Zone1 "Is it lawful on the Sabbath, to save life or to kill? [Rabbi Yeshua]

[DennisPTate]

The Jews fought back when the Islamists launched a war on Yom Kippur, too.

Antisemitic Arabs often pick a major Jewish holiday for their surprise attacks. Oct 7 was on Simchat Torah - a joyous holiday.

Exactly!

That question by Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus also relates to the events surrounding the fall of Jericho during the time of the Judge, Joshua.

Did the Jews of the time of Joshua walk around Jerico at least once on at least two Sabbath?

Or did they walk around Jericho on at least one annual High Sabbath, SEVEN times?

 

[Lisa558]

Exactly!

That question by Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus also relates to the events surrounding the fall of Jericho during the time of the Judge, Joshua.

Did the Jews of the time of Joshua walk around Jerico at least once on at least two Sabbath?

Or did they walk around Jericho on at least one annual High Sabbath, SEVEN times?

On Sabbath, they walked around SEVEN times.

 

[DennisPTate]

On Sabbath, they walked around SEVEN times.

That is exactly the impression that I had as well!

I suspect that the "Sabbath Day's Journey" that the Pharisees and Scribes put into effect may have been somewhat exaggerated in the context of the full topic of the Sabbath that is there in the Jewish scriptures?

 

[Lisa558]

That is exactly the impression that I had as well!

I suspect that the "Sabbath Day's Journey" that the Pharisees and Scribes put into effect may have been somewhat exaggerated in the context of the full topic of the Sabbath that is there in the Jewish scriptures?

That degree of knowledge I do not have!

 

[rosends]

That is exactly the impression that I had as well!

I suspect that the "Sabbath Day's Journey" that the Pharisees and Scribes put into effect may have been somewhat exaggerated in the context of the full topic of the Sabbath that is there in the Jewish scriptures?

You would be wrong. It behooves one to ask rather than invent an explanation.

 

[DennisPTate]

You would be wrong. It behooves one to ask rather than invent an explanation.

Yes, I could be wrong, but I have been religious myself for about fifty years and I have noticed over and over again that sincerely religious people will tend to put a safety hedge around the laws and prohibitions that they consider to be important.

It is just a part of human nature, no matter what our specific theology is.

 

[fncceo]

So why don't some Orthodox, Conservative or even Reform Jewish Rabbi's quote Rabbi Yeshua

Because they don’t quote fictional characters.

 

[DennisPTate]

Because they don’t quote fictional characters.

In comparison to The Being of Light of near death experience fame I believe that you and I are more so like "fictional characters."

The resurrected Jesus is appearing to more and more people as medical science improves and more people are brought back from flatlining.

 

[DennisPTate]

Are you a millennial? Sadly (from my perspective), about 20% of Jews in that generation have veered off course. The Nazis destroyed half of all Jews in the world, and now a percentage of the younger ones are abandoning it of their own volition.

I am sure you disagree, but I - along with the vast majority of Jews - follow the teachings of our religion and do not ascribe supernatural powers to a mortal.

I was born in 1959 but I had my brain kind of blow with astonishing information since 1990.

I am wide open to the possibility that Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus and John the Baptist may have been mentored by Essene Jews?


A near death experiencer was shown Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus giving a speech in a flavour that would fit perfectly with Chassidic Judaism.

"You do not understand this life, he said on a later occasion, so you do not understand what you can achieve. You think that you were born and die and have only the time in between to live. The Sadducees do not even believe in the resurrection. And the Pharisees and Essenes believe you are saved or damned on the basis of what you do here in this life.

So you judge and condemn others and forsake love in order to enter heaven. Yet I tell you that the Father has many heavens and many homes for you. This is not your only life, and these are not the only things you have to learn. You will have lives in other times and places.

Do not judge the gentiles? You may have been a Gentile. Do not judge the prostitute You may have been a prostitute. Do not judge the Roman or Greek? You may have been those.

"The Father wishes you to know the life of the world in all its conditions so that you may be able to love those in all conditions. He wishes you to learn poverty and wealth, weakness and strength, sickness and health so that, in all these, you may seek Him and find Him.

Is He the Father only of the righteous? No, he is Father of all and Mother of all. All may come to God and find the love appropriate to their condition. Are you poor? Learn to love your fellows. Are you rich? Learn to give of your surplus to those who have nothing. Are you in a place of power? Learn to use your power for the good of others. Learn the love appropriate to the condition you are in and all conditions will become blessed.

"So, do not fear what people can do to your body, because you will have many more of those. Rather, avoid those who can kill the soul within you, those who would destroy love and the light of your soul. I tell you, you will have much more to learn then, and at the end of the Age, those who have not learned love will enter the Long Sleep, while those who have learned love, will inherit the New Earth which the Father prepares for them."

"In each life, you are affected by what happened in other lives, but you in turn can affect those lives. The Father has not put you in a prison, that you can change nothing. Rather, you can do anything when your inner eyes are opened and you see the Kingdom within."

"Now, even you who follow me see dimly as through a fog. So do not, in that condition, set up laws for others to follow. Rather, teach others to grow in spirit so that their eyes may be opened to the peace and love of the Father."

The Father wishes good for you, not evil. If then, you bring your fears and errors before the Father in meditation, He will help you to understand and be free. The Father does not condemn: you condemn yourself."

"If you judge, you will be judged. If you condemn, you are already condemned. If you do not love, how will you know love? If you are cruel, cruelty will come to you. What you are within yourself ----- that you will draw to yourself." (Bruce F. MacDonald Ph. D., The Thomas Book, Near Death, A Quest and a New Gospel by the Twin Brother of Jesus.
page 117,118 )