the Biblical Basis for Socialism Is Undeniable, my friends

[Meriweather]

"and do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven."

Do you know the context? Did everyone immediately stop using the word? Do you know why? In Jesus' day, there were many sects of Judaism, and the founder of each sect was called 'Father'. Biological fathers and spiritual fathers were fine. Jesus was not the 'father' of Christianity, because as he said, there was only one founder of what he taught, and that founder is in heaven. Take a look through the letters of the New Testament. The spiritual father, spiritual child is seen throughout. No priest, not even the pope, is the founder of any new religion. They simply teach what Christ taught.

 

[BS Filter]

Where did Jesus or other biblical figures preach to redistribute wealth through the force of government?

That's not what Socialism is. Stop watching Fox.

That is socialism. I don't watch Fox. Stop listening to Bernie, who got kicked out of his own commune for being lazy.

Oh really? Do you have a source for that? Where did you get your definition of Socialism from?

Britannica Money

socialism, social and economic doctrine that calls for public rather than private ownership or control of property and natural resources. According to the socialist view, individuals do not live or work in isolation but live in cooperation with one another. Furthermore, everything that people

www.britannica.com

Nice, but you didn't read this.
Socialism is about collective ownership. It's not about government redistribution. It's also not about "big government" which I'm sure you also claim.

So you like paying 40 to 50 percent of your income to the government?

 

[Andylusion]

As i began to read Marx and Engels, it reminded me of the biblical messages i grew up with

By then, I had spent several years realizing that things were not right in our society. And now I saw there were other ways to organize an economy that reward people for their work and enable them to sustain themselves. Capitalism was doing that for some, but it was leaving a whole bunch of other people to suffer and die. And I learned that these class issues could not be divorced from race and gender

Jesus may come for ya after he's done with the globo homo commie pope
View attachment 434276

Git em Jesus

I do find it funny that Republican Christianity is so different from Biblical Christianity, that you guys have to condemn the pope. If Jesus was alive today, you'd hate that brown Socialist.

Where is the Pope in the Bible?

Secret's out, all religion is bullshit.

Biblical Christianity is not 'republican' or 'democrat', it is simply what it is. It just happens that Democrats stand for nearly everything that is anti-biblical.

Biblical Christianity involves helping the poor.
Republican Christianity is all about helping the rich.

Secret's out, all religion is bullshit.

No, not true. You found where Catholicism has some false doctrine. That's like me finding one single error in one post of yours, and declaring that everything you have ever said in your entire life, is BS.

Is that really the standard you want to promote? Because I can do a search on this forum for every post you have ever made, find one error, and by your own standard you yourself are entirely full of BS. Is that really the standard you want to push?

Biblical Christianity involves helping the poor.
Republican Christianity is all about helping the rich.

Yes, Biblical Christianity involves individuals helping the poor individually. Never supports socialism or social control, or equality. In fact Jesus specifically talked against this for his followers.

Luke 22:25-26
"The kings of the Gentiles lord it over them; and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors. But you are not to be like that."

The rulers sit around saying "I am your benefactor! I'm going to provide free education! I'm going to provide free health care! Free food! Free phones! I provide you with everything! Vote for me!"

But we, Christians are not to be like that.

And we are not. We don't sit around voting for someone else to help the poor, or demand that rich people help the poor, or like all socialists, enact policies to steal from one group to pay for the benefits of another.

We give to the poor ourselves. We help the poor ourselves. We help our fellow citizens ourselves.

Republicans give more to charity, donate more of their own money, and donate more of their own time, to helping the poor than left-wingers or Democrats, and by wide margin.

This is well documented.

Whatever You May Think of Republicans, Don't Call Them 'Stingy' | RealClearMarkets

Republicans are greedy. Theyre out for themselves as evidenced by their reflexive support of tax cuts for the rich. According to New York Times columnist Paul Krugman, the GOP is the...

www.realclearmarkets.com

Every single time they have researched charitable giving, Republicans, and specifically Christian Republicans routinely give vastly more than left-wing Democrats do.

Democrats are more like Judas.

John 12:5-6
"Why wasn't this perfume sold and the money given to the poor? It was worth a year's wages."
He did not say this because he cared about the poor but because he was a thief; as keeper of the money bag, he used to help himself to what was put into it.

And that's what we see with Democrats. They claim to help people, when really they are giving out kick backs to themselves.

Congress’s 5,593-page porky ‘relief’ bill is essence of the swamp

The $900 billion stimulus package COVID-19 “relief” bill is exactly what one would expect from a dysfunctional, tone-deaf Congress

thehill.com

Exhibit A: "Of the funds appropriated under title III of the Act that are made available for assistance for Pakistan, not less than $15,000,000 shall be made available for democracy programs and not less than $10,000,000 shall be made available for gender programs." Yep. $10 million. For gender programs. In Pakistan.

Covid relief bill, to help the poor.... Gender programs in Pakistan? That went to a political supporter somewhere. Someone who supported people in government, got money as a kick back, in a bill supposedly to help the people harmed by covid.

"and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors" Luke 22:25.

Exhibit K: The bill creates a Women's History Museum and an American Latino Museum as part of the Smithsonian. Overall, the Smithsonian gets (checks notes again) $1 billion.

Because we all know that what helps fight Covid, is a Women's history museum, and American Latino museum. Another political kick back to political supporters, in the name of helping people.

"and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors" Luke 22:25.

That's Democrats. We Christian Republicans are not to be like them. We're better than them. We're morally superior to them. And that's not opinion, it's fact.

We can look at the data. Christian charities literally help people move out of poverty, and improve their lives.

Democrats help themselves, while duping their followers.

The Obamas are worth 30 times more than when they entered the White House

Aside from the six-figure pension he receives as a former president, Barack Obama has made millions from speaking engagements and books. Here's how he and his family spend it.

www.afr.com

Obama started with $1 million net worth, and left with $40 Million net worth. He thanks you, for your support.

"and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors" Luke 22:25.

 

[Andylusion]

Where did Jesus or other biblical figures preach to redistribute wealth through the force of government?

That's not what Socialism is. Stop watching Fox.

That is socialism. I don't watch Fox. Stop listening to Bernie, who got kicked out of his own commune for being lazy.

Oh really? Do you have a source for that? Where did you get your definition of Socialism from?

Britannica Money

socialism, social and economic doctrine that calls for public rather than private ownership or control of property and natural resources. According to the socialist view, individuals do not live or work in isolation but live in cooperation with one another. Furthermore, everything that people

www.britannica.com

Nice, but you didn't read this.
Socialism is about collective ownership. It's not about government redistribution. It's also not about "big government" which I'm sure you also claim.

Nice, but you can't have that system unless you enforce it through government.

This is why every single attempt at socialism has required the use of force through government.

Why would I give up my property, my wealth, and my labor, to a collective? Well I wouldn't.

No one would. This is why Hugo Chavez, deployed the military to super markets.

Venezuelan Soldiers Deployed to Stores (Published 2013)

The socialist government dispatched soldiers to a major chain of electronic goods stores, ordering prices slashed there and in other shops it has accused of gouging.

www.nytimes.com

You can't get people to give away their stuff for free, or money losing prices, and give up control of their property, without the use of force.

