the Biblical Basis for Socialism Is Undeniable, my friends

As i began to read Marx and Engels, it reminded me of the biblical messages i grew up with

By then, I had spent several years realizing that things were not right in our society. And now I saw there were other ways to organize an economy that reward people for their work and enable them to sustain themselves. Capitalism was doing that for some, but it was leaving a whole bunch of other people to suffer and die. And I learned that these class issues could not be divorced from race and gender
Jesus may come for ya after he's done with the globo homo commie pope
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Git em Jesus

I do find it funny that Republican Christianity is so different from Biblical Christianity, that you guys have to condemn the pope. If Jesus was alive today, you'd hate that brown Socialist.

Where is the Pope in the Bible?

Secret's out, all religion is bullshit.

Biblical Christianity is not 'republican' or 'democrat', it is simply what it is. It just happens that Democrats stand for nearly everything that is anti-biblical.

Biblical Christianity involves helping the poor.
Republican Christianity is all about helping the rich.

Secret's out, all religion is bullshit.

No, not true. You found where Catholicism has some false doctrine. That's like me finding one single error in one post of yours, and declaring that everything you have ever said in your entire life, is BS.

Is that really the standard you want to promote? Because I can do a search on this forum for every post you have ever made, find one error, and by your own standard you yourself are entirely full of BS. Is that really the standard you want to push?

Biblical Christianity involves helping the poor.
Republican Christianity is all about helping the rich.


Yes, Biblical Christianity involves individuals helping the poor individually. Never supports socialism or social control, or equality. In fact Jesus specifically talked against this for his followers.

Luke 22:25-26
"The kings of the Gentiles lord it over them; and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors. But you are not to be like that."

The rulers sit around saying "I am your benefactor! I'm going to provide free education! I'm going to provide free health care! Free food! Free phones! I provide you with everything! Vote for me!"

But we, Christians are not to be like that.

And we are not. We don't sit around voting for someone else to help the poor, or demand that rich people help the poor, or like all socialists, enact policies to steal from one group to pay for the benefits of another.

We give to the poor ourselves. We help the poor ourselves. We help our fellow citizens ourselves.

Republicans give more to charity, donate more of their own money, and donate more of their own time, to helping the poor than left-wingers or Democrats, and by wide margin.

This is well documented.


Every single time they have researched charitable giving, Republicans, and specifically Christian Republicans routinely give vastly more than left-wing Democrats do.

Democrats are more like Judas.

John 12:5-6
"Why wasn't this perfume sold and the money given to the poor? It was worth a year's wages."
He did not say this because he cared about the poor but because he was a thief; as keeper of the money bag, he used to help himself to what was put into it.

And that's what we see with Democrats. They claim to help people, when really they are giving out kick backs to themselves.


Exhibit A: "Of the funds appropriated under title III of the Act that are made available for assistance for Pakistan, not less than $15,000,000 shall be made available for democracy programs and not less than $10,000,000 shall be made available for gender programs." Yep. $10 million. For gender programs. In Pakistan.

Covid relief bill, to help the poor.... Gender programs in Pakistan? That went to a political supporter somewhere. Someone who supported people in government, got money as a kick back, in a bill supposedly to help the people harmed by covid.

"and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors" Luke 22:25.

Exhibit K: The bill creates a Women's History Museum and an American Latino Museum as part of the Smithsonian. Overall, the Smithsonian gets (checks notes again) $1 billion.

Because we all know that what helps fight Covid, is a Women's history museum, and American Latino museum. Another political kick back to political supporters, in the name of helping people.

"and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors" Luke 22:25.

That's Democrats. We Christian Republicans are not to be like them. We're better than them. We're morally superior to them. And that's not opinion, it's fact.

We can look at the data. Christian charities literally help people move out of poverty, and improve their lives.

Democrats help themselves, while duping their followers.


Obama started with $1 million net worth, and left with $40 Million net worth. He thanks you, for your support.

"and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors" Luke 22:25.

Muslims give far more to charity per capita than Christians. Charity is a sacred obligation in Islam. Its one of the Five Pillars.

That is true, depending on how you read the data. As I said before, you are not what you claim to be. You are what your actions determine you to be.

Jesus said it himself, when he said "Why do you call me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say?" Luke 6:46, and he also said:

"Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'" Matthew 7:23

In short, Jesus is saying, what is true even to this day, that there are many people who claim to be Christian, and are simply not Christians. Just like if I come on here and say I am a Vegan, and then go to a steakhouse and chow down on a porterhouse steak... I'm not a Vegan. Doesn't matter what I say. I might even be a member of the national Vegan society, and have a membership card.... still not a Vegan. You are only a Vegan when you follow the ideology of veganism.

Similarly, you are not a Christian, unless you follow the teachings of Christianity. If you don't help those around you and care for those in need, you are simply not a Christian. This is where "Faith without works, is dead." comes from in James.

My point in all that, is that most of the people who claim to be Christian, are simply not Christians.

Further, there is a question about Muslims and charitable giving, because not all charities that are Islamic, are what we would consider charity.

Islamic charities are routinely found to have connections and are involved in funding terrorism for example.

However, there is one irony to this. I don't see people attacking Muslims for being rigid in their enforcement of their beliefs, and they very much are. You must follow their rules.

If a Christian group attempts to enforce their rules, like Muslims do routinely, they are attacked and ridiculed for it.


So on the one hand, you attack any Christian group that would enforce Christian values, like giving charity, or in this case sexual morality.... but then when you have Christian not give to charity, you complain that they are not following Christian values.

So which is it? Do you want Christians to enforce Christian values, and won't attack us for doing so? Or is Christians having the freedom to not give to charity unlike Muslims, just fine and you have nothing to complain about?

Regardless, this doesn't change my original point, which is that Christians are consistently more charitable than left-wingers and socialists. The Muslims are also more charitable than left-wingers and socialists is also true.

All that means, is that my original point that left-wingers and socialists, and Democrats are the most stingy anti-love, least charitable people is justified by your post and my post, at the same time.

Either way, I am still absolutely correct in my statement.

Luke never met Jesus and probably never spent any time in Palestine.. His knowledge of the geography is terrible and full of errors.

Islamic charities cleaned up the loopholes that allowed funding of terrorism nearly 20 years ago.

Not all Christians are ignorant .. nor are they all literalists.


That was barely 3 months ago. No, they didn't clean up the loopholes. Muslim charities are routinely involved in terrorist groups, to this day.

Not all Christians are ignorant .. nor are they all literalists.

Are you saying literalists are bad? If so, are you suggesting that Muslim are not literal in their interpretations of Islam? Want me to post some videos from Imams talking about the Qur'an, or can we move on?

What does some Muslims being literalists have to do with fundies and Dominionists or Dispensationist in Christianity?

Literalists? I think they are poorly educated and reject serious scholarship in favor of charlatans like Cyrus Scofield or Hal Lindsey or Copeland or Hagee.

You speak Arabic? Preventing money from going to terrorists is a prime goal in most Muslim countries and well controlled because the terrorists kill Muslims.. France evidently hasn't been successful in dealing with phony charities and radicalized idiots.

Most of the Arab world doesn't want another Caliphate because the last one was such a dud and caused stagnation of their culture.

What does some Muslims being literalists have to do with fundies and Dominionists or Dispensationist in Christianity?

