hell. But because the Islamists side against the Jews, and want THEM dead, all of a sudden they’re on the Islamists’ side.

The sky-high level of antisemitism we now see is being reflected right on this website.

 

[eagle1462010]

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Of course. And if their enemies were blacks instead of Jews, with them clamoring to kill all the blacks, the lefttists here would be raising holy hell. But because the Islamists side against the Jews, and want THEM dead, all of a sudden they’re on the Islamists’ side.

The sky-high level of antisemitism we now see is being reflected right on this website.

Well. Trump just ***** Slapped the biggest Bigots in the world.

I dont think its over yet

 

[Dogmaphobe]

He’s a “good debater” by lying about the Jewish state? Saying Jews are committing “genocide” while ignoring what the Muslim blacks in Nigeria are doing to Christians? What the Muslim savages in Iran are doing to their own people?

No, he’s just an antisemite, demonizing and lying about Jews.

No wonder you like him.

It just goes to show that nothing unites the extreme left and extreme right quite like Jews.

 

[JoeB131]

Lisa is in a squealing mood today.

He’s a “good debater” by lying about the Jewish state? Saying Jews are committing “genocide” while ignoring what the Muslim blacks in Nigeria are doing to Christians? What the Muslim savages in Iran are doing to their own people?

No, he’s just an antisemite, demonizing and lying about Jews.

No wonder you like him.

The only people demonizing the Jews are the Israeli government. You should probably work on that.

Here's the thing. We aren't funding Nigeria or Iran. We aren't arming them. What they are doing is horrible, but it's also not America's responsibility.

The antisemites lie about Jews “ethnically cleansing” Isrsel, while ignoring:

1) More than 20% of Israelis are Muslim, with full voting rights

Um, that's nice. But most Muslims living in Israel and the Occupied Territories DON'T have voting rights. (If they did, they'd vote the Zionist Entity out of existence.)

2) It is the MUSLIMS who ethnically cleansed the entire Middle East of Jews, except for less than 1/2 of 1% - and they want to eliminate that too. Their motto: No Jews ANYWHERE.

Wow, telling this lie again.

The lion's share of that number comes from three North African Countries - Morocco, Tunisia, and Algeria. Now, the key point you ignore is that those Jews left when the French left. They were part of the French occupational government. They weren't targeted because they were Jews; they were targeted because they were colonizers. (And most of them didn't go to Israel, they went to France)

IN the case of Iraq, Israel openly encouraged Iraqi Jews to emigrate.

In the case of Egypt, the Jews were driven out AFTER Israel conspired with the UK and France to steal the Suez Canal.

Lying about what Israel is doing because of hatred for Jews IS.

You really think we’re so stupid that we don’t know what you people are lying about “genocide”? And why you are focusing this lie on the Jewish country? Where’s your outrage at what the black Muslims are doing in Nigeria? Or your outrage about what the Islamic savages are doing in Iran?

The Israelis have killed (conservatively) at least 3% of the population of Gaza. How is that not a genocide?

Iran may have killed 6000 people putting down Mossad-instigated protests, which is a tragedy, but given Iran has 90 million people. It's really not a big number.

I can’t figure out why these posters focus only on the Jews, and never complain about REALLY bigoted countries. Such a mystery.

Um, because we've explained it to you multiple times.

We pump billions propping up Israel, it's the focus of our defense strategy in a part of the world we would otherwise not care about, and there is a nasty lobby of awful people keeping it that way in Washington. For instance, in my district, AIPAC dumped millions of dollars propping up Melissa Bean because her opponent was a Muslim (Turkish) who supports the Squad.

 

[JoeB131]

If Bigotry is behind your view then it is bigotry.

No better BIGOTS in the world than Muslim Nations who are bigots to the point Israel must die.

These same countries have driven out most all other relgions.

Take Hindu Kursh Mountains. Means Hindu Slaughter. Muzzies were biggots to Hindus.

This is why India and pakistan Hate each other.

Well, that's not really true.

If you travel across the ME, you will find Christians (Coptic and Maronite), Yazidi, Druze, Hindus, Baha'i, Zoroasterians, Mandians, and a wide array of other religions.

Compared to Europe, where all non-Christian religions were completely extinguished.

Of course. And if their enemies were blacks instead of Jews, with them clamoring to kill all the blacks, the lefttists here would be raising holy hell. But because the Islamists side against the Jews, and want THEM dead, all of a sudden they’re on the Islamists’ side.

The sky-high level of antisemitism we now see is being reflected right on this website.

The high level is because of your own behavior.

No one in the ME had a problem with you until you started stealing their land after WWII.

