The ‘dark side’ of capitalism

[Skull Pilot]

With all that free stuff, being poor almost sounds like a wonderful dream. Shit I wonder why more people don't just quit their jobs and live like kings on public assistance? Could it be that the welfare programs do not meet even the most basic needs of the people on it? These people who have a picture of the poor being well taken care of and having no incentive to work just do not have a grasp of the reality of poverty in America, just because they have it better than people in Ethiopia is pointless to the discussion, in America they should not even exist in the numbers they do.

Rabid, sadly, has bought into the RW propaganda that the Poor are getting over on him with the pittance we spend on anti-poverty programs and not the big corporate welfare programs that he is subsidizing to the rich can continue to live large.

in 2012 alone almost a trillion dollars was spent on poverty programs. About 800 billion from the feds and the rest from states

I do not call that a pittance

 

[TooTall]

Greedy, savage, GOP capitalism, dingbats.

ROFLMNAO!

Deceit, FRAUD and Ignorance: The foundational elements of Evil and of course, it's political arm: Socialism.

Says the guy who drives on state-maintained streets and highways and still can't even find his own keys.

State streets and highways that are maintained by taxes from those that actually pay them. Or did you mean to imply that the state has money if its own?

 

[JoeB131]

in 2012 alone almost a trillion dollars was spent on poverty programs. About 800 billion from the feds and the rest from states

I do not call that a pittance

I'd call you a retard for even trying to make that claim.

Department of Health and Human Services including Medicare and Medicaid	78.3
Department of Education	71.2
Department of Veterans Affairs	63.5
Department of Housing and Urban Development	33.1

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Department of Agriculture

21.5

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

2014 United States federal budget - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Nowhere near 800 billion, even if you clam all their expenditures were anti-poverty.

 

[Antares]

Dip shit Carter's economy was shit and everyone with a brain knows it.

It's pretty safe to say that nobody n this bard cares what you think about them Joe, we all know you are bitter old piece of shit without a cue.

I noticed you avoided the point. If Carter's policies were so bad, why did Reagan continue them? He used unemployment to beat inflation. That was his policy. Those wage slaves were making too much.

He did give out government cheese, though.

No deflection Joe, I said Carter's Economy was bad and it was.
NOBODY with a brain wants to go back to those conditions.
You know I won't let you deflect or move the goalpost, why try?

 

[Antares]

"On assuming office in 1977, President Carter inherited an economy that was slowly emerging from a recession. He had severely criticized former President Ford for his failures to control inflation and relieve unemployment, but after four years of the Carter presidency, both inflation and unemployment were considerably worse than at the time of his inauguration. The annual inflation rate rose from 4.8% in 1976 to 6.8% in 1977, 9% in 1978, 11% in 1979, and hovered around 12% at the time of the 1980 election campaign. Although Carter had pledged to eliminate federal deficits, the deficit for the fiscal year 1979 totaled $27.7 billion, and that for 1980 was nearly $59 billion. With approximately 8 million people out of work, the unemployment rate had leveled off to a nationwide average of about 7.7% by the time of the election campaign, but it was considerably higher in some industrial states."

Jimmy Carter on Budget Economy

Clearly he knew what he was doing, great Presidents ALWAYS let UE jump almost 8 points upward n 4 years.
Oy Vey

 

[Contumacious]

"On assuming office in 1977, President Carter inherited an economy that was slowly emerging from a recession. He had severely criticized former President Ford for his failures to control inflation and relieve unemployment, but after four years of the Carter presidency, both inflation and unemployment were considerably worse than at the time of his inauguration. The annual inflation rate rose from 4.8% in 1976 to 6.8% in 1977, 9% in 1978, 11% in 1979, and hovered around 12% at the time of the 1980 election campaign. Although Carter had pledged to eliminate federal deficits, the deficit for the fiscal year 1979 totaled $27.7 billion, and that for 1980 was nearly $59 billion. With approximately 8 million people out of work, the unemployment rate had leveled off to a nationwide average of about 7.7% by the time of the election campaign, but it was considerably higher in some industrial states."

Jimmy Carter on Budget Economy

Clearly he knew what he was doing, great Presidents ALWAYS let UE jump almost 8 points upward n 4 years.
Oy Vey

Irrelevant the op is criticizing "Capitalism" not American Fascism.