You implied in that post, as this one with the word "fundies" that these are bad things.

Muslims are both, literal and fundamentalists. Is that bad? If so, why were you posting that Muslims give more to charity, as if it was good?

You can't have it both ways. You can't say Fundamentalism is bad for Christians, but good for Muslims.

Most of the Arab world doesn't want another Caliphate because the last one was such a dud and caused stagnation of their culture.

What the Arab world wants, is not relevant. The word Islam itself, means submission to the will of god. That means that if god wants a Caliphate, then a Caliphate must happen, and a good muslim will fall into the ranks.
Some leading scholars of Islam, like Hujjat al-Islam al-Ghazali, have considered the caliphate an obligation regardless of its efficacy, like a religious ritual, thus separating it from its political functionality or utility. Others, like Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyya and Imam al-Haramayn al-Juwayni, have emphasized its rational nature.​


To most of the Islamic world, a Caliphate is simply a requirement that must happen at some point.

You speak Arabic? Preventing money from going to terrorists is a prime goal in most Muslim countries and well controlled because the terrorists kill Muslims.. France evidently hasn't been successful in dealing with phony charities and radicalized idiots.

But behind the Zakat Foundation's outward humanitarian façade lie longstanding terror ties that include support for Hamas- and al-Qaida-tied charities, a joint investigation by the Investigative Project of Terrorism and the Middle East Forum finds.​

That was last April. Need me to keep going? I can keep listing them over and over for a dozens posts if you want.

Literalists? I think they are poorly educated and reject serious scholarship in favor of charlatans like Cyrus Scofield or Hal Lindsey or Copeland or Hagee.

The point is that you are pushing a double standard by implying one literalist is good, and another is bad.

Fundamentalism in Islam is not like Christian fundamentalism. The fundamentals of Islam are the five pillars... not literal reading of scripture as history and science.

Most "investigative forums" have never set foot in the Arab world and are strictly propaganda outlets.

The only countries that want a Caliphate are those that are poor, mismanaged, unstable or have no oil. Nasser want a Caliphate.. and he wanted control of all oil revenues in the Arab world.
 
As i began to read Marx and Engels, it reminded me of the biblical messages i grew up with

By then, I had spent several years realizing that things were not right in our society. And now I saw there were other ways to organize an economy that reward people for their work and enable them to sustain themselves. Capitalism was doing that for some, but it was leaving a whole bunch of other people to suffer and die. And I learned that these class issues could not be divorced from race and gender
Jesus may come for ya after he's done with the globo homo commie pope
View attachment 434276

Git em Jesus

I do find it funny that Republican Christianity is so different from Biblical Christianity, that you guys have to condemn the pope. If Jesus was alive today, you'd hate that brown Socialist.

Where is the Pope in the Bible?

Secret's out, all religion is bullshit.

Biblical Christianity is not 'republican' or 'democrat', it is simply what it is. It just happens that Democrats stand for nearly everything that is anti-biblical.

Biblical Christianity involves helping the poor.
Republican Christianity is all about helping the rich.

Secret's out, all religion is bullshit.

No, not true. You found where Catholicism has some false doctrine. That's like me finding one single error in one post of yours, and declaring that everything you have ever said in your entire life, is BS.

Is that really the standard you want to promote? Because I can do a search on this forum for every post you have ever made, find one error, and by your own standard you yourself are entirely full of BS. Is that really the standard you want to push?

Biblical Christianity involves helping the poor.
Republican Christianity is all about helping the rich.


Yes, Biblical Christianity involves individuals helping the poor individually. Never supports socialism or social control, or equality. In fact Jesus specifically talked against this for his followers.

Luke 22:25-26
"The kings of the Gentiles lord it over them; and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors. But you are not to be like that."

The rulers sit around saying "I am your benefactor! I'm going to provide free education! I'm going to provide free health care! Free food! Free phones! I provide you with everything! Vote for me!"

But we, Christians are not to be like that.

And we are not. We don't sit around voting for someone else to help the poor, or demand that rich people help the poor, or like all socialists, enact policies to steal from one group to pay for the benefits of another.

We give to the poor ourselves. We help the poor ourselves. We help our fellow citizens ourselves.

Republicans give more to charity, donate more of their own money, and donate more of their own time, to helping the poor than left-wingers or Democrats, and by wide margin.

This is well documented.


Every single time they have researched charitable giving, Republicans, and specifically Christian Republicans routinely give vastly more than left-wing Democrats do.

Democrats are more like Judas.

John 12:5-6
"Why wasn't this perfume sold and the money given to the poor? It was worth a year's wages."
He did not say this because he cared about the poor but because he was a thief; as keeper of the money bag, he used to help himself to what was put into it.

And that's what we see with Democrats. They claim to help people, when really they are giving out kick backs to themselves.


Exhibit A: "Of the funds appropriated under title III of the Act that are made available for assistance for Pakistan, not less than $15,000,000 shall be made available for democracy programs and not less than $10,000,000 shall be made available for gender programs." Yep. $10 million. For gender programs. In Pakistan.

Covid relief bill, to help the poor.... Gender programs in Pakistan? That went to a political supporter somewhere. Someone who supported people in government, got money as a kick back, in a bill supposedly to help the people harmed by covid.

"and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors" Luke 22:25.

Exhibit K: The bill creates a Women's History Museum and an American Latino Museum as part of the Smithsonian. Overall, the Smithsonian gets (checks notes again) $1 billion.

Because we all know that what helps fight Covid, is a Women's history museum, and American Latino museum. Another political kick back to political supporters, in the name of helping people.

"and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors" Luke 22:25.

That's Democrats. We Christian Republicans are not to be like them. We're better than them. We're morally superior to them. And that's not opinion, it's fact.

We can look at the data. Christian charities literally help people move out of poverty, and improve their lives.

Democrats help themselves, while duping their followers.


Obama started with $1 million net worth, and left with $40 Million net worth. He thanks you, for your support.

"and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors" Luke 22:25.

Muslims give far more to charity per capita than Christians. Charity is a sacred obligation in Islam. Its one of the Five Pillars.

That is true, depending on how you read the data. As I said before, you are not what you claim to be. You are what your actions determine you to be.

Jesus said it himself, when he said "Why do you call me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say?" Luke 6:46, and he also said:

"Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'" Matthew 7:23

In short, Jesus is saying, what is true even to this day, that there are many people who claim to be Christian, and are simply not Christians. Just like if I come on here and say I am a Vegan, and then go to a steakhouse and chow down on a porterhouse steak... I'm not a Vegan. Doesn't matter what I say. I might even be a member of the national Vegan society, and have a membership card.... still not a Vegan. You are only a Vegan when you follow the ideology of veganism.

Similarly, you are not a Christian, unless you follow the teachings of Christianity. If you don't help those around you and care for those in need, you are simply not a Christian. This is where "Faith without works, is dead." comes from in James.

My point in all that, is that most of the people who claim to be Christian, are simply not Christians.

Further, there is a question about Muslims and charitable giving, because not all charities that are Islamic, are what we would consider charity.

Islamic charities are routinely found to have connections and are involved in funding terrorism for example.

However, there is one irony to this. I don't see people attacking Muslims for being rigid in their enforcement of their beliefs, and they very much are. You must follow their rules.

If a Christian group attempts to enforce their rules, like Muslims do routinely, they are attacked and ridiculed for it.


