The Bible Is Evidence

[there4eyeM]

When did the talking snakes go extinct?

After the bitch ate the apple.

Was this before or after Noah somehow managed to collect two of every animal on the planet, put them on a boat, set sail?

Now, to be honest, Noah didn't have to "set sail"; the water rose and bore him (them?) off.

 

[there4eyeM]

Noah is also the second time that all humanity was born of sisters and brothers repeatedly reproducing. Things have changed, as today that would be genetically catastrophic, even impossible.

 

[Viktor]

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The bible is evidence. It is witness testimony and in most cases, we know who wrote it. Shall we ignore evidence because the witness has died? How foolish! Using that standard, we would discard completely most libraries. All our history books would be rendered useless, as would most of our science books and math books. Isaac Newton is dead. Shall we therefore discard what he wrote?
Galileo is dead. Shall we therefore discard what he wrote?
Clarence Darrow is past on. Shall we discard what he wrote? How about Supreme Ct Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes?

Shall we discard the Gettysburg Address because Abe Lincoln is dead?
How about the Founding Fathers? Is our Constitution useless because they are all deceased?

The Rules of evidence in all 50 states allow the introduction of witness testimony. Of course, it is always wise to verify evidence with other testimony or cross examination, but that still leaves the original testimony for consideration by the judge or jury.

We can verify evidence by examining the lives of the speaker to evaluate his credibility and this is useful for the bible. Was Moses an honest man? Were the apostles honest men? How about Matthew, John and Paul?

no it's not

Read Article VI here:

Federal Rules of Evidence

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[fncceo]

Not evidence either ...

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That's not to say there isn't a lot of cool stuff in it ... but it's not meant to be taken literally.

Obviously, you have no education in law and don't understand evidence.

Actually, in my job, I do. A statement can be evidence. But, only if the person making the statement can be cross-examined in court. At the end of every statement used in evidence is a Jurat ... a written acknowledgement by the person giving the statement that it is fully factual under penalty of perjury.

 

[fncceo]

When did the talking snakes go extinct?

Law schools produce them by the millions.

 

[Hollie]

Not evidence either ...

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That's not to say there isn't a lot of cool stuff in it ... but it's not meant to be taken literally.

Obviously, you have no education in law and don't understand evidence.

I don’t believe supernaturalism is presentable as evidence.

 

[irosie91]

Not evidence either ...

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That's not to say there isn't a lot of cool stuff in it ... but it's not meant to be taken literally.

Obviously, you have no education in law and don't understand evidence.

I don’t believe supernaturalism is presentable as evidence.

william jennings Bryan used it in the SCOPES trial

 

[Viktor]

Obviously, you have no education in law and don't understand evidence.

Obviously, you have no education in law and don't understand evidence.

Here are the Federal Rules of Evidence

Federal Rules of Evidence

www.law.cornell.edu

Read VI and VII

 

[BreezeWood]

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​ ​ View attachment 338951 May 20 (6 hours ago)​ The bible is evidence. It is witness testimony and in most cases, we know who wrote it. Shall we ignore evidence because the witness has died? How foolish! Using that standard, we would discard completely most libraries. All our history books would be rendered useless, as would most of our science books and math books. Isaac Newton is dead. Shall we therefore discard what he wrote? Galileo is dead. Shall we therefore discard what he wrote? Clarence Darrow is past on. Shall we discard what he wrote? How about Supreme Ct Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes? Shall we discard the Gettysburg Address because Abe Lincoln is dead? How about the Founding Fathers? Is our Constitution useless because they are all deceased? The Rules of evidence in all 50 states allow the introduction of witness testimony. Of course, it is always wise to verify evidence with other testimony or cross examination, but that still leaves the original testimony for consideration by the judge or jury. We can verify evidence by examining the lives of the speaker to evaluate his credibility and this is useful for the bible. Was Moses an honest man? Were the apostles honest men? How about Matthew, John and Paul? The bible is evidence. It is witness testimony and in most cases, we know who wrote it. . that is not supported by any original documents - made during the events described - as non are in existence not to mention the christian bible was written over the period of an entire 4th century, 400 years past the events being recorded.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

When did the talking snakes go extinct?