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[The Rabbi]

Sorry but who is exploiting whom here?
The poor get to live like upper middle class people in most parts of the world. They get dat gummint check, free housing, free food, and free obamaphones. Who do you think pays for that shit, the tooth fairy? The middle and upper classes pay for all that. They are the ones getting exploited.

well, the middle class pays for it. The wealthy are getting a free ride with the low tax rates and tax shelters.

How much do you think an "Obamaphone" really costs a year?

The "wealthy" pay the lion's share of income taxes in this country.
If you didn thave misinformation you'd have no information at all.

 

[The Rabbi]

Sorry but who is exploiting whom here?
The poor get to live like upper middle class people in most parts of the world. They get dat gummint check, free housing, free food, and free obamaphones. Who do you think pays for that shit, the tooth fairy? The middle and upper classes pay for all that. They are the ones getting exploited.

well, the middle class pays for it. The wealthy are getting a free ride with the low tax rates and tax shelters.

How much do you think an "Obamaphone" really costs a year?

With all that free stuff, being poor almost sounds like a wonderful dream. Shit I wonder why more people don't just quit their jobs and live like kings on public assistance? Could it be that the welfare programs do not meet even the most basic needs of the people on it? These people who have a picture of the poor being well taken care of and having no incentive to work just do not have a grasp of the reality of poverty in America, just because they have it better than people in Ethiopia is pointless to the discussion, in America they should not even exist in the numbers they do.

That's actually exactly what's going on. Check rates of SSI enrollment. Those are people who could be working but would rather fake some illness in exchange for guaranteed income from Uncle.
You're such a doofus it's pitiful.

 

[JoeNormal]

And the POOR let them do it. So who's really at fault here? A large group of people that let them selves be exploited, or a small group of people that exploit them? That's the eternal question.

Sorry but who is exploiting whom here?
The poor get to live like upper middle class people in most parts of the world. They get dat gummint check, free housing, free food, and free obamaphones. Who do you think pays for that shit, the tooth fairy? The middle and upper classes pay for all that. They are the ones getting exploited.

Have you ever actually known anyone on government assistance? I used to design devices for people with mobility and hearing impairment. To see how they live on their 'generous' government stipend is deeply depressing. Here as in most posts, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

 

[bripat9643]

With all that free stuff, being poor almost sounds like a wonderful dream. Shit I wonder why more people don't just quit their jobs and live like kings on public assistance? Could it be that the welfare programs do not meet even the most basic needs of the people on it? These people who have a picture of the poor being well taken care of and having no incentive to work just do not have a grasp of the reality of poverty in America, just because they have it better than people in Ethiopia is pointless to the discussion, in America they should not even exist in the numbers they do.

Rabid, sadly, has bought into the RW propaganda that the Poor are getting over on him with the pittance we spend on anti-poverty programs and not the big corporate welfare programs that he is subsidizing to the rich can continue to live large.

in 2012 alone almost a trillion dollars was spent on poverty programs. About 800 billion from the feds and the rest from states

I do not call that a pittance

No matter how much is spent, the left will always call it insufficient.

 

[boilermaker55]

Quite the deflection by the best of all hypocrites!

Interesting that when the Pope speaks out against abortion and birth control he is out of touch and irrelevant. But when he bashes the one system that has improved people's lives more than the church ever did he is held up like a hero.
Libs are hypocrites.

 

[Skull Pilot]

in 2012 alone almost a trillion dollars was spent on poverty programs. About 800 billion from the feds and the rest from states

I do not call that a pittance

I'd call you a retard for even trying to make that claim.

Department of Health and Human Services including Medicare and Medicaid	78.3
Department of Education	71.2
Department of Veterans Affairs	63.5
Department of Housing and Urban Development	33.1

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Department of Agriculture

21.5

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

2014 United States federal budget - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Nowhere near 800 billion, even if you clam all their expenditures were anti-poverty.

CRS Report Welfare Spending The Largest Item In The Federal Budget - Budget Background - Research - U.S. Senate Budget Committee

Govt spent 1.028 trillion on welfare in FY 2011 The Daily Caller

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/11/opinion/americas-ineffective-antipoverty-effort.html?_r=0

 

[Mustang]

The ‘dark side’ of capitalism: The Pope highlights how the rich have exploited the poor



Since many evangelicals have forgotten that the Catholic church gave them the bible, the far-right "Christians" will ignore real Christian teachings.

The dark side of socialism: 200 million dead.

No contest.

Nope. I'm thinking of socialism. Not only that, but socialism has murdered 200 million people and caused untold millions to starve to death

Soviet slave labor building the White Sea Canal.