So on the one hand, you attack any Christian group that would enforce Christian values, like giving charity, or in this case sexual morality.... but then when you have Christian not give to charity, you complain that they are not following Christian values.

So which is it? Do you want Christians to enforce Christian values, and won't attack us for doing so? Or is Christians having the freedom to not give to charity unlike Muslims, just fine and you have nothing to complain about?

Regardless, this doesn't change my original point, which is that Christians are consistently more charitable than left-wingers and socialists. The Muslims are also more charitable than left-wingers and socialists is also true.

All that means, is that my original point that left-wingers and socialists, and Democrats are the most stingy anti-love, least charitable people is justified by your post and my post, at the same time.

Either way, I am still absolutely correct in my statement.

Luke never met Jesus and probably never spent any time in Palestine.. His knowledge of the geography is terrible and full of errors.

Islamic charities cleaned up the loopholes that allowed funding of terrorism nearly 20 years ago.

Not all Christians are ignorant .. nor are they all literalists.


That was barely 3 months ago. No, they didn't clean up the loopholes. Muslim charities are routinely involved in terrorist groups, to this day.

Not all Christians are ignorant .. nor are they all literalists.

Are you saying literalists are bad? If so, are you suggesting that Muslim are not literal in their interpretations of Islam? Want me to post some videos from Imams talking about the Qur'an, or can we move on?

What does some Muslims being literalists have to do with fundies and Dominionists or Dispensationist in Christianity?

Literalists? I think they are poorly educated and reject serious scholarship in favor of charlatans like Cyrus Scofield or Hal Lindsey or Copeland or Hagee.

You speak Arabic? Preventing money from going to terrorists is a prime goal in most Muslim countries and well controlled because the terrorists kill Muslims.. France evidently hasn't been successful in dealing with phony charities and radicalized idiots.

Most of the Arab world doesn't want another Caliphate because the last one was such a dud and caused stagnation of their culture.

What does some Muslims being literalists have to do with fundies and Dominionists or Dispensationist in Christianity?

You implied in that post, as this one with the word "fundies" that these are bad things.

Muslims are both, literal and fundamentalists. Is that bad? If so, why were you posting that Muslims give more to charity, as if it was good?

You can't have it both ways. You can't say Fundamentalism is bad for Christians, but good for Muslims.

Most of the Arab world doesn't want another Caliphate because the last one was such a dud and caused stagnation of their culture.

What the Arab world wants, is not relevant. The word Islam itself, means submission to the will of god. That means that if god wants a Caliphate, then a Caliphate must happen, and a good muslim will fall into the ranks.
Some leading scholars of Islam, like Hujjat al-Islam al-Ghazali, have considered the caliphate an obligation regardless of its efficacy, like a religious ritual, thus separating it from its political functionality or utility. Others, like Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyya and Imam al-Haramayn al-Juwayni, have emphasized its rational nature.​


To most of the Islamic world, a Caliphate is simply a requirement that must happen at some point.

You speak Arabic? Preventing money from going to terrorists is a prime goal in most Muslim countries and well controlled because the terrorists kill Muslims.. France evidently hasn't been successful in dealing with phony charities and radicalized idiots.

But behind the Zakat Foundation's outward humanitarian façade lie longstanding terror ties that include support for Hamas- and al-Qaida-tied charities, a joint investigation by the Investigative Project of Terrorism and the Middle East Forum finds.​

That was last April. Need me to keep going? I can keep listing them over and over for a dozens posts if you want.

Literalists? I think they are poorly educated and reject serious scholarship in favor of charlatans like Cyrus Scofield or Hal Lindsey or Copeland or Hagee.

The point is that you are pushing a double standard by implying one literalist is good, and another is bad.

Fundamentalism in Islam is not like Christian fundamentalism. The fundamentals of Islam are the five pillars... not literal reading of scripture as history and science.

Most "investigative forums" have never set foot in the Arab world and are strictly propaganda outlets.

The only countries that want a Caliphate are those that are poor, mismanaged, unstable or have no oil. Nasser want a Caliphate.. and he wanted control of all oil revenues in the Arab world.

Clearly you don't know what you are talking about.


This question offers a dividing line between the progressive movement and those that take the Quran literally.​
The progressive and the liberals would assert that the Quran must be taken metaphorically and it's not a literal text.​
So we Answer the question:​
Should the Quran be taken literally or metaphorically.​
The Quran MUST be taken literally.​
And the evidence is found in the Quran, Sunnah and simple logic.​
The Quran claims to be a clear book. If one assert that the Quran is metaphorical and allegorical that would mean that the Qurans claim is false as metaphor and allegory are by nature unclear and hence lead to different interpretations.​
So since the Quran claims to be CLEAR it can't be metaphorical otherwise it has contradicted itself.​
Now that you have proven yourself ignorant of the entire topic, you can stop now.
 
As i began to read Marx and Engels, it reminded me of the biblical messages i grew up with

By then, I had spent several years realizing that things were not right in our society. And now I saw there were other ways to organize an economy that reward people for their work and enable them to sustain themselves. Capitalism was doing that for some, but it was leaving a whole bunch of other people to suffer and die. And I learned that these class issues could not be divorced from race and gender
Jesus may come for ya after he's done with the globo homo commie pope
View attachment 434276

Git em Jesus

I do find it funny that Republican Christianity is so different from Biblical Christianity, that you guys have to condemn the pope. If Jesus was alive today, you'd hate that brown Socialist.

Where is the Pope in the Bible?

Secret's out, all religion is bullshit.

Biblical Christianity is not 'republican' or 'democrat', it is simply what it is. It just happens that Democrats stand for nearly everything that is anti-biblical.

Biblical Christianity involves helping the poor.
Republican Christianity is all about helping the rich.

Secret's out, all religion is bullshit.

No, not true. You found where Catholicism has some false doctrine. That's like me finding one single error in one post of yours, and declaring that everything you have ever said in your entire life, is BS.

Is that really the standard you want to promote? Because I can do a search on this forum for every post you have ever made, find one error, and by your own standard you yourself are entirely full of BS. Is that really the standard you want to push?

Biblical Christianity involves helping the poor.
Republican Christianity is all about helping the rich.


Yes, Biblical Christianity involves individuals helping the poor individually. Never supports socialism or social control, or equality. In fact Jesus specifically talked against this for his followers.

Luke 22:25-26
"The kings of the Gentiles lord it over them; and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors. But you are not to be like that."

The rulers sit around saying "I am your benefactor! I'm going to provide free education! I'm going to provide free health care! Free food! Free phones! I provide you with everything! Vote for me!"

But we, Christians are not to be like that.

And we are not. We don't sit around voting for someone else to help the poor, or demand that rich people help the poor, or like all socialists, enact policies to steal from one group to pay for the benefits of another.

We give to the poor ourselves. We help the poor ourselves. We help our fellow citizens ourselves.

Republicans give more to charity, donate more of their own money, and donate more of their own time, to helping the poor than left-wingers or Democrats, and by wide margin.

This is well documented.


Every single time they have researched charitable giving, Republicans, and specifically Christian Republicans routinely give vastly more than left-wing Democrats do.

Democrats are more like Judas.

John 12:5-6
"Why wasn't this perfume sold and the money given to the poor? It was worth a year's wages."
He did not say this because he cared about the poor but because he was a thief; as keeper of the money bag, he used to help himself to what was put into it.