 

[sparky]

We pump billions propping up Israel, it's the focus of our defense strategy in a part of the world we would otherwise not care about,

A strategy FDR started iirc Joe......~S~

 

[JoeB131]

A strategy FDR started iirc Joe......~S~

Not exactly.

It's doubtful that FDR would have supported the creation of Israel, and Truman only recognized it grudgingly against the advice of Marshall.

Eisenhower had the good sense to snap Israel back when they tried to upset the international order during the Suez Crisis.

It isn't until LBJ and later do you see where the Zionist Lobby has hijacked our politics.

 

[SweetTea]

Except Obama had an agreement in place to keep them from getting nukes. Trump tore it up.

I just saw this old post. Funny stuff that you actually believe that Obama’s agreement was working. Also, why would we need to keep them from getting nukes anyway? In the last few months we have been told that suddenly Iran isn’t a threat.

 

[JoeB131]

I just saw this old post. Funny stuff that you actually believe that Obama’s agreement was working. Also, why would we need to keep them from getting nukes anyway? In the last few months we have been told that suddenly Iran isn’t a threat.

JCPAO worked just fine.

Iran wasn't building a nuke
the Strait of Hormuz was open
We weren't expending billions of dollars on munitions that can't be quickly replaced.

 

[SweetTea]

JCPAO worked just fine.

Iran wasn't building a nuke
the Strait of Hormuz was open
We weren't expending billions of dollars on munitions that can't be quickly replaced.

JCPOA gave them billions to fund terrorism in the ME. They were also enriching uranium under JCPOA to levels far higher than what is needed for power. Why?

The Strait was open and it will be again. Iran will be much poorer with much less bargaining power when this is over.

 

[JoeB131]

JCPOA gave them billions to fund terrorism in the ME. They were also enriching uranium under JCPOA to levels far higher than what is needed for power. Why?

Why not?

Yes, you can generate power with Uranium enriched to 3%, but to do it efficiently, you need it at higher levels.

The Strait was open and it will be again. Iran will be much poorer with much less bargaining power when this is over.

So you keep telling yourself.

Gasoline is up to 5.29 a gallon out by me.

 

[Hollie]

JCPAO worked just fine.

Iran wasn't building a nuke
the Strait of Hormuz was open
We weren't expending billions of dollars on munitions that can't be quickly replaced.

Ummm, JCPOA was a laughable joke. The mullocrats knew that and repeatedly refused inspections. They knew that the Magic Kenyan would capitulate and kowtow to their demands.

 

[georgephillip]

It's doubtful that FDR would have supported the creation of Israel, and Truman only recognized it grudgingly against the advice of Marshall.

Throughout much of 1948, Truman was not regarded as the likely winner of that year's POTUS contest:
There is also a persistent anecdote of a $2 million donation to Truman's campaign in exchange Harry's support for Israel:

GoogleAI Overview:

• "The Anecdote: Author Gore Vidal claimed that John F. Kennedy told him an American Zionist brought $2 million in cash on a suitcase to Truman's campaign train in 1948, leading to the rapid recognition of Israel.
• The Role of Eddie Jacobson: Truman's former business partner, Eddie Jacobson, played a crucial role, famously convincing Truman to meet with Zionist leader Chaim Weizmann in March 1948.
• Campaign Finance Context: Truman was in a tough reelection battle in 1948 and his advisors, including Clark Clifford, recognized the importance of the Jewish vote, though this is often framed as strategic politics rather than a direct cash-for-recognition transaction."

 

[Polishprince]

JCPAO worked just fine.

Iran wasn't building a nuke
the Strait of Hormuz was open
We weren't expending billions of dollars on munitions that can't be quickly replaced.

So you approve of Iran's policy of defenestrating homos? President Trump sure helped raise liberal support for the Mullahs I can see.

 

[Winston]

JCPOA gave them billions to fund terrorism in the ME. They were also enriching uranium under JCPOA to levels far higher than what is needed for power. Why?

The Strait was open and it will be again. Iran will be much poorer with much less bargaining power when this is over.

Oh brother. Obama gave Iran Iran's money, it was the completion of an agreement made by RONALD REAGAN, and Obama negotiated down to about thirty cents on the dollar.

As to enriching uranium, HEU is used in medicine and agricultural research. The people of Iran have every right to that technology and under the JCPOA they were being supplied that HEU. Trump cut that off, what was Iran supposed to do, let their citizens die from lack of access to medical testing.

What you Trump nuts don't get, Iran was not in violation of the JCPOA. They actually shipped out tons of UF6, and yes, we were supplying them with HEU for their medical use and agricultural research. Yes, they always refused unlimited access to military facilities, but most of their facilities were under constant, CONSTANT, monitoring through CCTV, just like North Korea before Bush screwed the pooch.