Just like you can't get people to pay taxes without force. Greece jacked up their tax rate so high, that people just flat out refused to pay it. They started having squads of police roaming around hunting for tax dodgers, and still couldn't get people to pay.

This is why every Socialist system eventually ends in violence.

What example would you cite of any country where you had "social control" that didn't involve the government? You can say that's how it should be, but facts contradict reality.

And by the way, I find this argument ironic, because I don't see any socialists in the US, that are trying to get socialism WITHOUT the use of government. Where are those people?

Well they don't exist, because the people who try and have a socialist system without government, end up on communes, and find out that it sucks, and end up Capitalists. I know about 6 people who lived on communes, and it was horrible. It sucks. People don't work, and those that do work, end up sharing the results of their hard work, with people who didn't work, and eventually they leave the commune. Socialism is truly a terrible horrific system, for anyone who actually lives it.

 

[BreezeWood]

Where did Jesus or other biblical figures preach to redistribute wealth through the force of government?

That's not what Socialism is. Stop watching Fox.

Then tell us us exactly what socialism is.

.

Then tell us us exactly what socialism is.

.
doesn't matter, classical economics is determined by the economic model that attains full employment as the single criteria for success at least socialism has the correct objective irregardless how it is accomplished where full employment is antithetical to capitalism - the harbinger for christianity.

 

[BS Filter]

Where did Jesus or other biblical figures preach to redistribute wealth through the force of government?

That's not what Socialism is. Stop watching Fox.

Then tell us us exactly what socialism is.

.

Then tell us us exactly what socialism is.

.
doesn't matter, classical economics is determined by the economic model that attains full employment as the single criteria for success at least socialism has the correct objective irregardless how it is accomplished where full employment is antithetical to capitalism - the harbinger for christianity.

Oh yeah.

 

[Andylusion]

Where did Jesus or other biblical figures preach to redistribute wealth through the force of government?

That's not what Socialism is. Stop watching Fox.

Then tell us us exactly what socialism is.

.

Then tell us us exactly what socialism is.

.
doesn't matter, classical economics is determined by the economic model that attains full employment as the single criteria for success at least socialism has the correct objective irregardless how it is accomplished where full employment is antithetical to capitalism - the harbinger for christianity.

Full employment should never be the objective, because that requires force. You can't force people to get a job, if they refuse to do so.

Which again is why every single socialist system eventually results in force and violence. This is why Stalin had his gulags, Mao had his communes, North Korea has their forced labor, and so on.

Yes, any economic system can achieve full employment using violence and ruthless force.

To that end, yes full employment is antithetical to capitalism where people are free to make their own choices, and thus, they can choose to live on the streets, or choose to live on welfare if you are dumb enough to give that to them, or live on their own saved income as I am doing right now.

Full employment is a garbage goal. Freedom should be the goal, and Capitalism and Christianity both are completely in line with people being free to choose their own life.

 

[there4eyeM]

"and do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven."

Do you know the context? Did everyone immediately stop using the word? Do you know why? In Jesus' day, there were many sects of Judaism, and the founder of each sect was called 'Father'. Biological fathers and spiritual fathers were fine. Jesus was not the 'father' of Christianity, because as he said, there was only one founder of what he taught, and that founder is in heaven. Take a look through the letters of the New Testament. The spiritual father, spiritual child is seen throughout. No priest, not even the pope, is the founder of any new religion. They simply teach what Christ taught.

Nice try at parsing the words. This shows (again) how, given enough centuries, trained minds can deform and detour even the clearest message.

 

[there4eyeM]

the Biblical Basis for Socialism Is Undeniable, my friends
Certainly, collective action and social programs are necessitated for practicing Christians.

 

[Andylusion]

the Biblical Basis for Socialism Is Undeniable, my friends
Certainly, collective action and social programs are necessitated for practicing Christians.

No?.

 

[surada]

As i began to read Marx and Engels, it reminded me of the biblical messages i grew up with

By then, I had spent several years realizing that things were not right in our society. And now I saw there were other ways to organize an economy that reward people for their work and enable them to sustain themselves. Capitalism was doing that for some, but it was leaving a whole bunch of other people to suffer and die. And I learned that these class issues could not be divorced from race and gender

Jesus may come for ya after he's done with the globo homo commie pope
View attachment 434276

Git em Jesus

I do find it funny that Republican Christianity is so different from Biblical Christianity, that you guys have to condemn the pope. If Jesus was alive today, you'd hate that brown Socialist.

Where is the Pope in the Bible?

Secret's out, all religion is bullshit.

Biblical Christianity is not 'republican' or 'democrat', it is simply what it is. It just happens that Democrats stand for nearly everything that is anti-biblical.

Biblical Christianity involves helping the poor.
Republican Christianity is all about helping the rich.

Secret's out, all religion is bullshit.

No, not true. You found where Catholicism has some false doctrine. That's like me finding one single error in one post of yours, and declaring that everything you have ever said in your entire life, is BS.

Is that really the standard you want to promote? Because I can do a search on this forum for every post you have ever made, find one error, and by your own standard you yourself are entirely full of BS. Is that really the standard you want to push?

Biblical Christianity involves helping the poor.
Republican Christianity is all about helping the rich.

Yes, Biblical Christianity involves individuals helping the poor individually. Never supports socialism or social control, or equality. In fact Jesus specifically talked against this for his followers.

Luke 22:25-26
"The kings of the Gentiles lord it over them; and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors. But you are not to be like that."

The rulers sit around saying "I am your benefactor! I'm going to provide free education! I'm going to provide free health care! Free food! Free phones! I provide you with everything! Vote for me!"

But we, Christians are not to be like that.

And we are not. We don't sit around voting for someone else to help the poor, or demand that rich people help the poor, or like all socialists, enact policies to steal from one group to pay for the benefits of another.

We give to the poor ourselves. We help the poor ourselves. We help our fellow citizens ourselves.

Republicans give more to charity, donate more of their own money, and donate more of their own time, to helping the poor than left-wingers or Democrats, and by wide margin.

This is well documented.

Whatever You May Think of Republicans, Don't Call Them 'Stingy' | RealClearMarkets

Republicans are greedy. Theyre out for themselves as evidenced by their reflexive support of tax cuts for the rich. According to New York Times columnist Paul Krugman, the GOP is the...

www.realclearmarkets.com

Every single time they have researched charitable giving, Republicans, and specifically Christian Republicans routinely give vastly more than left-wing Democrats do.

Democrats are more like Judas.

John 12:5-6
"Why wasn't this perfume sold and the money given to the poor? It was worth a year's wages."
He did not say this because he cared about the poor but because he was a thief; as keeper of the money bag, he used to help himself to what was put into it.

And that's what we see with Democrats. They claim to help people, when really they are giving out kick backs to themselves.

Congress’s 5,593-page porky ‘relief’ bill is essence of the swamp

The $900 billion stimulus package COVID-19 “relief” bill is exactly what one would expect from a dysfunctional, tone-deaf Congress

thehill.com

Exhibit A: "Of the funds appropriated under title III of the Act that are made available for assistance for Pakistan, not less than $15,000,000 shall be made available for democracy programs and not less than $10,000,000 shall be made available for gender programs." Yep. $10 million. For gender programs. In Pakistan.