And that's what we see with Democrats. They claim to help people, when really they are giving out kick backs to themselves.


Exhibit A: "Of the funds appropriated under title III of the Act that are made available for assistance for Pakistan, not less than $15,000,000 shall be made available for democracy programs and not less than $10,000,000 shall be made available for gender programs." Yep. $10 million. For gender programs. In Pakistan.

Covid relief bill, to help the poor.... Gender programs in Pakistan? That went to a political supporter somewhere. Someone who supported people in government, got money as a kick back, in a bill supposedly to help the people harmed by covid.

"and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors" Luke 22:25.

Exhibit K: The bill creates a Women's History Museum and an American Latino Museum as part of the Smithsonian. Overall, the Smithsonian gets (checks notes again) $1 billion.

Because we all know that what helps fight Covid, is a Women's history museum, and American Latino museum. Another political kick back to political supporters, in the name of helping people.

"and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors" Luke 22:25.

That's Democrats. We Christian Republicans are not to be like them. We're better than them. We're morally superior to them. And that's not opinion, it's fact.

We can look at the data. Christian charities literally help people move out of poverty, and improve their lives.

Democrats help themselves, while duping their followers.


Obama started with $1 million net worth, and left with $40 Million net worth. He thanks you, for your support.

"and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors" Luke 22:25.

Muslims give far more to charity per capita than Christians. Charity is a sacred obligation in Islam. Its one of the Five Pillars.

That is true, depending on how you read the data. As I said before, you are not what you claim to be. You are what your actions determine you to be.

Jesus said it himself, when he said "Why do you call me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say?" Luke 6:46, and he also said:

"Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'" Matthew 7:23

In short, Jesus is saying, what is true even to this day, that there are many people who claim to be Christian, and are simply not Christians. Just like if I come on here and say I am a Vegan, and then go to a steakhouse and chow down on a porterhouse steak... I'm not a Vegan. Doesn't matter what I say. I might even be a member of the national Vegan society, and have a membership card.... still not a Vegan. You are only a Vegan when you follow the ideology of veganism.

Similarly, you are not a Christian, unless you follow the teachings of Christianity. If you don't help those around you and care for those in need, you are simply not a Christian. This is where "Faith without works, is dead." comes from in James.

My point in all that, is that most of the people who claim to be Christian, are simply not Christians.

Further, there is a question about Muslims and charitable giving, because not all charities that are Islamic, are what we would consider charity.

Islamic charities are routinely found to have connections and are involved in funding terrorism for example.

However, there is one irony to this. I don't see people attacking Muslims for being rigid in their enforcement of their beliefs, and they very much are. You must follow their rules.

If a Christian group attempts to enforce their rules, like Muslims do routinely, they are attacked and ridiculed for it.


So on the one hand, you attack any Christian group that would enforce Christian values, like giving charity, or in this case sexual morality.... but then when you have Christian not give to charity, you complain that they are not following Christian values.

So which is it? Do you want Christians to enforce Christian values, and won't attack us for doing so? Or is Christians having the freedom to not give to charity unlike Muslims, just fine and you have nothing to complain about?

Regardless, this doesn't change my original point, which is that Christians are consistently more charitable than left-wingers and socialists. The Muslims are also more charitable than left-wingers and socialists is also true.

All that means, is that my original point that left-wingers and socialists, and Democrats are the most stingy anti-love, least charitable people is justified by your post and my post, at the same time.

Either way, I am still absolutely correct in my statement.

Luke never met Jesus and probably never spent any time in Palestine.. His knowledge of the geography is terrible and full of errors.

Islamic charities cleaned up the loopholes that allowed funding of terrorism nearly 20 years ago.

Not all Christians are ignorant .. nor are they all literalists.


That was barely 3 months ago. No, they didn't clean up the loopholes. Muslim charities are routinely involved in terrorist groups, to this day.

Not all Christians are ignorant .. nor are they all literalists.

Are you saying literalists are bad? If so, are you suggesting that Muslim are not literal in their interpretations of Islam? Want me to post some videos from Imams talking about the Qur'an, or can we move on?

What does some Muslims being literalists have to do with fundies and Dominionists or Dispensationist in Christianity?

Literalists? I think they are poorly educated and reject serious scholarship in favor of charlatans like Cyrus Scofield or Hal Lindsey or Copeland or Hagee.

You speak Arabic? Preventing money from going to terrorists is a prime goal in most Muslim countries and well controlled because the terrorists kill Muslims.. France evidently hasn't been successful in dealing with phony charities and radicalized idiots.

Most of the Arab world doesn't want another Caliphate because the last one was such a dud and caused stagnation of their culture.

What does some Muslims being literalists have to do with fundies and Dominionists or Dispensationist in Christianity?

You implied in that post, as this one with the word "fundies" that these are bad things.

Muslims are both, literal and fundamentalists. Is that bad? If so, why were you posting that Muslims give more to charity, as if it was good?

You can't have it both ways. You can't say Fundamentalism is bad for Christians, but good for Muslims.

Most of the Arab world doesn't want another Caliphate because the last one was such a dud and caused stagnation of their culture.

What the Arab world wants, is not relevant. The word Islam itself, means submission to the will of god. That means that if god wants a Caliphate, then a Caliphate must happen, and a good muslim will fall into the ranks.
Some leading scholars of Islam, like Hujjat al-Islam al-Ghazali, have considered the caliphate an obligation regardless of its efficacy, like a religious ritual, thus separating it from its political functionality or utility. Others, like Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyya and Imam al-Haramayn al-Juwayni, have emphasized its rational nature.​


To most of the Islamic world, a Caliphate is simply a requirement that must happen at some point.

You speak Arabic? Preventing money from going to terrorists is a prime goal in most Muslim countries and well controlled because the terrorists kill Muslims.. France evidently hasn't been successful in dealing with phony charities and radicalized idiots.

But behind the Zakat Foundation's outward humanitarian façade lie longstanding terror ties that include support for Hamas- and al-Qaida-tied charities, a joint investigation by the Investigative Project of Terrorism and the Middle East Forum finds.​

That was last April. Need me to keep going? I can keep listing them over and over for a dozens posts if you want.

Literalists? I think they are poorly educated and reject serious scholarship in favor of charlatans like Cyrus Scofield or Hal Lindsey or Copeland or Hagee.

The point is that you are pushing a double standard by implying one literalist is good, and another is bad.

Fundamentalism in Islam is not like Christian fundamentalism. The fundamentals of Islam are the five pillars... not literal reading of scripture as history and science.

Most "investigative forums" have never set foot in the Arab world and are strictly propaganda outlets.

The only countries that want a Caliphate are those that are poor, mismanaged, unstable or have no oil. Nasser want a Caliphate.. and he wanted control of all oil revenues in the Arab world.

Clearly you don't know what you are talking about.


This question offers a dividing line between the progressive movement and those that take the Quran literally.​
The progressive and the liberals would assert that the Quran must be taken metaphorically and it's not a literal text.​
So we Answer the question:​
Should the Quran be taken literally or metaphorically.​
The Quran MUST be taken literally.​
And the evidence is found in the Quran, Sunnah and simple logic.​
The Quran claims to be a clear book. If one assert that the Quran is metaphorical and allegorical that would mean that the Qurans claim is false as metaphor and allegory are by nature unclear and hence lead to different interpretations.​
So since the Quran claims to be CLEAR it can't be metaphorical otherwise it has contradicted itself.​
Now that you have proven yourself ignorant of the entire topic, you can stop now.