But as to Iran and their power, they are in a much better position now than before the war started. Those crazy religious fundamentalists have a firm grip on power, and you better hope they can keep the military in line. They can control the Strait, they didn't know they could before, now they do.

And we have shot our proverbial load. I mean it is bad, really, really bad. Worse than anyone will say. We cannot, at the moment, maintain air superiority over two fronts. And not to be mean, but that damn parade should have been a wake up call. And now the Administration wants a trillion dollar defense budget? I mean this has been a total shit show. Aircraft carriers literally swimming in shit. Antiquated submarines with no replacements anywhere on the horizon. No real mine sweepers. Half, damn half, of the Air Force fleet is NOT battle ready. WTF?

NO, we need a deal. There is no choice. At this point, we got to lick our wounds and sheepishly find our way back home. Then, we have to make a decision. Do we want to continue to be the world's policeman? I mean what is in it for us? Maybe it is time for the Trump administration, for our government, to walk the walk instead of talk the talk. Yes, make America first. The people first.

And that is just it. Real leadership, true leadership, involves putting the people first. A real leader doesn't throw people under the bus, he flipping stands in front of that damn bus and dares it to pass by. We are pretty well positioned, but we have some real problems to deal with. Ship building capacity probably first and foremost, and get that damn air-to-air missile inventory built back up.

We can't do that and have military operations in 40 11 countries. Time to withdraw in our shell.

 

[pal]

The US give support to Israel and Jews in its Middle East policy.

The US give funds to Israel.

The US work to Israel.

 

[Robert W]

JCPAO worked just fine.

Iran wasn't building a nuke
the Strait of Hormuz was open
We weren't expending billions of dollars on munitions that can't be quickly replaced.

Keep this in mind about JoeB131, he came to us from on high and knows about 100 percent of any issue there is. He will explain this to you.

 

[dblack]

In what ways is criticism of Israel deflected as anti-semitism?

It's par for the course. **** that. Israel isn't beyond criticism.

 

[Robert W]

Oh brother. Obama gave Iran Iran's money, it was the completion of an agreement made by RONALD REAGAN, and Obama negotiated down to about thirty cents on the dollar.

As to enriching uranium, HEU is used in medicine and agricultural research. The people of Iran have every right to that technology and under the JCPOA they were being supplied that HEU. Trump cut that off, what was Iran supposed to do, let their citizens die from lack of access to medical testing.

What you Trump nuts don't get, Iran was not in violation of the JCPOA. They actually shipped out tons of UF6, and yes, we were supplying them with HEU for their medical use and agricultural research. Yes, they always refused unlimited access to military facilities, but most of their facilities were under constant, CONSTANT, monitoring through CCTV, just like North Korea before Bush screwed the pooch.

But as to Iran and their power, they are in a much better position now than before the war started. Those crazy religious fundamentalists have a firm grip on power, and you better hope they can keep the military in line. They can control the Strait, they didn't know they could before, now they do.

And we have shot our proverbial load. I mean it is bad, really, really bad. Worse than anyone will say. We cannot, at the moment, maintain air superiority over two fronts. And not to be mean, but that damn parade should have been a wake up call. And now the Administration wants a trillion dollar defense budget? I mean this has been a total shit show. Aircraft carriers literally swimming in shit. Antiquated submarines with no replacements anywhere on the horizon. No real mine sweepers. Half, damn half, of the Air Force fleet is NOT battle ready. WTF?

NO, we need a deal. There is no choice. At this point, we got to lick our wounds and sheepishly find our way back home. Then, we have to make a decision. Do we want to continue to be the world's policeman? I mean what is in it for us? Maybe it is time for the Trump administration, for our government, to walk the walk instead of talk the talk. Yes, make America first. The people first.

And that is just it. Real leadership, true leadership, involves putting the people first. A real leader doesn't throw people under the bus, he flipping stands in front of that damn bus and dares it to pass by. We are pretty well positioned, but we have some real problems to deal with. Ship building capacity probably first and foremost, and get that damn air-to-air missile inventory built back up.

We can't do that and have military operations in 40 11 countries. Time to withdraw in our shell.

OK folks, now you got a huge dose from a friend to Iran. Any friends of the United States want to say a word salad too?

 

[Robert W]

In what ways is criticism of Israel deflected as anti-semitism?

It's par for the course. **** that. Israel isn't beyond criticism.

There are so often written derogatory things about Israel which includes it's citizens that is what is called antisemitism.