Those are criminals, numskull, not people who simply had the wrong opinions about the government or even those who were just related to someone who had the wrong opinions about the government..

In parts of America, it didn't take much of a violation of the law to end up on a chain gang. It was the equivalent of a modern-day speed trap in many ways. And if a person was poor, and/or not well connected, and he was either an outsider or didn't have any family to inquire into his whereabouts or when he was getting out, he could end up on a chain gang for several years for a minor offense. These chain gangs were frequently used by businesses to provide cheap labor with the proceeds being paid to the sheriff who ran the chain gang like the personal money-making operation it really was. That's capitalism, baby!

 

[JoeNormal]

The dark side of socialism: 200 million dead.

No contest.

Nope. I'm thinking of socialism. Not only that, but socialism has murdered 200 million people and caused untold millions to starve to death

Soviet slave labor building the White Sea Canal.

Those are criminals, numskull, not people who simply had the wrong opinions about the government or even those who were just related to someone who had the wrong opinions about the government..

In parts of America, it didn't take much of a violation of the law to end up on a chain gang. It was the equivalent of a modern-day speed trap in many ways. And if a person was poor, and/or not well connected, and he was either an outsider or didn't have any family to inquire into his whereabouts or when he was getting out, he could end up on a chain gang for several years for a minor offense. These chain gangs were frequently used by businesses to provide cheap labor with the proceeds being paid to the sheriff who ran the chain gang like the personal money-making operation it really was. That's capitalism, baby!

Now with the prison industrial complex, it's happening again.

 

[The Rabbi]

And the POOR let them do it. So who's really at fault here? A large group of people that let them selves be exploited, or a small group of people that exploit them? That's the eternal question.

Sorry but who is exploiting whom here?
The poor get to live like upper middle class people in most parts of the world. They get dat gummint check, free housing, free food, and free obamaphones. Who do you think pays for that shit, the tooth fairy? The middle and upper classes pay for all that. They are the ones getting exploited.

Have you ever actually known anyone on government assistance? I used to design devices for people with mobility and hearing impairment. To see how they live on their 'generous' government stipend is deeply depressing. Here as in most posts, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

Actually I do. And they are doing just fine.
So go just the fuck up and just kill yourself, kay?

 

[JoeB131]

No deflection Joe, I said Carter's Economy was bad and it was.
NOBODY with a brain wants to go back to those conditions.
You know I won't let you deflect or move the goalpost, why try?

Kind of depends. If you were one of the 92% who had a job, and it was a good union job that paid a good salary, you probably wouldn't mind going back to those conditions.

 

[JoeB131]

The "wealthy" pay the lion's share of income taxes in this country.
If you didn thave misinformation you'd have no information at all.

Income taxes aren't the only taxes there are, and the wealthy aren't paying anywhere near their fair share.

 

[JoeB131]

Although Carter had pledged to eliminate federal deficits, the deficit for the fiscal year 1979 totaled $27.7 billion, and that for 1980 was nearly $59 billion.

Your boy Reagan tripled the national debt. His 59 billion deficits where nothing like the 200 billion deficits Reagan ran up.

 

[JoeB131]

in 2012 alone almost a trillion dollars was spent on poverty programs. About 800 billion from the feds and the rest from states

I do not call that a pittance

I'd call you a retard for even trying to make that claim.

Department of Health and Human Services including Medicare and Medicaid	78.3
Department of Education	71.2
Department of Veterans Affairs	63.5
Department of Housing and Urban Development	33.1

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Department of Agriculture

21.5

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

2014 United States federal budget - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Nowhere near 800 billion, even if you clam all their expenditures were anti-poverty.

CRS Report Welfare Spending The Largest Item In The Federal Budget - Budget Background - Research - U.S. Senate Budget Committee

Govt spent 1.028 trillion on welfare in FY 2011 The Daily Caller

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/11/opinion/americas-ineffective-antipoverty-effort.html?_r=0

So you provide a bunch of OPINION columns and claim you made your point.

Tell you what, how about you make an ITEMIZED list of welfare programs that come out to a trillion dollars

 

[Antares]

Although Carter had pledged to eliminate federal deficits, the deficit for the fiscal year 1979 totaled $27.7 billion, and that for 1980 was nearly $59 billion.

Your boy Reagan tripled the national debt. His 59 billion deficits where nothing like the 200 billion deficits Reagan ran up.

Yet unlike Jimmuh he ended the recession and brought on almost full employment