I have no idea who Maliki is, but the Koran is not taken literally.. There are over 30 allegories for heaven. The night flight is not taken literally.. Most of the hadiths came out of Persia 250 after the death of Muhammed and very few have been authenticated.. In fact, Muslim scholars know that much of what passes for Islam are tribal traditions.

Where did you live in the Arab world?
 
Nice try at parsing the words. This shows (again) how, given enough centuries, trained minds can deform and detour even the clearest message.
Nothing to do with parsing words, but using the context to determine definition. Today, Webster's Dictionary has 22 definitions for father. There may not have been 22 definitions in Aramaic, but there was definitely more than one. We know the one Jesus used was in use. The one we know from Biblical use is Father Abraham. We know from the New Testament spiritual father-child relationships.

Non-Catholic Christians have booted at least two traditions in place from the time of Christ and the Apostles: The Sacraments and the idea of the spiritual father-child relationships.

Take a look at Martin Luther...he dropped being a father in the Catholic Church use of the word and became the Father of the Lutheran Church/Protestantism is the use Jesus was using. Protestants get around this by calling him Founder. ;)
 
I do find it funny that Republican Christianity is so different from Biblical Christianity, that you guys have to condemn the pope. If Jesus was alive today, you'd hate that brown Socialist.
You should get a load of how different and wacked-out liberal "Christianity" is.
 
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I do find it funny that Republican Christianity is so different from Biblical Christianity, that you guys have to condemn the pope. If Jesus was alive today, you'd hate that brown Socialist.
You should get a load of how different and whacked-out liberal "Christianity" is.

Liberal Christianity? You mean because they don't follow Hal Lindsey or believe in the Rapture?
 
I do find it funny that Republican Christianity is so different from Biblical Christianity, that you guys have to condemn the pope. If Jesus was alive today, you'd hate that brown Socialist.
You should get a load of how different and whacked-out liberal "Christianity" is.

Liberal Christianity? You mean because they don't follow Hal Lindsey or believe in the Rapture?
No, that's the wackiness of mainstream and evangelical Christianity.

Liberal Christianity is voodoo Christianity; it incorporates Eastern spiritual practices. It teaches God as male and female and co-creator alongside humankind. It advocates for big government and disruptions in family cohesion. With their noses in the air, they accuse traditional Christians of moral superiority.

Most bizarre, I think, is that they deny the deity of Christ, which should make them not any kind of Christian. But then, as with everything else, they like to change definitions.
 
I do find it funny that Republican Christianity is so different from Biblical Christianity, that you guys have to condemn the pope. If Jesus was alive today, you'd hate that brown Socialist.
You should get a load of how different and whacked-out liberal "Christianity" is.

Liberal Christianity? You mean because they don't follow Hal Lindsey or believe in the Rapture?
No, that's the wackiness of mainstream and evangelical Christianity.

Liberal Christianity is voodoo Christianity; it incorporates Eastern spiritual practices. It teaches God as male and female and co-creator alongside humankind. It advocates for big government and disruptions in family cohesion. With their noses in the air, they accuse traditional Christians of moral superiority.

Most bizarre, I think, is that they deny the deity of Christ, which should make them not any kind of Christian. But then, as with everything else, they like to change definitions.

Christian fundamentalism was officially founded in 1919 by a guy named Riley as a backlash against science and modernity. It began a culture war which is still with us.. It was rapidly inclusive of the Scofield Heresy which gained momentum during the Dust Bowl years and the Great Depression.
 
I do find it funny that Republican Christianity is so different from Biblical Christianity, that you guys have to condemn the pope. If Jesus was alive today, you'd hate that brown Socialist.
You should get a load of how different and whacked-out liberal "Christianity" is.

Liberal Christianity? You mean because they don't follow Hal Lindsey or believe in the Rapture?
No, that's the wackiness of mainstream and evangelical Christianity.

Liberal Christianity is voodoo Christianity; it incorporates Eastern spiritual practices. It teaches God as male and female and co-creator alongside humankind. It advocates for big government and disruptions in family cohesion. With their noses in the air, they accuse traditional Christians of moral superiority.

Most bizarre, I think, is that they deny the deity of Christ, which should make them not any kind of Christian. But then, as with everything else, they like to change definitions.

But so-called Liberal Christianity is more similar to Biblical Christianity when it comes to their view of the poor.
Conservatives only care about Christianity when it comes to oppressing certain groups of people.
 
I do find it funny that Republican Christianity is so different from Biblical Christianity, that you guys have to condemn the pope. If Jesus was alive today, you'd hate that brown Socialist.
You should get a load of how different and whacked-out liberal "Christianity" is.

Liberal Christianity? You mean because they don't follow Hal Lindsey or believe in the Rapture?
No, that's the wackiness of mainstream and evangelical Christianity.

Liberal Christianity is voodoo Christianity; it incorporates Eastern spiritual practices. It teaches God as male and female and co-creator alongside humankind. It advocates for big government and disruptions in family cohesion. With their noses in the air, they accuse traditional Christians of moral superiority.

Most bizarre, I think, is that they deny the deity of Christ, which should make them not any kind of Christian. But then, as with everything else, they like to change definitions.

But so-called Liberal Christianity is more similar to Biblical Christianity when it comes to their view of the poor.
Conservatives only care about Christianity when it comes to oppressing certain groups of people.
On the contrary, so-called Republican Christianity is more similar to Biblical Christianity when it comes to their view of the poor.
Liberals only care about Christianity when it comes to oppressing certain groups of people.
 
I do find it funny that Republican Christianity is so different from Biblical Christianity, that you guys have to condemn the pope. If Jesus was alive today, you'd hate that brown Socialist.
You should get a load of how different and whacked-out liberal "Christianity" is.

Liberal Christianity? You mean because they don't follow Hal Lindsey or believe in the Rapture?
No, that's the wackiness of mainstream and evangelical Christianity.

Liberal Christianity is voodoo Christianity; it incorporates Eastern spiritual practices. It teaches God as male and female and co-creator alongside humankind. It advocates for big government and disruptions in family cohesion. With their noses in the air, they accuse traditional Christians of moral superiority.

Most bizarre, I think, is that they deny the deity of Christ, which should make them not any kind of Christian. But then, as with everything else, they like to change definitions.

But so-called Liberal Christianity is more similar to Biblical Christianity when it comes to their view of the poor.
Conservatives only care about Christianity when it comes to oppressing certain groups of people.

Reactionary Christianity is somewhat hard to take .. They all seem to be rapture ready and looking for Armageddon.. Why bother with climate change or pollution or humane rights?
 
As i began to read Marx and Engels, it reminded me of the biblical messages i grew up with

By then, I had spent several years realizing that things were not right in our society. And now I saw there were other ways to organize an economy that reward people for their work and enable them to sustain themselves. Capitalism was doing that for some, but it was leaving a whole bunch of other people to suffer and die. And I learned that these class issues could not be divorced from race and gender
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I do find it funny that Republican Christianity is so different from Biblical Christianity, that you guys have to condemn the pope. If Jesus was alive today, you'd hate that brown Socialist.

Where is the Pope in the Bible?