Covid relief bill, to help the poor.... Gender programs in Pakistan? That went to a political supporter somewhere. Someone who supported people in government, got money as a kick back, in a bill supposedly to help the people harmed by covid.

"and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors" Luke 22:25.

Exhibit K: The bill creates a Women's History Museum and an American Latino Museum as part of the Smithsonian. Overall, the Smithsonian gets (checks notes again) $1 billion.

Because we all know that what helps fight Covid, is a Women's history museum, and American Latino museum. Another political kick back to political supporters, in the name of helping people.

"and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors" Luke 22:25.

That's Democrats. We Christian Republicans are not to be like them. We're better than them. We're morally superior to them. And that's not opinion, it's fact.

We can look at the data. Christian charities literally help people move out of poverty, and improve their lives.

Democrats help themselves, while duping their followers.

The Obamas are worth 30 times more than when they entered the White House

Aside from the six-figure pension he receives as a former president, Barack Obama has made millions from speaking engagements and books. Here's how he and his family spend it.

www.afr.com

Obama started with $1 million net worth, and left with $40 Million net worth. He thanks you, for your support.

"and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors" Luke 22:25.

Muslims give far more to charity per capita than Christians. Charity is a sacred obligation in Islam. Its one of the Five Pillars.

 

[there4eyeM]

Jesus' basic social program; "Love one another".

 

[Andylusion]

As i began to read Marx and Engels, it reminded me of the biblical messages i grew up with

By then, I had spent several years realizing that things were not right in our society. And now I saw there were other ways to organize an economy that reward people for their work and enable them to sustain themselves. Capitalism was doing that for some, but it was leaving a whole bunch of other people to suffer and die. And I learned that these class issues could not be divorced from race and gender

Jesus may come for ya after he's done with the globo homo commie pope
View attachment 434276

Git em Jesus

I do find it funny that Republican Christianity is so different from Biblical Christianity, that you guys have to condemn the pope. If Jesus was alive today, you'd hate that brown Socialist.

Where is the Pope in the Bible?

Secret's out, all religion is bullshit.

Biblical Christianity is not 'republican' or 'democrat', it is simply what it is. It just happens that Democrats stand for nearly everything that is anti-biblical.

Biblical Christianity involves helping the poor.
Republican Christianity is all about helping the rich.

Secret's out, all religion is bullshit.

No, not true. You found where Catholicism has some false doctrine. That's like me finding one single error in one post of yours, and declaring that everything you have ever said in your entire life, is BS.

Is that really the standard you want to promote? Because I can do a search on this forum for every post you have ever made, find one error, and by your own standard you yourself are entirely full of BS. Is that really the standard you want to push?

Biblical Christianity involves helping the poor.
Republican Christianity is all about helping the rich.

Yes, Biblical Christianity involves individuals helping the poor individually. Never supports socialism or social control, or equality. In fact Jesus specifically talked against this for his followers.

Luke 22:25-26
"The kings of the Gentiles lord it over them; and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors. But you are not to be like that."

The rulers sit around saying "I am your benefactor! I'm going to provide free education! I'm going to provide free health care! Free food! Free phones! I provide you with everything! Vote for me!"

But we, Christians are not to be like that.

And we are not. We don't sit around voting for someone else to help the poor, or demand that rich people help the poor, or like all socialists, enact policies to steal from one group to pay for the benefits of another.

We give to the poor ourselves. We help the poor ourselves. We help our fellow citizens ourselves.

Republicans give more to charity, donate more of their own money, and donate more of their own time, to helping the poor than left-wingers or Democrats, and by wide margin.

This is well documented.

Whatever You May Think of Republicans, Don't Call Them 'Stingy' | RealClearMarkets

Republicans are greedy. Theyre out for themselves as evidenced by their reflexive support of tax cuts for the rich. According to New York Times columnist Paul Krugman, the GOP is the...

www.realclearmarkets.com

Every single time they have researched charitable giving, Republicans, and specifically Christian Republicans routinely give vastly more than left-wing Democrats do.

Democrats are more like Judas.

John 12:5-6
"Why wasn't this perfume sold and the money given to the poor? It was worth a year's wages."
He did not say this because he cared about the poor but because he was a thief; as keeper of the money bag, he used to help himself to what was put into it.

And that's what we see with Democrats. They claim to help people, when really they are giving out kick backs to themselves.

Congress’s 5,593-page porky ‘relief’ bill is essence of the swamp

The $900 billion stimulus package COVID-19 “relief” bill is exactly what one would expect from a dysfunctional, tone-deaf Congress

thehill.com

Exhibit A: "Of the funds appropriated under title III of the Act that are made available for assistance for Pakistan, not less than $15,000,000 shall be made available for democracy programs and not less than $10,000,000 shall be made available for gender programs." Yep. $10 million. For gender programs. In Pakistan.

Covid relief bill, to help the poor.... Gender programs in Pakistan? That went to a political supporter somewhere. Someone who supported people in government, got money as a kick back, in a bill supposedly to help the people harmed by covid.

"and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors" Luke 22:25.

Exhibit K: The bill creates a Women's History Museum and an American Latino Museum as part of the Smithsonian. Overall, the Smithsonian gets (checks notes again) $1 billion.

Because we all know that what helps fight Covid, is a Women's history museum, and American Latino museum. Another political kick back to political supporters, in the name of helping people.

"and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors" Luke 22:25.

That's Democrats. We Christian Republicans are not to be like them. We're better than them. We're morally superior to them. And that's not opinion, it's fact.

We can look at the data. Christian charities literally help people move out of poverty, and improve their lives.

Democrats help themselves, while duping their followers.

The Obamas are worth 30 times more than when they entered the White House

Aside from the six-figure pension he receives as a former president, Barack Obama has made millions from speaking engagements and books. Here's how he and his family spend it.

www.afr.com

Obama started with $1 million net worth, and left with $40 Million net worth. He thanks you, for your support.

"and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors" Luke 22:25.

Muslims give far more to charity per capita than Christians. Charity is a sacred obligation in Islam. Its one of the Five Pillars.

That is true, depending on how you read the data. As I said before, you are not what you claim to be. You are what your actions determine you to be.

Jesus said it himself, when he said "Why do you call me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say?" Luke 6:46, and he also said:

"Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'" Matthew 7:23

In short, Jesus is saying, what is true even to this day, that there are many people who claim to be Christian, and are simply not Christians. Just like if I come on here and say I am a Vegan, and then go to a steakhouse and chow down on a porterhouse steak... I'm not a Vegan. Doesn't matter what I say. I might even be a member of the national Vegan society, and have a membership card.... still not a Vegan. You are only a Vegan when you follow the ideology of veganism.

Similarly, you are not a Christian, unless you follow the teachings of Christianity. If you don't help those around you and care for those in need, you are simply not a Christian. This is where "Faith without works, is dead." comes from in James.

Bible Gateway passage: James 2:14-26 - New King James Version

Faith Without Works Is Dead - What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them...

www.biblegateway.com

My point in all that, is that most of the people who claim to be Christian, are simply not Christians.

Further, there is a question about Muslims and charitable giving, because not all charities that are Islamic, are what we would consider charity.

Islamic charities are routinely found to have connections and are involved in funding terrorism for example.

However, there is one irony to this. I don't see people attacking Muslims for being rigid in their enforcement of their beliefs, and they very much are. You must follow their rules.