See post no.9 for proof they didn't...lol

 

[Viktor]

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​ ​ View attachment 338951 May 20 (6 hours ago)​ The bible is evidence. It is witness testimony and in most cases, we know who wrote it. Shall we ignore evidence because the witness has died? How foolish! Using that standard, we would discard completely most libraries. All our history books would be rendered useless, as would most of our science books and math books. Isaac Newton is dead. Shall we therefore discard what he wrote? Galileo is dead. Shall we therefore discard what he wrote? Clarence Darrow is past on. Shall we discard what he wrote? How about Supreme Ct Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes? Shall we discard the Gettysburg Address because Abe Lincoln is dead? How about the Founding Fathers? Is our Constitution useless because they are all deceased? The Rules of evidence in all 50 states allow the introduction of witness testimony. Of course, it is always wise to verify evidence with other testimony or cross examination, but that still leaves the original testimony for consideration by the judge or jury. We can verify evidence by examining the lives of the speaker to evaluate his credibility and this is useful for the bible. Was Moses an honest man? Were the apostles honest men? How about Matthew, John and Paul? The bible is evidence. It is witness testimony and in most cases, we know who wrote it. . that is not supported by any original documents - made during the events described - as non are in existence not to mention the christian bible was written over the period of an entire 4th century, 400 years past the events being recorded.

There were no original documents.

 

[Viktor]

Not evidence either ...

View attachment 338952

That's not to say there isn't a lot of cool stuff in it ... but it's not meant to be taken literally.

Obviously, you have no education in law and don't understand evidence.

Actually, in my job, I do. A statement can be evidence. But, only if the person making the statement can be cross-examined in court. At the end of every statement used in evidence is a Jurat ... a written acknowledgement by the person giving the statement that it is fully factual under penalty of perjury.

Not always. Some courts permit introduction of affidavits without cross examination. This is often done in international law after a war when witnesses are hard to find. It was done at the Nuremberg Trials.

 

[harmonica]

Obviously, you have no education in law and don't understand evidence.

Obviously, you have no education in law and don't understand evidence.

Here are the Federal Rules of Evidence

Federal Rules of Evidence

www.law.cornell.edu

Read VI and VII

by the way, what's it evidence for, in your opinion only

 

[Viktor]

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The bible is evidence. It is witness testimony and in most cases, we know who wrote it. Shall we ignore evidence because the witness has died? How foolish! Using that standard, we would discard completely most libraries. All our history books would be rendered useless, as would most of our science books and math books. Isaac Newton is dead. Shall we therefore discard what he wrote?
Galileo is dead. Shall we therefore discard what he wrote?
Clarence Darrow is past on. Shall we discard what he wrote? How about Supreme Ct Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes?

Shall we discard the Gettysburg Address because Abe Lincoln is dead?
How about the Founding Fathers? Is our Constitution useless because they are all deceased?

The Rules of evidence in all 50 states allow the introduction of witness testimony. Of course, it is always wise to verify evidence with other testimony or cross examination, but that still leaves the original testimony for consideration by the judge or jury.

We can verify evidence by examining the lives of the speaker to evaluate his credibility and this is useful for the bible. Was Moses an honest man? Were the apostles honest men? How about Matthew, John and Paul?

hahahahhaha
the Gettysburg Address is not FACTS
you FKD up!!!!! yes--it's just like the GA--OPINION only..one man's OPINION--NOT evidence
hahahahahahahhahahaahah

It is facts. Lincoln summarized the battle and what it meant.

 

[Viktor]

Obviously, you have no education in law and don't understand evidence.

Obviously, you have no education in law and don't understand evidence.

Here are the Federal Rules of Evidence

Federal Rules of Evidence

www.law.cornell.edu

Read VI and VII

by the way, what's it evidence for, in your opinion only

That depends what it says

 

[harmonica]

​	View attachment 338951 May 20 (6 hours ago)​

The bible is evidence. It is witness testimony and in most cases, we know who wrote it. Shall we ignore evidence because the witness has died? How foolish! Using that standard, we would discard completely most libraries. All our history books would be rendered useless, as would most of our science books and math books. Isaac Newton is dead. Shall we therefore discard what he wrote?
Galileo is dead. Shall we therefore discard what he wrote?
Clarence Darrow is past on. Shall we discard what he wrote? How about Supreme Ct Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes?

Shall we discard the Gettysburg Address because Abe Lincoln is dead?
How about the Founding Fathers? Is our Constitution useless because they are all deceased?

The Rules of evidence in all 50 states allow the introduction of witness testimony. Of course, it is always wise to verify evidence with other testimony or cross examination, but that still leaves the original testimony for consideration by the judge or jury.

We can verify evidence by examining the lives of the speaker to evaluate his credibility and this is useful for the bible. Was Moses an honest man? Were the apostles honest men? How about Matthew, John and Paul?

no it's not

Read Article VI here:

Federal Rules of Evidence

www.law.cornell.edu

doesn't look like the bible to me

 

[harmonica]

..I went to a catholic pre-seminary and they even said it is a book of stories--not facts/etc

They aren't lawyers

hahahhahahahahahah..don't need to be..they are the experts on the bible --you are not

 

[Viktor]

​	View attachment 338951 May 20 (6 hours ago)​

The bible is evidence. It is witness testimony and in most cases, we know who wrote it. Shall we ignore evidence because the witness has died? How foolish! Using that standard, we would discard completely most libraries. All our history books would be rendered useless, as would most of our science books and math books. Isaac Newton is dead. Shall we therefore discard what he wrote?
Galileo is dead. Shall we therefore discard what he wrote?
Clarence Darrow is past on. Shall we discard what he wrote? How about Supreme Ct Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes?