Secret's out, all religion is bullshit.

Biblical Christianity is not 'republican' or 'democrat', it is simply what it is. It just happens that Democrats stand for nearly everything that is anti-biblical.

Biblical Christianity involves helping the poor.
Republican Christianity is all about helping the rich.

Secret's out, all religion is bullshit.

No, not true. You found where Catholicism has some false doctrine. That's like me finding one single error in one post of yours, and declaring that everything you have ever said in your entire life, is BS.

Is that really the standard you want to promote? Because I can do a search on this forum for every post you have ever made, find one error, and by your own standard you yourself are entirely full of BS. Is that really the standard you want to push?

Biblical Christianity involves helping the poor.
Republican Christianity is all about helping the rich.


Yes, Biblical Christianity involves individuals helping the poor individually. Never supports socialism or social control, or equality. In fact Jesus specifically talked against this for his followers.

Luke 22:25-26
"The kings of the Gentiles lord it over them; and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors. But you are not to be like that."

The rulers sit around saying "I am your benefactor! I'm going to provide free education! I'm going to provide free health care! Free food! Free phones! I provide you with everything! Vote for me!"

But we, Christians are not to be like that.

And we are not. We don't sit around voting for someone else to help the poor, or demand that rich people help the poor, or like all socialists, enact policies to steal from one group to pay for the benefits of another.

We give to the poor ourselves. We help the poor ourselves. We help our fellow citizens ourselves.

Republicans give more to charity, donate more of their own money, and donate more of their own time, to helping the poor than left-wingers or Democrats, and by wide margin.

This is well documented.


Every single time they have researched charitable giving, Republicans, and specifically Christian Republicans routinely give vastly more than left-wing Democrats do.

Democrats are more like Judas.

John 12:5-6
"Why wasn't this perfume sold and the money given to the poor? It was worth a year's wages."
He did not say this because he cared about the poor but because he was a thief; as keeper of the money bag, he used to help himself to what was put into it.

And that's what we see with Democrats. They claim to help people, when really they are giving out kick backs to themselves.


Exhibit A: "Of the funds appropriated under title III of the Act that are made available for assistance for Pakistan, not less than $15,000,000 shall be made available for democracy programs and not less than $10,000,000 shall be made available for gender programs." Yep. $10 million. For gender programs. In Pakistan.

Covid relief bill, to help the poor.... Gender programs in Pakistan? That went to a political supporter somewhere. Someone who supported people in government, got money as a kick back, in a bill supposedly to help the people harmed by covid.

"and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors" Luke 22:25.

Exhibit K: The bill creates a Women's History Museum and an American Latino Museum as part of the Smithsonian. Overall, the Smithsonian gets (checks notes again) $1 billion.

Because we all know that what helps fight Covid, is a Women's history museum, and American Latino museum. Another political kick back to political supporters, in the name of helping people.

"and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors" Luke 22:25.

That's Democrats. We Christian Republicans are not to be like them. We're better than them. We're morally superior to them. And that's not opinion, it's fact.

We can look at the data. Christian charities literally help people move out of poverty, and improve their lives.

Democrats help themselves, while duping their followers.


Obama started with $1 million net worth, and left with $40 Million net worth. He thanks you, for your support.

"and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors" Luke 22:25.

Muslims give far more to charity per capita than Christians. Charity is a sacred obligation in Islam. Its one of the Five Pillars.

That is true, depending on how you read the data. As I said before, you are not what you claim to be. You are what your actions determine you to be.

Jesus said it himself, when he said "Why do you call me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say?" Luke 6:46, and he also said:

"Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'" Matthew 7:23

In short, Jesus is saying, what is true even to this day, that there are many people who claim to be Christian, and are simply not Christians. Just like if I come on here and say I am a Vegan, and then go to a steakhouse and chow down on a porterhouse steak... I'm not a Vegan. Doesn't matter what I say. I might even be a member of the national Vegan society, and have a membership card.... still not a Vegan. You are only a Vegan when you follow the ideology of veganism.

Similarly, you are not a Christian, unless you follow the teachings of Christianity. If you don't help those around you and care for those in need, you are simply not a Christian. This is where "Faith without works, is dead." comes from in James.

My point in all that, is that most of the people who claim to be Christian, are simply not Christians.

Further, there is a question about Muslims and charitable giving, because not all charities that are Islamic, are what we would consider charity.

Islamic charities are routinely found to have connections and are involved in funding terrorism for example.

However, there is one irony to this. I don't see people attacking Muslims for being rigid in their enforcement of their beliefs, and they very much are. You must follow their rules.

If a Christian group attempts to enforce their rules, like Muslims do routinely, they are attacked and ridiculed for it.


So on the one hand, you attack any Christian group that would enforce Christian values, like giving charity, or in this case sexual morality.... but then when you have Christian not give to charity, you complain that they are not following Christian values.

So which is it? Do you want Christians to enforce Christian values, and won't attack us for doing so? Or is Christians having the freedom to not give to charity unlike Muslims, just fine and you have nothing to complain about?

Regardless, this doesn't change my original point, which is that Christians are consistently more charitable than left-wingers and socialists. The Muslims are also more charitable than left-wingers and socialists is also true.

All that means, is that my original point that left-wingers and socialists, and Democrats are the most stingy anti-love, least charitable people is justified by your post and my post, at the same time.

Either way, I am still absolutely correct in my statement.

Luke never met Jesus and probably never spent any time in Palestine.. His knowledge of the geography is terrible and full of errors.

Islamic charities cleaned up the loopholes that allowed funding of terrorism nearly 20 years ago.

Not all Christians are ignorant .. nor are they all literalists.


That was barely 3 months ago. No, they didn't clean up the loopholes. Muslim charities are routinely involved in terrorist groups, to this day.

Not all Christians are ignorant .. nor are they all literalists.

Are you saying literalists are bad? If so, are you suggesting that Muslim are not literal in their interpretations of Islam? Want me to post some videos from Imams talking about the Qur'an, or can we move on?

What does some Muslims being literalists have to do with fundies and Dominionists or Dispensationist in Christianity?

Literalists? I think they are poorly educated and reject serious scholarship in favor of charlatans like Cyrus Scofield or Hal Lindsey or Copeland or Hagee.

You speak Arabic? Preventing money from going to terrorists is a prime goal in most Muslim countries and well controlled because the terrorists kill Muslims.. France evidently hasn't been successful in dealing with phony charities and radicalized idiots.

Most of the Arab world doesn't want another Caliphate because the last one was such a dud and caused stagnation of their culture.

What does some Muslims being literalists have to do with fundies and Dominionists or Dispensationist in Christianity?

You implied in that post, as this one with the word "fundies" that these are bad things.

Muslims are both, literal and fundamentalists. Is that bad? If so, why were you posting that Muslims give more to charity, as if it was good?

You can't have it both ways. You can't say Fundamentalism is bad for Christians, but good for Muslims.

Most of the Arab world doesn't want another Caliphate because the last one was such a dud and caused stagnation of their culture.

What the Arab world wants, is not relevant. The word Islam itself, means submission to the will of god. That means that if god wants a Caliphate, then a Caliphate must happen, and a good muslim will fall into the ranks.
Some leading scholars of Islam, like Hujjat al-Islam al-Ghazali, have considered the caliphate an obligation regardless of its efficacy, like a religious ritual, thus separating it from its political functionality or utility. Others, like Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyya and Imam al-Haramayn al-Juwayni, have emphasized its rational nature.​


To most of the Islamic world, a Caliphate is simply a requirement that must happen at some point.