If a Christian group attempts to enforce their rules, like Muslims do routinely, they are attacked and ridiculed for it.

Elizabeth Warren Attacks Christian Schools for Following Biblical Sexual Morality

'States should focus on funding public schools, not private ones -- especially ones that maintain anti-LGBTQ+ policies,' the Democratic contender claimed.

www.westernjournal.com

So on the one hand, you attack any Christian group that would enforce Christian values, like giving charity, or in this case sexual morality.... but then when you have Christian not give to charity, you complain that they are not following Christian values.

So which is it? Do you want Christians to enforce Christian values, and won't attack us for doing so? Or is Christians having the freedom to not give to charity unlike Muslims, just fine and you have nothing to complain about?

Regardless, this doesn't change my original point, which is that Christians are consistently more charitable than left-wingers and socialists. The Muslims are also more charitable than left-wingers and socialists is also true.

All that means, is that my original point that left-wingers and socialists, and Democrats are the most stingy anti-love, least charitable people is justified by your post and my post, at the same time.

Either way, I am still absolutely correct in my statement.

 

[surada]

As i began to read Marx and Engels, it reminded me of the biblical messages i grew up with

By then, I had spent several years realizing that things were not right in our society. And now I saw there were other ways to organize an economy that reward people for their work and enable them to sustain themselves. Capitalism was doing that for some, but it was leaving a whole bunch of other people to suffer and die. And I learned that these class issues could not be divorced from race and gender

Jesus may come for ya after he's done with the globo homo commie pope
View attachment 434276

Git em Jesus

I do find it funny that Republican Christianity is so different from Biblical Christianity, that you guys have to condemn the pope. If Jesus was alive today, you'd hate that brown Socialist.

Where is the Pope in the Bible?

Secret's out, all religion is bullshit.

Biblical Christianity is not 'republican' or 'democrat', it is simply what it is. It just happens that Democrats stand for nearly everything that is anti-biblical.

Biblical Christianity involves helping the poor.
Republican Christianity is all about helping the rich.

Secret's out, all religion is bullshit.

No, not true. You found where Catholicism has some false doctrine. That's like me finding one single error in one post of yours, and declaring that everything you have ever said in your entire life, is BS.

Is that really the standard you want to promote? Because I can do a search on this forum for every post you have ever made, find one error, and by your own standard you yourself are entirely full of BS. Is that really the standard you want to push?

Biblical Christianity involves helping the poor.
Republican Christianity is all about helping the rich.

Yes, Biblical Christianity involves individuals helping the poor individually. Never supports socialism or social control, or equality. In fact Jesus specifically talked against this for his followers.

Luke 22:25-26
"The kings of the Gentiles lord it over them; and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors. But you are not to be like that."

The rulers sit around saying "I am your benefactor! I'm going to provide free education! I'm going to provide free health care! Free food! Free phones! I provide you with everything! Vote for me!"

But we, Christians are not to be like that.

And we are not. We don't sit around voting for someone else to help the poor, or demand that rich people help the poor, or like all socialists, enact policies to steal from one group to pay for the benefits of another.

We give to the poor ourselves. We help the poor ourselves. We help our fellow citizens ourselves.

Republicans give more to charity, donate more of their own money, and donate more of their own time, to helping the poor than left-wingers or Democrats, and by wide margin.

This is well documented.

Whatever You May Think of Republicans, Don't Call Them 'Stingy' | RealClearMarkets

Republicans are greedy. Theyre out for themselves as evidenced by their reflexive support of tax cuts for the rich. According to New York Times columnist Paul Krugman, the GOP is the...

www.realclearmarkets.com

Every single time they have researched charitable giving, Republicans, and specifically Christian Republicans routinely give vastly more than left-wing Democrats do.

Democrats are more like Judas.

John 12:5-6
"Why wasn't this perfume sold and the money given to the poor? It was worth a year's wages."
He did not say this because he cared about the poor but because he was a thief; as keeper of the money bag, he used to help himself to what was put into it.

And that's what we see with Democrats. They claim to help people, when really they are giving out kick backs to themselves.

Congress’s 5,593-page porky ‘relief’ bill is essence of the swamp

The $900 billion stimulus package COVID-19 “relief” bill is exactly what one would expect from a dysfunctional, tone-deaf Congress

thehill.com

Exhibit A: "Of the funds appropriated under title III of the Act that are made available for assistance for Pakistan, not less than $15,000,000 shall be made available for democracy programs and not less than $10,000,000 shall be made available for gender programs." Yep. $10 million. For gender programs. In Pakistan.

Covid relief bill, to help the poor.... Gender programs in Pakistan? That went to a political supporter somewhere. Someone who supported people in government, got money as a kick back, in a bill supposedly to help the people harmed by covid.

"and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors" Luke 22:25.

Exhibit K: The bill creates a Women's History Museum and an American Latino Museum as part of the Smithsonian. Overall, the Smithsonian gets (checks notes again) $1 billion.

Because we all know that what helps fight Covid, is a Women's history museum, and American Latino museum. Another political kick back to political supporters, in the name of helping people.

"and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors" Luke 22:25.

That's Democrats. We Christian Republicans are not to be like them. We're better than them. We're morally superior to them. And that's not opinion, it's fact.

We can look at the data. Christian charities literally help people move out of poverty, and improve their lives.

Democrats help themselves, while duping their followers.

The Obamas are worth 30 times more than when they entered the White House

Aside from the six-figure pension he receives as a former president, Barack Obama has made millions from speaking engagements and books. Here's how he and his family spend it.

www.afr.com

Obama started with $1 million net worth, and left with $40 Million net worth. He thanks you, for your support.

"and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors" Luke 22:25.

Muslims give far more to charity per capita than Christians. Charity is a sacred obligation in Islam. Its one of the Five Pillars.

That is true, depending on how you read the data. As I said before, you are not what you claim to be. You are what your actions determine you to be.

Jesus said it himself, when he said "Why do you call me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say?" Luke 6:46, and he also said:

"Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'" Matthew 7:23

In short, Jesus is saying, what is true even to this day, that there are many people who claim to be Christian, and are simply not Christians. Just like if I come on here and say I am a Vegan, and then go to a steakhouse and chow down on a porterhouse steak... I'm not a Vegan. Doesn't matter what I say. I might even be a member of the national Vegan society, and have a membership card.... still not a Vegan. You are only a Vegan when you follow the ideology of veganism.

Similarly, you are not a Christian, unless you follow the teachings of Christianity. If you don't help those around you and care for those in need, you are simply not a Christian. This is where "Faith without works, is dead." comes from in James.

Bible Gateway passage: James 2:14-26 - New King James Version

Faith Without Works Is Dead - What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them...

www.biblegateway.com

My point in all that, is that most of the people who claim to be Christian, are simply not Christians.

Further, there is a question about Muslims and charitable giving, because not all charities that are Islamic, are what we would consider charity.

Islamic charities are routinely found to have connections and are involved in funding terrorism for example.

However, there is one irony to this. I don't see people attacking Muslims for being rigid in their enforcement of their beliefs, and they very much are. You must follow their rules.

If a Christian group attempts to enforce their rules, like Muslims do routinely, they are attacked and ridiculed for it.