Shall we discard the Gettysburg Address because Abe Lincoln is dead?
How about the Founding Fathers? Is our Constitution useless because they are all deceased?

The Rules of evidence in all 50 states allow the introduction of witness testimony. Of course, it is always wise to verify evidence with other testimony or cross examination, but that still leaves the original testimony for consideration by the judge or jury.

We can verify evidence by examining the lives of the speaker to evaluate his credibility and this is useful for the bible. Was Moses an honest man? Were the apostles honest men? How about Matthew, John and Paul?

no it's not

Read Article VI here:

Federal Rules of Evidence

www.law.cornell.edu

doesn't look like the bible to me

It's the Federal Rules of Evidence, which supports my claim at least in part.

 

[Newtonian]

Noah is also the second time that all humanity was born of sisters and brothers repeatedly reproducing. Things have changed, as today that would be genetically catastrophic, even impossible.

True. While all pre-flood peoples were closer to perfection, the narrowing of the gene pool at the flood forced harmful mutations out. The result was a drastic reduction in life span until finally at Moses' time incest became against the law. A case in point: Abraham married his half-sister.

 

[Newtonian]

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​ ​ View attachment 338951 May 20 (6 hours ago)​ The bible is evidence. It is witness testimony and in most cases, we know who wrote it. Shall we ignore evidence because the witness has died? How foolish! Using that standard, we would discard completely most libraries. All our history books would be rendered useless, as would most of our science books and math books. Isaac Newton is dead. Shall we therefore discard what he wrote? Galileo is dead. Shall we therefore discard what he wrote? Clarence Darrow is past on. Shall we discard what he wrote? How about Supreme Ct Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes? Shall we discard the Gettysburg Address because Abe Lincoln is dead? How about the Founding Fathers? Is our Constitution useless because they are all deceased? The Rules of evidence in all 50 states allow the introduction of witness testimony. Of course, it is always wise to verify evidence with other testimony or cross examination, but that still leaves the original testimony for consideration by the judge or jury. We can verify evidence by examining the lives of the speaker to evaluate his credibility and this is useful for the bible. Was Moses an honest man? Were the apostles honest men? How about Matthew, John and Paul? The bible is evidence. It is witness testimony and in most cases, we know who wrote it. . that is not supported by any original documents - made during the events described - as non are in existence not to mention the christian bible was written over the period of an entire 4th century, 400 years past the events being recorded.

There were no original documents.

I think you meant are not were. Bible manuscript family genealogy proves how the originals read. Add to that the many quotes of the Hebrew Scriptures in the Christian Greek Scriptures - for example: the greatest commandment in the Bible according to Jesus:

Mark 12:28-34
One of the scribes who had come up and heard them disputing, knowing that he had answered them in a fine way, asked him: “Which commandment is first* of all?”+ 29 Jesus answered: “The first is, ‘Hear, O Israel, Jehovah our God is one Jehovah, 30 and you must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind and with your whole strength.’+ 31 The second is this, ‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’+ There is no other commandment greater than these.” 32 The scribe said to him: “Teacher, you spoke well, in line with truth, ‘He is One, and there is no other besides him’;+ 33 and to love him with one’s whole heart, with one’s whole understanding, and with one’s whole strength and to love one’s neighbor as oneself is worth far more than all the whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.”+ 34 At this Jesus, discerning that he had answered intelligently, said to him: “You are not far from the Kingdom of God.” But no one had the courage to question him anymore.+

Quoting Deuteronomy 6:4,5
“Listen, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah.+ 5 You must love Jehovah your God with all your heart and all your soul*+ and all your strength.*+

However, there were errors made by copyists. The most glaring example is the occurrence of the Divine Name Jehovah 3 times in the above quote - most copies remove the Divine Name and substitute the title Lord. A specific example is the Jewish Greek Septuagint translation of the 2nd century BCE. Copies of the Septuagint (LXX) from before and during Jesus' time retain the Divine Name, but copies in the late second century began to substitute Greek kyrios/Lord for the Divine Name. This is, in part, documented in Origen's Hexapla.

Note that this error is repeated nearly 7,000 times in the Hebrew Scriptures in translations removing the Divine Name. Check out which translations have the Divine Name 3 times in Deuteronomy 6:4,5 and which ones have Lord 3 times in those verses.