You speak Arabic? Preventing money from going to terrorists is a prime goal in most Muslim countries and well controlled because the terrorists kill Muslims.. France evidently hasn't been successful in dealing with phony charities and radicalized idiots.

But behind the Zakat Foundation's outward humanitarian façade lie longstanding terror ties that include support for Hamas- and al-Qaida-tied charities, a joint investigation by the Investigative Project of Terrorism and the Middle East Forum finds.​

That was last April. Need me to keep going? I can keep listing them over and over for a dozens posts if you want.

Literalists? I think they are poorly educated and reject serious scholarship in favor of charlatans like Cyrus Scofield or Hal Lindsey or Copeland or Hagee.

The point is that you are pushing a double standard by implying one literalist is good, and another is bad.

Fundamentalism in Islam is not like Christian fundamentalism. The fundamentals of Islam are the five pillars... not literal reading of scripture as history and science.

Most "investigative forums" have never set foot in the Arab world and are strictly propaganda outlets.

The only countries that want a Caliphate are those that are poor, mismanaged, unstable or have no oil. Nasser want a Caliphate.. and he wanted control of all oil revenues in the Arab world.

Clearly you don't know what you are talking about.


This question offers a dividing line between the progressive movement and those that take the Quran literally.​
The progressive and the liberals would assert that the Quran must be taken metaphorically and it's not a literal text.​
So we Answer the question:​
Should the Quran be taken literally or metaphorically.​
The Quran MUST be taken literally.​
And the evidence is found in the Quran, Sunnah and simple logic.​
The Quran claims to be a clear book. If one assert that the Quran is metaphorical and allegorical that would mean that the Qurans claim is false as metaphor and allegory are by nature unclear and hence lead to different interpretations.​
So since the Quran claims to be CLEAR it can't be metaphorical otherwise it has contradicted itself.​
Now that you have proven yourself ignorant of the entire topic, you can stop now.

I have no idea who Maliki is, but the Koran is not taken literally.. There are over 30 allegories for heaven. The night flight is not taken literally.. Most of the hadiths came out of Persia 250 after the death of Muhammed and very few have been authenticated.. In fact, Muslim scholars know that much of what passes for Islam are tribal traditions.

Where did you live in the Arab world?

I'm not going to waste too much more time with you, since I already know that you are ignorant of the topic.


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There is only one way to read the Quran and interpret it correctly: 63% of Muslims world wide believe that.

The Quran is literal, word for word: 80% world wide.

With this post, I am done with you. The facts contradict your opinion. End of story. Sorry, but I have better things to do with someone who keeps repeating what is false, in the face of hard facts over and over.

You refuse to believe the facts, ignoring the evidence.

That's your choice. It is ironic given you prior to this, claimed Christian 'fundies' ignored the evidence in favor of opinions, and now here you are proving you are no better.

Thanks for stopping by. Have a good one.
 
I do find it funny that Republican Christianity is so different from Biblical Christianity, that you guys have to condemn the pope. If Jesus was alive today, you'd hate that brown Socialist.
You should get a load of how different and whacked-out liberal "Christianity" is.

Liberal Christianity? You mean because they don't follow Hal Lindsey or believe in the Rapture?
No, that's the wackiness of mainstream and evangelical Christianity.

Liberal Christianity is voodoo Christianity; it incorporates Eastern spiritual practices. It teaches God as male and female and co-creator alongside humankind. It advocates for big government and disruptions in family cohesion. With their noses in the air, they accuse traditional Christians of moral superiority.

Most bizarre, I think, is that they deny the deity of Christ, which should make them not any kind of Christian. But then, as with everything else, they like to change definitions.

What you described, is simply... not Christianity.

Christianity is defined in the Bible. If you make up your own version... then it's just.... NOT Christianity.

You don't get to make it up. That's just you inventing your own G-d. You might as well carve some wood, and bow down to idols.
 
I do find it funny that Republican Christianity is so different from Biblical Christianity, that you guys have to condemn the pope. If Jesus was alive today, you'd hate that brown Socialist.
You should get a load of how different and whacked-out liberal "Christianity" is.

Liberal Christianity? You mean because they don't follow Hal Lindsey or believe in the Rapture?
No, that's the wackiness of mainstream and evangelical Christianity.

Liberal Christianity is voodoo Christianity; it incorporates Eastern spiritual practices. It teaches God as male and female and co-creator alongside humankind. It advocates for big government and disruptions in family cohesion. With their noses in the air, they accuse traditional Christians of moral superiority.

Most bizarre, I think, is that they deny the deity of Christ, which should make them not any kind of Christian. But then, as with everything else, they like to change definitions.

But so-called Liberal Christianity is more similar to Biblical Christianity when it comes to their view of the poor.
Conservatives only care about Christianity when it comes to oppressing certain groups of people.
On the contrary, so-called Republican Christianity is more similar to Biblical Christianity when it comes to their view of the poor.
Liberals only care about Christianity when it comes to oppressing certain groups of people.

That's not true, because they scream and yell when we oppress no one. Samaritan's purse setup a free clinic in NYC, that was open to everyone, and they tried to have it closed.

As for Republicans and Christianity, yes both care about the poor in the same way, which is good and moral.
 
As i began to read Marx and Engels, it reminded me of the biblical messages i grew up with

By then, I had spent several years realizing that things were not right in our society. And now I saw there were other ways to organize an economy that reward people for their work and enable them to sustain themselves. Capitalism was doing that for some, but it was leaving a whole bunch of other people to suffer and die. And I learned that these class issues could not be divorced from race and gender
Thou shalt not steal
How can you steal unless God honors private ownership
 
As i began to read Marx and Engels, it reminded me of the biblical messages i grew up with

By then, I had spent several years realizing that things were not right in our society. And now I saw there were other ways to organize an economy that reward people for their work and enable them to sustain themselves. Capitalism was doing that for some, but it was leaving a whole bunch of other people to suffer and die. And I learned that these class issues could not be divorced from race and gender
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I do find it funny that Republican Christianity is so different from Biblical Christianity, that you guys have to condemn the pope. If Jesus was alive today, you'd hate that brown Socialist.

Where is the Pope in the Bible?

Secret's out, all religion is bullshit.

Biblical Christianity is not 'republican' or 'democrat', it is simply what it is. It just happens that Democrats stand for nearly everything that is anti-biblical.

Biblical Christianity involves helping the poor.
Republican Christianity is all about helping the rich.

Secret's out, all religion is bullshit.

No, not true. You found where Catholicism has some false doctrine. That's like me finding one single error in one post of yours, and declaring that everything you have ever said in your entire life, is BS.

Is that really the standard you want to promote? Because I can do a search on this forum for every post you have ever made, find one error, and by your own standard you yourself are entirely full of BS. Is that really the standard you want to push?

Biblical Christianity involves helping the poor.
Republican Christianity is all about helping the rich.


Yes, Biblical Christianity involves individuals helping the poor individually. Never supports socialism or social control, or equality. In fact Jesus specifically talked against this for his followers.

Luke 22:25-26
"The kings of the Gentiles lord it over them; and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors. But you are not to be like that."