Elizabeth Warren Attacks Christian Schools for Following Biblical Sexual Morality

'States should focus on funding public schools, not private ones -- especially ones that maintain anti-LGBTQ+ policies,' the Democratic contender claimed.

www.westernjournal.com

So on the one hand, you attack any Christian group that would enforce Christian values, like giving charity, or in this case sexual morality.... but then when you have Christian not give to charity, you complain that they are not following Christian values.

So which is it? Do you want Christians to enforce Christian values, and won't attack us for doing so? Or is Christians having the freedom to not give to charity unlike Muslims, just fine and you have nothing to complain about?

Regardless, this doesn't change my original point, which is that Christians are consistently more charitable than left-wingers and socialists. The Muslims are also more charitable than left-wingers and socialists is also true.

All that means, is that my original point that left-wingers and socialists, and Democrats are the most stingy anti-love, least charitable people is justified by your post and my post, at the same time.

Either way, I am still absolutely correct in my statement.

Luke never met Jesus and probably never spent any time in Palestine.. His knowledge of the geography is terrible and full of errors.

Islamic charities cleaned up the loopholes that allowed funding of terrorism nearly 20 years ago.

Not all Christians are ignorant .. nor are they all literalists.

 

[Andylusion]

As i began to read Marx and Engels, it reminded me of the biblical messages i grew up with

By then, I had spent several years realizing that things were not right in our society. And now I saw there were other ways to organize an economy that reward people for their work and enable them to sustain themselves. Capitalism was doing that for some, but it was leaving a whole bunch of other people to suffer and die. And I learned that these class issues could not be divorced from race and gender

Jesus may come for ya after he's done with the globo homo commie pope
View attachment 434276

Git em Jesus

I do find it funny that Republican Christianity is so different from Biblical Christianity, that you guys have to condemn the pope. If Jesus was alive today, you'd hate that brown Socialist.

Where is the Pope in the Bible?

Secret's out, all religion is bullshit.

Biblical Christianity is not 'republican' or 'democrat', it is simply what it is. It just happens that Democrats stand for nearly everything that is anti-biblical.

Biblical Christianity involves helping the poor.
Republican Christianity is all about helping the rich.

Secret's out, all religion is bullshit.

No, not true. You found where Catholicism has some false doctrine. That's like me finding one single error in one post of yours, and declaring that everything you have ever said in your entire life, is BS.

Is that really the standard you want to promote? Because I can do a search on this forum for every post you have ever made, find one error, and by your own standard you yourself are entirely full of BS. Is that really the standard you want to push?

Biblical Christianity involves helping the poor.
Republican Christianity is all about helping the rich.

Yes, Biblical Christianity involves individuals helping the poor individually. Never supports socialism or social control, or equality. In fact Jesus specifically talked against this for his followers.

Luke 22:25-26
"The kings of the Gentiles lord it over them; and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors. But you are not to be like that."

The rulers sit around saying "I am your benefactor! I'm going to provide free education! I'm going to provide free health care! Free food! Free phones! I provide you with everything! Vote for me!"

But we, Christians are not to be like that.

And we are not. We don't sit around voting for someone else to help the poor, or demand that rich people help the poor, or like all socialists, enact policies to steal from one group to pay for the benefits of another.

We give to the poor ourselves. We help the poor ourselves. We help our fellow citizens ourselves.

Republicans give more to charity, donate more of their own money, and donate more of their own time, to helping the poor than left-wingers or Democrats, and by wide margin.

This is well documented.

Whatever You May Think of Republicans, Don't Call Them 'Stingy' | RealClearMarkets

Republicans are greedy. Theyre out for themselves as evidenced by their reflexive support of tax cuts for the rich. According to New York Times columnist Paul Krugman, the GOP is the...

www.realclearmarkets.com

Every single time they have researched charitable giving, Republicans, and specifically Christian Republicans routinely give vastly more than left-wing Democrats do.

Democrats are more like Judas.

John 12:5-6
"Why wasn't this perfume sold and the money given to the poor? It was worth a year's wages."
He did not say this because he cared about the poor but because he was a thief; as keeper of the money bag, he used to help himself to what was put into it.

And that's what we see with Democrats. They claim to help people, when really they are giving out kick backs to themselves.

Congress’s 5,593-page porky ‘relief’ bill is essence of the swamp

The $900 billion stimulus package COVID-19 “relief” bill is exactly what one would expect from a dysfunctional, tone-deaf Congress

thehill.com

Exhibit A: "Of the funds appropriated under title III of the Act that are made available for assistance for Pakistan, not less than $15,000,000 shall be made available for democracy programs and not less than $10,000,000 shall be made available for gender programs." Yep. $10 million. For gender programs. In Pakistan.

Covid relief bill, to help the poor.... Gender programs in Pakistan? That went to a political supporter somewhere. Someone who supported people in government, got money as a kick back, in a bill supposedly to help the people harmed by covid.

"and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors" Luke 22:25.

Exhibit K: The bill creates a Women's History Museum and an American Latino Museum as part of the Smithsonian. Overall, the Smithsonian gets (checks notes again) $1 billion.

Because we all know that what helps fight Covid, is a Women's history museum, and American Latino museum. Another political kick back to political supporters, in the name of helping people.

"and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors" Luke 22:25.

That's Democrats. We Christian Republicans are not to be like them. We're better than them. We're morally superior to them. And that's not opinion, it's fact.

We can look at the data. Christian charities literally help people move out of poverty, and improve their lives.

Democrats help themselves, while duping their followers.

The Obamas are worth 30 times more than when they entered the White House

Aside from the six-figure pension he receives as a former president, Barack Obama has made millions from speaking engagements and books. Here's how he and his family spend it.

www.afr.com

Obama started with $1 million net worth, and left with $40 Million net worth. He thanks you, for your support.

"and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors" Luke 22:25.

Muslims give far more to charity per capita than Christians. Charity is a sacred obligation in Islam. Its one of the Five Pillars.

That is true, depending on how you read the data. As I said before, you are not what you claim to be. You are what your actions determine you to be.

Jesus said it himself, when he said "Why do you call me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say?" Luke 6:46, and he also said:

"Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'" Matthew 7:23

In short, Jesus is saying, what is true even to this day, that there are many people who claim to be Christian, and are simply not Christians. Just like if I come on here and say I am a Vegan, and then go to a steakhouse and chow down on a porterhouse steak... I'm not a Vegan. Doesn't matter what I say. I might even be a member of the national Vegan society, and have a membership card.... still not a Vegan. You are only a Vegan when you follow the ideology of veganism.

Similarly, you are not a Christian, unless you follow the teachings of Christianity. If you don't help those around you and care for those in need, you are simply not a Christian. This is where "Faith without works, is dead." comes from in James.

Bible Gateway passage: James 2:14-26 - New King James Version

Faith Without Works Is Dead - What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them...

www.biblegateway.com

My point in all that, is that most of the people who claim to be Christian, are simply not Christians.

Further, there is a question about Muslims and charitable giving, because not all charities that are Islamic, are what we would consider charity.

Islamic charities are routinely found to have connections and are involved in funding terrorism for example.

However, there is one irony to this. I don't see people attacking Muslims for being rigid in their enforcement of their beliefs, and they very much are. You must follow their rules.

