Zone1 The Feast of Tabernacles "Sukkot"

[SweetSue92]

It’s not YOUR holiday! It’s a Jewish holiday!

You don’t get to talk about “our holidays” as if you’re Jewish, and then go on and on about how Jews have been blinded by Gd and they need to believe in Jesus, blah, blah, blah.

You are not Jewish.

Yeah I don't get it. I respect the holidays but don't celebrate them. Or post about them. Hmm

 

[SweetSue92]

Thank you so much for this.

As you obviously can discern, I pointed out the disconnect between Crossbody discussing “our” (as in Jewish holidays), and then freely demonstrating his contempt for those of us who do not believe in Jesus. He is indeed a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

He reminds me of an experience I had when I was around 17 or 18. I went to a teen dance at the synagogue, and met a seemingly nice boy. He took my phone number, and then called a day or so later to invite me to “a concert.”

Well. I was one confused teenager when at the “concert” - which turned out to be a Jews for Jesus type thing - the people on stage, along with the congregation, started praising “Yeshua.” I had no idea who this Yeshua was, as I was raised in traditional Jewish family, and we never praised anyone other than Gd.

When I got home and told me parents about the weird service and asked my parents who Yeshua was, they were shocked - and then explained it was another name for Jesus. We were ALL upset by this wolf who was going around to teen dances at synogogues, inviting unsuspecting Jewish girls to a Jesus event, and under false pretenses. We told the rabbi about it, and we never saw the guy there again.

Anyway, I hadn’t thought about this incident in decades, until I came across Crossbody - with his fake celebration of Jewish holidays.

Thanks again, as always, for being so understanding and respectful of my religion.

What.....that.......

Dishonest on its face, just for starters!

 

[SweetSue92]

Nice thoughts but hardly realistic. God says that we love him by loving others. The Jews have no love for non-Jews, even less for Christians.

Don't like women, don't like Jews, etc. But it's all covered in your "private interpretation" of the Bible.....

 

[Lisa558]

So what's this all about?

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That’s different. That’s to build bridges between the two religions. I myself contribute to the Fellowship of Christians and Jews.

That doesn’t mean that what Jews do from a religious standpoint has any bearing on Christians from a religious standpoint. IOW, we don’t have to convert to YOUR religion to meet YOUR predictions about End Days.

All we ask is for the insistent Christians like you to leave us alone and stop telling us we are blind, or going to hell, or whatever. How would YOU like it if Jews were telling Christians - and in an arrogant way - that Gd is angry at you for believing a mortal man is his son, and unless you stop the nonsense, you won’t get to Heaven?

 

[Lisa558]

Jewish scholars and Rabbis pay great attention to Jesus Christ, even if the laity doesn't.

No they don’t.

 

[Lisa558]

Yeah I don't get it. I respect the holidays but don't celebrate them. Or post about them. Hmm

Very weird. I think he’s one of those Jews-for-Jesus frauds.

 

[Meriweather]

But not to Christ.

Christians believe the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are One. Which made me wonder why you excluded the Father and the Holy Spirit...

 

[Meriweather]

Jewish scholars and Rabbis pay great attention to Jesus Christ, even if the laity doesn't.

I would not say 'great attention'. Scholars might pay some attention as that is included in study of theology. Some Rabbis may as well so they can answer questions from the laity or challenges from outsiders.

 

[Lisa558]

I would not say 'great attention'. Scholars might pay some attention as that is included in study of theology. Some Rabbis may as well so they can answer questions from the laity or challenges from outsiders.

If Jesus was important to my religion, a rabbi would have mentioned him at least once in my 60+ years of going to services and taking Jewish study classes. He is irrelevant to Judaism, but as you say, rabbis may have studied him so they can answer questions if they come up.

And they certainly would not have called him Jesus Christ. He would have just been Jesus, a mortal Jew who lived 2000 years ago, and who had a religion develop around him after his death.

 

[Meriweather]

If Jesus was important to my religion, a rabbi would have mentioned him at least once in my 60+ years of going to services and taking Jewish study classes. He is irrelevant to Judaism, but as you say, rabbis may have studied him so they can answer questions if they come up.

And they certainly would not have called him Jesus Christ. He would have just been Jesus, a mortal Jew who lived 2000 years ago, and who had a religion develop around him after his death.

I've been to Jewish services a very few times, but all were moving and stirring; quite beautiful and meaningful.

Some early Jews believed Jesus' body was taken from the tomb, while the Apostles (and others) were adamant that they saw him after his resurrection. I find it unlikely (given the human nature of the Apostles) that a religion/faith would have developed without the resurrection. This is a great sticking point between the two faiths; not to mention the fact Jesus maintained he is the son the God, one with God. It prevents the faithful on both sides from stepping over to the other persuasion.