The rulers sit around saying "I am your benefactor! I'm going to provide free education! I'm going to provide free health care! Free food! Free phones! I provide you with everything! Vote for me!"

But we, Christians are not to be like that.

And we are not. We don't sit around voting for someone else to help the poor, or demand that rich people help the poor, or like all socialists, enact policies to steal from one group to pay for the benefits of another.

We give to the poor ourselves. We help the poor ourselves. We help our fellow citizens ourselves.

Republicans give more to charity, donate more of their own money, and donate more of their own time, to helping the poor than left-wingers or Democrats, and by wide margin.

This is well documented.


Every single time they have researched charitable giving, Republicans, and specifically Christian Republicans routinely give vastly more than left-wing Democrats do.

Democrats are more like Judas.

John 12:5-6
"Why wasn't this perfume sold and the money given to the poor? It was worth a year's wages."
He did not say this because he cared about the poor but because he was a thief; as keeper of the money bag, he used to help himself to what was put into it.

And that's what we see with Democrats. They claim to help people, when really they are giving out kick backs to themselves.


Exhibit A: "Of the funds appropriated under title III of the Act that are made available for assistance for Pakistan, not less than $15,000,000 shall be made available for democracy programs and not less than $10,000,000 shall be made available for gender programs." Yep. $10 million. For gender programs. In Pakistan.

Covid relief bill, to help the poor.... Gender programs in Pakistan? That went to a political supporter somewhere. Someone who supported people in government, got money as a kick back, in a bill supposedly to help the people harmed by covid.

"and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors" Luke 22:25.

Exhibit K: The bill creates a Women's History Museum and an American Latino Museum as part of the Smithsonian. Overall, the Smithsonian gets (checks notes again) $1 billion.

Because we all know that what helps fight Covid, is a Women's history museum, and American Latino museum. Another political kick back to political supporters, in the name of helping people.

"and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors" Luke 22:25.

That's Democrats. We Christian Republicans are not to be like them. We're better than them. We're morally superior to them. And that's not opinion, it's fact.

We can look at the data. Christian charities literally help people move out of poverty, and improve their lives.

Democrats help themselves, while duping their followers.


Obama started with $1 million net worth, and left with $40 Million net worth. He thanks you, for your support.

"and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors" Luke 22:25.

Muslims give far more to charity per capita than Christians. Charity is a sacred obligation in Islam. Its one of the Five Pillars.
Bullshit. That must be why the Palestinians live in a ghetto while the oil producing muslims are filthy rich, huh.
 
I do find it funny that Republican Christianity is so different from Biblical Christianity, that you guys have to condemn the pope. If Jesus was alive today, you'd hate that brown Socialist.
You should get a load of how different and whacked-out liberal "Christianity" is.

Liberal Christianity? You mean because they don't follow Hal Lindsey or believe in the Rapture?
No, that's the wackiness of mainstream and evangelical Christianity.

Liberal Christianity is voodoo Christianity; it incorporates Eastern spiritual practices. It teaches God as male and female and co-creator alongside humankind. It advocates for big government and disruptions in family cohesion. With their noses in the air, they accuse traditional Christians of moral superiority.

Most bizarre, I think, is that they deny the deity of Christ, which should make them not any kind of Christian. But then, as with everything else, they like to change definitions.

What you described, is simply... not Christianity.

Christianity is defined in the Bible. If you make up your own version... then it's just.... NOT Christianity.

You don't get to make it up. That's just you inventing your own G-d. You might as well carve some wood, and bow down to idols.
I know I didn't describe Christianity. I described liberal Christianity.
 
I do find it funny that Republican Christianity is so different from Biblical Christianity, that you guys have to condemn the pope. If Jesus was alive today, you'd hate that brown Socialist.
You should get a load of how different and whacked-out liberal "Christianity" is.

Liberal Christianity? You mean because they don't follow Hal Lindsey or believe in the Rapture?
No, that's the wackiness of mainstream and evangelical Christianity.

Liberal Christianity is voodoo Christianity; it incorporates Eastern spiritual practices. It teaches God as male and female and co-creator alongside humankind. It advocates for big government and disruptions in family cohesion. With their noses in the air, they accuse traditional Christians of moral superiority.

Most bizarre, I think, is that they deny the deity of Christ, which should make them not any kind of Christian. But then, as with everything else, they like to change definitions.

But so-called Liberal Christianity is more similar to Biblical Christianity when it comes to their view of the poor.
Conservatives only care about Christianity when it comes to oppressing certain groups of people.
On the contrary, so-called Republican Christianity is more similar to Biblical Christianity when it comes to their view of the poor.
Liberals only care about Christianity when it comes to oppressing certain groups of people.

That's not true, because they scream and yell when we oppress no one. Samaritan's purse setup a free clinic in NYC, that was open to everyone, and they tried to have it closed.

As for Republicans and Christianity, yes both care about the poor in the same way, which is good and moral.
I know it's not true. I just did what PrincessAwesome did.

You miss nuance.
 
I do find it funny that Republican Christianity is so different from Biblical Christianity, that you guys have to condemn the pope. If Jesus was alive today, you'd hate that brown Socialist.
You should get a load of how different and whacked-out liberal "Christianity" is.

Liberal Christianity? You mean because they don't follow Hal Lindsey or believe in the Rapture?
No, that's the wackiness of mainstream and evangelical Christianity.

Liberal Christianity is voodoo Christianity; it incorporates Eastern spiritual practices. It teaches God as male and female and co-creator alongside humankind. It advocates for big government and disruptions in family cohesion. With their noses in the air, they accuse traditional Christians of moral superiority.

Most bizarre, I think, is that they deny the deity of Christ, which should make them not any kind of Christian. But then, as with everything else, they like to change definitions.

But so-called Liberal Christianity is more similar to Biblical Christianity when it comes to their view of the poor.
Conservatives only care about Christianity when it comes to oppressing certain groups of people.
On the contrary, so-called Republican Christianity is more similar to Biblical Christianity when it comes to their view of the poor.
Liberals only care about Christianity when it comes to oppressing certain groups of people.

Republican Evangelicals are in a culture war that rejects science and modernity and instead embraces the Scofield Heresy or Late Great Planet Earth.
 
Nice try at parsing the words. This shows (again) how, given enough centuries, trained minds can deform and detour even the clearest message.
Nothing to do with parsing words, but using the context to determine definition. Today, Webster's Dictionary has 22 definitions for father. There may not have been 22 definitions in Aramaic, but there was definitely more than one. We know the one Jesus used was in use. The one we know from Biblical use is Father Abraham. We know from the New Testament spiritual father-child relationships.

Non-Catholic Christians have booted at least two traditions in place from the time of Christ and the Apostles: The Sacraments and the idea of the spiritual father-child relationships.

Take a look at Martin Luther...he dropped being a father in the Catholic Church use of the word and became the Father of the Lutheran Church/Protestantism is the use Jesus was using. Protestants get around this by calling him Founder. ;)
This essentially says that Jesus lacked the sense and foresight to realize his simple words would not be understood.
He taught in parables, metaphor, in order that the greatest and most personal meaning could be appreciated by the least complex audiences. Efforts to re-enforce doctrinal percepts by twisting Jesus' words have largely destroyed the transcendent message that bore early Christians across the centuries before Rome was declared the center of the faith.
 
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