If a Christian group attempts to enforce their rules, like Muslims do routinely, they are attacked and ridiculed for it.

Elizabeth Warren Attacks Christian Schools for Following Biblical Sexual Morality

'States should focus on funding public schools, not private ones -- especially ones that maintain anti-LGBTQ+ policies,' the Democratic contender claimed.

www.westernjournal.com

So on the one hand, you attack any Christian group that would enforce Christian values, like giving charity, or in this case sexual morality.... but then when you have Christian not give to charity, you complain that they are not following Christian values.

So which is it? Do you want Christians to enforce Christian values, and won't attack us for doing so? Or is Christians having the freedom to not give to charity unlike Muslims, just fine and you have nothing to complain about?

Regardless, this doesn't change my original point, which is that Christians are consistently more charitable than left-wingers and socialists. The Muslims are also more charitable than left-wingers and socialists is also true.

All that means, is that my original point that left-wingers and socialists, and Democrats are the most stingy anti-love, least charitable people is justified by your post and my post, at the same time.

Either way, I am still absolutely correct in my statement.

Luke never met Jesus and probably never spent any time in Palestine.. His knowledge of the geography is terrible and full of errors.

Islamic charities cleaned up the loopholes that allowed funding of terrorism nearly 20 years ago.

Not all Christians are ignorant .. nor are they all literalists.

France dissolves Muslim charity BarakaCity

Head of charity denies accusations, seeks asylum in Turkey - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

That was barely 3 months ago. No, they didn't clean up the loopholes. Muslim charities are routinely involved in terrorist groups, to this day.

Not all Christians are ignorant .. nor are they all literalists.

Are you saying literalists are bad? If so, are you suggesting that Muslim are not literal in their interpretations of Islam? Want me to post some videos from Imams talking about the Qur'an, or can we move on?

 

[Andylusion]

As i began to read Marx and Engels, it reminded me of the biblical messages i grew up with

By then, I had spent several years realizing that things were not right in our society. And now I saw there were other ways to organize an economy that reward people for their work and enable them to sustain themselves. Capitalism was doing that for some, but it was leaving a whole bunch of other people to suffer and die. And I learned that these class issues could not be divorced from race and gender

Well, Marx and Engles didn't invent socialism.

That said, most of the post-columbian communitarian societies in the Americas (Paraguay, Plymoth, New Harmony Indiana, etc) were based on the Christian religion.

.

And they didn't work, did they? Based on Christianity? I don't think so.

 

[surada]

As i began to read Marx and Engels, it reminded me of the biblical messages i grew up with

By then, I had spent several years realizing that things were not right in our society. And now I saw there were other ways to organize an economy that reward people for their work and enable them to sustain themselves. Capitalism was doing that for some, but it was leaving a whole bunch of other people to suffer and die. And I learned that these class issues could not be divorced from race and gender

Jesus may come for ya after he's done with the globo homo commie pope
View attachment 434276

Git em Jesus

I do find it funny that Republican Christianity is so different from Biblical Christianity, that you guys have to condemn the pope. If Jesus was alive today, you'd hate that brown Socialist.

Where is the Pope in the Bible?

Secret's out, all religion is bullshit.

Biblical Christianity is not 'republican' or 'democrat', it is simply what it is. It just happens that Democrats stand for nearly everything that is anti-biblical.

Biblical Christianity involves helping the poor.
Republican Christianity is all about helping the rich.

Secret's out, all religion is bullshit.

No, not true. You found where Catholicism has some false doctrine. That's like me finding one single error in one post of yours, and declaring that everything you have ever said in your entire life, is BS.

Is that really the standard you want to promote? Because I can do a search on this forum for every post you have ever made, find one error, and by your own standard you yourself are entirely full of BS. Is that really the standard you want to push?

Biblical Christianity involves helping the poor.
Republican Christianity is all about helping the rich.

Yes, Biblical Christianity involves individuals helping the poor individually. Never supports socialism or social control, or equality. In fact Jesus specifically talked against this for his followers.

Luke 22:25-26
"The kings of the Gentiles lord it over them; and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors. But you are not to be like that."

The rulers sit around saying "I am your benefactor! I'm going to provide free education! I'm going to provide free health care! Free food! Free phones! I provide you with everything! Vote for me!"

But we, Christians are not to be like that.

And we are not. We don't sit around voting for someone else to help the poor, or demand that rich people help the poor, or like all socialists, enact policies to steal from one group to pay for the benefits of another.

We give to the poor ourselves. We help the poor ourselves. We help our fellow citizens ourselves.

Republicans give more to charity, donate more of their own money, and donate more of their own time, to helping the poor than left-wingers or Democrats, and by wide margin.

This is well documented.

Whatever You May Think of Republicans, Don't Call Them 'Stingy' | RealClearMarkets

Republicans are greedy. Theyre out for themselves as evidenced by their reflexive support of tax cuts for the rich. According to New York Times columnist Paul Krugman, the GOP is the...

www.realclearmarkets.com

Every single time they have researched charitable giving, Republicans, and specifically Christian Republicans routinely give vastly more than left-wing Democrats do.

Democrats are more like Judas.

John 12:5-6
"Why wasn't this perfume sold and the money given to the poor? It was worth a year's wages."
He did not say this because he cared about the poor but because he was a thief; as keeper of the money bag, he used to help himself to what was put into it.

And that's what we see with Democrats. They claim to help people, when really they are giving out kick backs to themselves.

Congress’s 5,593-page porky ‘relief’ bill is essence of the swamp

The $900 billion stimulus package COVID-19 “relief” bill is exactly what one would expect from a dysfunctional, tone-deaf Congress

thehill.com

Exhibit A: "Of the funds appropriated under title III of the Act that are made available for assistance for Pakistan, not less than $15,000,000 shall be made available for democracy programs and not less than $10,000,000 shall be made available for gender programs." Yep. $10 million. For gender programs. In Pakistan.

Covid relief bill, to help the poor.... Gender programs in Pakistan? That went to a political supporter somewhere. Someone who supported people in government, got money as a kick back, in a bill supposedly to help the people harmed by covid.

"and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors" Luke 22:25.

Exhibit K: The bill creates a Women's History Museum and an American Latino Museum as part of the Smithsonian. Overall, the Smithsonian gets (checks notes again) $1 billion.

Because we all know that what helps fight Covid, is a Women's history museum, and American Latino museum. Another political kick back to political supporters, in the name of helping people.

"and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors" Luke 22:25.

That's Democrats. We Christian Republicans are not to be like them. We're better than them. We're morally superior to them. And that's not opinion, it's fact.

We can look at the data. Christian charities literally help people move out of poverty, and improve their lives.

Democrats help themselves, while duping their followers.

The Obamas are worth 30 times more than when they entered the White House

Aside from the six-figure pension he receives as a former president, Barack Obama has made millions from speaking engagements and books. Here's how he and his family spend it.

www.afr.com

Obama started with $1 million net worth, and left with $40 Million net worth. He thanks you, for your support.

"and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors" Luke 22:25.

Muslims give far more to charity per capita than Christians. Charity is a sacred obligation in Islam. Its one of the Five Pillars.

That is true, depending on how you read the data. As I said before, you are not what you claim to be. You are what your actions determine you to be.