Because there is so much we hold in common, Christianity should stand in solidarity with Judaism, and not only stand fiercely and protectively against persecution/denigration of Jews and their faith, we should also be loyal brothers and sisters to the other on our journeys, confident that in the end all differences will be cleared by God, and both will be saying, "We were correct about this, and we were wrong about that..." with God agreeing but also noting both did right by what was given/passed on to each. The reason I say this is because both Jews and Christians are in agreement that God is far beyond what we humans are capable of understanding.

 

[crossbody]

This is the fourth day of the Feast of Tabernacles.

 

[shimon]

If Jesus was important to my religion, a rabbi would have mentioned him at least once in my 60+ years of going to services and taking Jewish study classes. He is irrelevant to Judaism, but as you say, rabbis may have studied him so they can answer questions if they come up.

And they certainly would not have called him Jesus Christ. He would have just been Jesus, a mortal Jew who lived 2000 years ago, and who had a religion develop around him after his death.

They don’t have a real name for this fellow the letter J has only been around since the late 16 th century and his existence outside of the New Testament sources is questionable to say the least…There are a lot of pious frauds in the world…That is why Jews were known as Yuhud.. Now that being said there is no letter P in Arabic if I am not mistaken so there could never have been a Palestine either or it is a construct of only a few years ago… I am not interested in debating these things as it has been hotly debated all over this forum on many threads… People should just seek knowledge so they cannot be fooled and become “ fools for a Christ” that did not historically exist at least as one person and esp if they are Jews for as we are told in our scriptures “my people are destroyed by their lack of knowledge”… So itis up to us to become knowledgeable so no one or nothing FOOLS us….Besides here is the most important most logical thing to understand if Jews and Christian’s worship the same g-d then why do they spend so much time and effort and devious designs to convert us away from the gd of Abraham Isaac and Jacob… Obviously we do not worship the same gd and gd himself states in many places not to place any other gds before him and he is one not three and he is alone by himself period end of discussion and checkmate…..

 

[crossbody]

The Feast of Tabernacles

Throughout this feast , in many Jewish homes and synagogues, a such will be contracted. A sukkah (meaning tabernacle or booth) is a temporary structure made out of the lumber, grass, or any other natural substance, and is decorated with natural materials including tree branches, leaves, flowers, vegetables, and fruit. During the celebration of Sukkot, many people will eat their meals and sleep in the sukkah for the entire seven days of the feast. While in the sukkah, Jewish people remember how they had nothing in the wilderness but God, who for forty years supplied their every need.

 

[crossbody]

God fed them supernaturally with manna, gave them water out of a rock, and caused their clothes no tot wear out. They had nothing but God, yet He was enough! This is another beautiful foreshadowing of how we should Iive our lives today; totally dependent on Him!

 

[Woodznutz]

I would not say 'great attention'. Scholars might pay some attention as that is included in study of theology. Some Rabbis may as well so they can answer questions from the laity or challenges from outsiders.

Nailed it! A simple search, "What Jews think about Jesus Christ" reveals that the Jews think a lot about Christ. These lengthy articles are written by Jewish scholars and Rabbis and are intended for general consumption. And they are still on the internet for continuous education.

 

[Woodznutz]

If Jesus was important to my religion, a rabbi would have mentioned him at least once in my 60+ years of going to services and taking Jewish study classes. He is irrelevant to Judaism, but as you say, rabbis may have studied him so they can answer questions if they come up.

If you had asked your Rabbi about Jesus, I'm sure he would have unloaded on you about him.

 

[Woodznutz]

No they don’t.

Search the topic. Lots of info online from Jewish Scholars and Rabbis.

 

[Woodznutz]

We are NOT joined at the hip. What happens to us, happens to us - and has no bearing on Christians FROM OUR POINT OF VIEW.

The whole End of Days thing is a Christian concept. It plays no role in Judaism.

Ever hear the term "Judeo-Christian"?

 

[Woodznutz]

can you provide ANY evidence that justifies your statement? It is something like the secret
recipe for transforming rocks into gold HIDDEN
in the talmud?

Search the subject online. Lot of info here.

 

[Lisa558]

If you had asked your Rabbi about Jesus, I'm sure he would have unloaded on you about him.

What would I even ask him? From my experience, they have no interest in him at all, but I suppose if I came up with a good question, they would answer.

What do you suggest I ask? Here are some possibilities:

1) Did Jesus say (or imply) you don’t need to keep kosher?
2) Did Jesus intend to abolish Judaism and start a new religion?
3) Was Paul the one who started the whole resurrection talk and spoke negatively about Jews?
4) Why are some Christians so insistent we abandon Judaism and worship this guy rather than just let us worship in accordance with the teachings of our religion?
5) Is Jesus rolling over in his grave seeing how many of the descendants of his fellow Jews are so hateful in dealing with current Jews?