Jesus said it himself, when he said "Why do you call me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say?" Luke 6:46, and he also said:

"Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'" Matthew 7:23

In short, Jesus is saying, what is true even to this day, that there are many people who claim to be Christian, and are simply not Christians. Just like if I come on here and say I am a Vegan, and then go to a steakhouse and chow down on a porterhouse steak... I'm not a Vegan. Doesn't matter what I say. I might even be a member of the national Vegan society, and have a membership card.... still not a Vegan. You are only a Vegan when you follow the ideology of veganism.

Similarly, you are not a Christian, unless you follow the teachings of Christianity. If you don't help those around you and care for those in need, you are simply not a Christian. This is where "Faith without works, is dead." comes from in James.

Bible Gateway passage: James 2:14-26 - New King James Version

Faith Without Works Is Dead - What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them...

www.biblegateway.com

My point in all that, is that most of the people who claim to be Christian, are simply not Christians.

Further, there is a question about Muslims and charitable giving, because not all charities that are Islamic, are what we would consider charity.

Islamic charities are routinely found to have connections and are involved in funding terrorism for example.

However, there is one irony to this. I don't see people attacking Muslims for being rigid in their enforcement of their beliefs, and they very much are. You must follow their rules.

If a Christian group attempts to enforce their rules, like Muslims do routinely, they are attacked and ridiculed for it.

Elizabeth Warren Attacks Christian Schools for Following Biblical Sexual Morality

'States should focus on funding public schools, not private ones -- especially ones that maintain anti-LGBTQ+ policies,' the Democratic contender claimed.

www.westernjournal.com

So on the one hand, you attack any Christian group that would enforce Christian values, like giving charity, or in this case sexual morality.... but then when you have Christian not give to charity, you complain that they are not following Christian values.

So which is it? Do you want Christians to enforce Christian values, and won't attack us for doing so? Or is Christians having the freedom to not give to charity unlike Muslims, just fine and you have nothing to complain about?

Regardless, this doesn't change my original point, which is that Christians are consistently more charitable than left-wingers and socialists. The Muslims are also more charitable than left-wingers and socialists is also true.

All that means, is that my original point that left-wingers and socialists, and Democrats are the most stingy anti-love, least charitable people is justified by your post and my post, at the same time.

Either way, I am still absolutely correct in my statement.

Luke never met Jesus and probably never spent any time in Palestine.. His knowledge of the geography is terrible and full of errors.

Islamic charities cleaned up the loopholes that allowed funding of terrorism nearly 20 years ago.

Not all Christians are ignorant .. nor are they all literalists.

France dissolves Muslim charity BarakaCity

Head of charity denies accusations, seeks asylum in Turkey - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

That was barely 3 months ago. No, they didn't clean up the loopholes. Muslim charities are routinely involved in terrorist groups, to this day.

Not all Christians are ignorant .. nor are they all literalists.

Are you saying literalists are bad? If so, are you suggesting that Muslim are not literal in their interpretations of Islam? Want me to post some videos from Imams talking about the Qur'an, or can we move on?

What does some Muslims being literalists have to do with fundies and Dominionists or Dispensationist in Christianity?

Literalists? I think they are poorly educated and reject serious scholarship in favor of charlatans like Cyrus Scofield or Hal Lindsey or Copeland or Hagee.

You speak Arabic? Preventing money from going to terrorists is a prime goal in most Muslim countries and well controlled because the terrorists kill Muslims.. France evidently hasn't been successful in dealing with phony charities and radicalized idiots.

Most of the Arab world doesn't want another Caliphate because the last one was such a dud and caused stagnation of their culture.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

American evangelical attitudes to Christianity seem to be bound up completely in protecting the money in their own pockets. Virtually every post on here relates to taxation and the fairness of it.

Its a strange cult.

 

[surada]

American evangelical attitudes to Christianity seem to be bound up completely in protecting the money in their own pockets. Virtually every post on here relates to taxation and the fairness of it.

Its a strange cult.

Some talk in tongues. In general they reject education.. particularly science, geology, archaeology... and they have a real screwy, futuristic interpretation of Revelation.

 

[Andylusion]

As i began to read Marx and Engels, it reminded me of the biblical messages i grew up with

By then, I had spent several years realizing that things were not right in our society. And now I saw there were other ways to organize an economy that reward people for their work and enable them to sustain themselves. Capitalism was doing that for some, but it was leaving a whole bunch of other people to suffer and die. And I learned that these class issues could not be divorced from race and gender

Jesus may come for ya after he's done with the globo homo commie pope
View attachment 434276

Git em Jesus

I do find it funny that Republican Christianity is so different from Biblical Christianity, that you guys have to condemn the pope. If Jesus was alive today, you'd hate that brown Socialist.

Where is the Pope in the Bible?

Secret's out, all religion is bullshit.

Biblical Christianity is not 'republican' or 'democrat', it is simply what it is. It just happens that Democrats stand for nearly everything that is anti-biblical.

Biblical Christianity involves helping the poor.
Republican Christianity is all about helping the rich.

Secret's out, all religion is bullshit.

No, not true. You found where Catholicism has some false doctrine. That's like me finding one single error in one post of yours, and declaring that everything you have ever said in your entire life, is BS.

Is that really the standard you want to promote? Because I can do a search on this forum for every post you have ever made, find one error, and by your own standard you yourself are entirely full of BS. Is that really the standard you want to push?

Biblical Christianity involves helping the poor.
Republican Christianity is all about helping the rich.

Yes, Biblical Christianity involves individuals helping the poor individually. Never supports socialism or social control, or equality. In fact Jesus specifically talked against this for his followers.

Luke 22:25-26
"The kings of the Gentiles lord it over them; and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors. But you are not to be like that."

The rulers sit around saying "I am your benefactor! I'm going to provide free education! I'm going to provide free health care! Free food! Free phones! I provide you with everything! Vote for me!"

But we, Christians are not to be like that.

And we are not. We don't sit around voting for someone else to help the poor, or demand that rich people help the poor, or like all socialists, enact policies to steal from one group to pay for the benefits of another.

We give to the poor ourselves. We help the poor ourselves. We help our fellow citizens ourselves.

Republicans give more to charity, donate more of their own money, and donate more of their own time, to helping the poor than left-wingers or Democrats, and by wide margin.

This is well documented.

Whatever You May Think of Republicans, Don't Call Them 'Stingy' | RealClearMarkets

Republicans are greedy. Theyre out for themselves as evidenced by their reflexive support of tax cuts for the rich. According to New York Times columnist Paul Krugman, the GOP is the...

www.realclearmarkets.com

Every single time they have researched charitable giving, Republicans, and specifically Christian Republicans routinely give vastly more than left-wing Democrats do.

Democrats are more like Judas.

John 12:5-6
"Why wasn't this perfume sold and the money given to the poor? It was worth a year's wages."
He did not say this because he cared about the poor but because he was a thief; as keeper of the money bag, he used to help himself to what was put into it.

And that's what we see with Democrats. They claim to help people, when really they are giving out kick backs to themselves.

Congress’s 5,593-page porky ‘relief’ bill is essence of the swamp

The $900 billion stimulus package COVID-19 “relief” bill is exactly what one would expect from a dysfunctional, tone-deaf Congress

thehill.com

Exhibit A: "Of the funds appropriated under title III of the Act that are made available for assistance for Pakistan, not less than $15,000,000 shall be made available for democracy programs and not less than $10,000,000 shall be made available for gender programs." Yep. $10 million. For gender programs. In Pakistan.

Covid relief bill, to help the poor.... Gender programs in Pakistan? That went to a political supporter somewhere. Someone who supported people in government, got money as a kick back, in a bill supposedly to help the people harmed by covid.

"and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors" Luke 22:25.

Exhibit K: The bill creates a Women's History Museum and an American Latino Museum as part of the Smithsonian. Overall, the Smithsonian gets (checks notes again) $1 billion.

Because we all know that what helps fight Covid, is a Women's history museum, and American Latino museum. Another political kick back to political supporters, in the name of helping people.

"and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors" Luke 22:25.

That's Democrats. We Christian Republicans are not to be like them. We're better than them. We're morally superior to them. And that's not opinion, it's fact.

We can look at the data. Christian charities literally help people move out of poverty, and improve their lives.

Democrats help themselves, while duping their followers.

The Obamas are worth 30 times more than when they entered the White House

Aside from the six-figure pension he receives as a former president, Barack Obama has made millions from speaking engagements and books. Here's how he and his family spend it.

www.afr.com

Obama started with $1 million net worth, and left with $40 Million net worth. He thanks you, for your support.

"and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors" Luke 22:25.

Muslims give far more to charity per capita than Christians. Charity is a sacred obligation in Islam. Its one of the Five Pillars.

That is true, depending on how you read the data. As I said before, you are not what you claim to be. You are what your actions determine you to be.

Jesus said it himself, when he said "Why do you call me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say?" Luke 6:46, and he also said:

"Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'" Matthew 7:23

In short, Jesus is saying, what is true even to this day, that there are many people who claim to be Christian, and are simply not Christians. Just like if I come on here and say I am a Vegan, and then go to a steakhouse and chow down on a porterhouse steak... I'm not a Vegan. Doesn't matter what I say. I might even be a member of the national Vegan society, and have a membership card.... still not a Vegan. You are only a Vegan when you follow the ideology of veganism.

Similarly, you are not a Christian, unless you follow the teachings of Christianity. If you don't help those around you and care for those in need, you are simply not a Christian. This is where "Faith without works, is dead." comes from in James.

Bible Gateway passage: James 2:14-26 - New King James Version

Faith Without Works Is Dead - What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them...

www.biblegateway.com

My point in all that, is that most of the people who claim to be Christian, are simply not Christians.

Further, there is a question about Muslims and charitable giving, because not all charities that are Islamic, are what we would consider charity.

Islamic charities are routinely found to have connections and are involved in funding terrorism for example.

However, there is one irony to this. I don't see people attacking Muslims for being rigid in their enforcement of their beliefs, and they very much are. You must follow their rules.

If a Christian group attempts to enforce their rules, like Muslims do routinely, they are attacked and ridiculed for it.

Elizabeth Warren Attacks Christian Schools for Following Biblical Sexual Morality

'States should focus on funding public schools, not private ones -- especially ones that maintain anti-LGBTQ+ policies,' the Democratic contender claimed.

www.westernjournal.com

So on the one hand, you attack any Christian group that would enforce Christian values, like giving charity, or in this case sexual morality.... but then when you have Christian not give to charity, you complain that they are not following Christian values.

So which is it? Do you want Christians to enforce Christian values, and won't attack us for doing so? Or is Christians having the freedom to not give to charity unlike Muslims, just fine and you have nothing to complain about?

Regardless, this doesn't change my original point, which is that Christians are consistently more charitable than left-wingers and socialists. The Muslims are also more charitable than left-wingers and socialists is also true.

All that means, is that my original point that left-wingers and socialists, and Democrats are the most stingy anti-love, least charitable people is justified by your post and my post, at the same time.

Either way, I am still absolutely correct in my statement.

Luke never met Jesus and probably never spent any time in Palestine.. His knowledge of the geography is terrible and full of errors.

Islamic charities cleaned up the loopholes that allowed funding of terrorism nearly 20 years ago.

Not all Christians are ignorant .. nor are they all literalists.

France dissolves Muslim charity BarakaCity

Head of charity denies accusations, seeks asylum in Turkey - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

That was barely 3 months ago. No, they didn't clean up the loopholes. Muslim charities are routinely involved in terrorist groups, to this day.

Not all Christians are ignorant .. nor are they all literalists.

Are you saying literalists are bad? If so, are you suggesting that Muslim are not literal in their interpretations of Islam? Want me to post some videos from Imams talking about the Qur'an, or can we move on?

What does some Muslims being literalists have to do with fundies and Dominionists or Dispensationist in Christianity?

Literalists? I think they are poorly educated and reject serious scholarship in favor of charlatans like Cyrus Scofield or Hal Lindsey or Copeland or Hagee.

You speak Arabic? Preventing money from going to terrorists is a prime goal in most Muslim countries and well controlled because the terrorists kill Muslims.. France evidently hasn't been successful in dealing with phony charities and radicalized idiots.

Most of the Arab world doesn't want another Caliphate because the last one was such a dud and caused stagnation of their culture.

What does some Muslims being literalists have to do with fundies and Dominionists or Dispensationist in Christianity?

You implied in that post, as this one with the word "fundies" that these are bad things.

Muslims are both, literal and fundamentalists. Is that bad? If so, why were you posting that Muslims give more to charity, as if it was good?

You can't have it both ways. You can't say Fundamentalism is bad for Christians, but good for Muslims.

Most of the Arab world doesn't want another Caliphate because the last one was such a dud and caused stagnation of their culture.

What the Arab world wants, is not relevant. The word Islam itself, means submission to the will of god. That means that if god wants a Caliphate, then a Caliphate must happen, and a good muslim will fall into the ranks.

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Some leading scholars of Islam, like Hujjat al-Islam al-Ghazali, have considered the caliphate an obligation regardless of its efficacy, like a religious ritual, thus separating it from its political functionality or utility. Others, like Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyya and Imam al-Haramayn al-Juwayni, have emphasized its rational nature.​

https://yaqeeninstitute.org/ovamiranjum/who-wants-the-caliphate

To most of the Islamic world, a Caliphate is simply a requirement that must happen at some point.

You speak Arabic? Preventing money from going to terrorists is a prime goal in most Muslim countries and well controlled because the terrorists kill Muslims.. France evidently hasn't been successful in dealing with phony charities and radicalized idiots.

Investigation Exposes Terror Ties Behind Islamist Charity's Humanitarian Facade

A prominent American Islamist charity is publicizing its role in the nationwide coronavirus emergency response effort. "Zakat Foundation of America stepped up its nationwide coronavirus emergency response ... delivering thousands of direly needed

www.meforum.org

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But behind the Zakat Foundation's outward humanitarian façade lie longstanding terror ties that include support for Hamas- and al-Qaida-tied charities, a joint investigation by the Investigative Project of Terrorism and the Middle East Forum finds.​

That was last April. Need me to keep going? I can keep listing them over and over for a dozens posts if you want.

Literalists? I think they are poorly educated and reject serious scholarship in favor of charlatans like Cyrus Scofield or Hal Lindsey or Copeland or Hagee.

The point is that you are pushing a double standard by implying one literalist is good, and another is bad.