The American Genocide of the Indians—Historical Facts and Real Evidence

[AZrailwhale]

I doubt that every much, based on the fact you lack a functioning brain.

I’m all for anarchy and recognize it isn’t without problems, but it’s far better than the shit show we have now.

YOU claiming someone lacks a functioning brain is rich. You never get anything you post correct.

 

[BothWings]

LOL....the indians lost to a superior enemy,simple as that.
They'd have done the same if they were capable.
Indian history is full of wars,torture,slavery and every other manner of savagery you can think of.
No they weren't the noble indians the left tries to paint them as,they were savages plain and simple.

It varied greatly by tribe. Some of them were bastards, for sure. The Iroquois were noted for tying your intestines to a tree and making you walk around it until they all came out. However, there were people in Europe who did that too. And some tribes like the Choctaw were peaceful and minded their own until somebody messed with them. They were known for being able to hold their own against aggressive tribes and nations, but until bothered they usually didn't start shit with other groups.

 

[AZrailwhale]

The Indians had practically no technology compared to the europeans

Some did, the Cherokee were about at the same level as the Europeans at first, farming, civilized government, effective weapons for their area and slavery. But that was the seventeenth century, but they adopted European methods and generally weren't distinctive from their European neighbors.

 

[Mushroom]

And there are still millions of Jews but the Nazis genocided the hell out of them.

In Germany?

There were over half a million Jews in Germany in 1933. By 1945, there were only around 8,000. Then there are the other 6 million in Europe in other countries (like Poland) that they did the same thing to. There are just over 100,000 in Germany today. There were more Jews living in Berlin in 1933 than the entire German Jewish population in 2025.

That is what genocide looks like. If a group survives and increases, it is as a diaspora where the group leaves where they are being slaughtered. And interestingly, many of the Jews that resettled in Germany after WWII were themselves not German. The Soviets expelled tens of thousands from nations they occupied to Germany. Most to East Germany to work rebuilding after the war, many of which then simply moved on to West Germany.

There was never a large "American Indian Diaspora" to other nations, the vast majority of us still live right here in the US to this day.

 

[AZrailwhale]

That's partially correct.

Which part is incorrect?

 

[Mushroom]

However, there were people in Europe who did that too.

Like the Blood Eagle of Viking sagas. Or the Brazen Bull. Or the "Bog Bodies" found all over Europe.

No matter where in the world you find humans, they were always able to find novel ways to kill each other.

 

[BothWings]

Like the Blood Eagle of Viking sagas. Or the Brazen Bull. Or the "Bog Bodies" found all over Europe.

No matter where in the world you find humans, they were always able to find novel ways to kill each other.

Thanks! I also use bog bodies to make my point with people about what scum most human groups could or can be.

 

[Zincwarrior]

In Germany?

There were over half a million Jews in Germany in 1933. By 1945, there were only around 8,000. Then there are the other 6 million in Europe in other countries (like Poland) that they did the same thing to. There are just over 100,000 in Germany today. There were more Jews living in Berlin in 1933 than the entire German Jewish population in 2025.

That is what genocide looks like. If a group survives and increases, it is as a diaspora where the group leaves where they are being slaughtered. And interestingly, many of the Jews that resettled in Germany after WWII were themselves not German. The Soviets expelled tens of thousands from nations they occupied to Germany. Most to East Germany to work rebuilding after the war, many of which then simply moved on to West Germany.

There was never a large "American Indian Diaspora" to other nations, the vast majority of us still live right here in the US to this day.

Now tell me about the Trail of Tears and routine successive forced resettlement of tribes across the US. How many Waapanoags survived Prince Phillips War?

I have no dog in the hunt of what previous generations did. Its history. But my eyes are also open to that history.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Like the Blood Eagle of Viking sagas. Or the Brazen Bull. Or the "Bog Bodies" found all over Europe.

No matter where in the world you find humans, they were always able to find novel ways to kill each other.

Next up, the moon!

 

[Mushroom]

The Indians had practically no technology compared to the europeans

They very much did.

The biggest problem in the Americas is primarily down to fauna, and an excess of native resources.

Without beasts of burden, they were never able to develop the kind of farming that Eurasia saw. They had very sophisticated agriculture, as can be seen in corn and potatoes. Carefully domesticated and evolved so they are almost unrecognizable from their wild origins. Also they had some sophisticated metal work and stone work that was never seen in Africa or Eurasia among cultures of similar technological eras.

Remember, the classical pyramids in Egypt were created by a late Bronze Age people. Meanwhile, in the Americas several cultures were building similarly impressive stone structures while limited to Cooper Age technologies. And once things like the horse, cow and smelting were introduced to them, look how fast they took them up and ran with them themselves.

But in the end, it always boils down to the fauna and native copper. And even with those, they advanced far farther than any culture in Africa and Eurasia ever did at the same level of technology.

By your claim, Iran and Iraq had no technology compared to the US.

 

[Soupnazi630]

The white man killed millions of Buffalo, behave yourself.

So did the natives learn some history

 

[Mushroom]

Now tell me about the Trail of Tears and routine successive forced resettlement of tribes across the US.

Interesting you mention that, that is why my closest ancestors come from Oklahoma and not Michigan.

However, there are more of my distant ancestors still in Michigan and the surrounding area than there are in Oklahoma.

Not all tribes and groups were relocated. Just the ones that did not stop fighting the Europeans after they arrived. The ones that did not take part in the several wars against the "Americans" are still living on their land in Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, and Wisconsin. The ones that continued to fight were relocated to Oklahoma.

Just as not all Cherokee were relocated to Oklahoma. That was just the most warlike bands, there are still a hell of a lot of Cherokee in the Carolinas to this day.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

They very much did.

The biggest problem in the Americas is primarily down to fauna, and an excess of native resources.

Without beasts of burden, they were never able to develop the kind of farming that Eurasia saw. They had very sophisticated agriculture, as can be seen in corn and potatoes. Carefully domesticated and evolved so they are almost unrecognizable from their wild origins. Also they had some sophisticated metal work and stone work that was never seen in Africa or Eurasia among cultures of similar technological eras.

Remember, the classical pyramids in Egypt were created by a late Bronze Age people. Meanwhile, in the Americas several cultures were building similarly impressive stone structures while limited to Cooper Age technologies. And once things like the horse, cow and smelting were introduced to them, look how fast they took them up and ran with them themselves.

But in the end, it always boils down to the fauna and native copper. And even with those, they advanced far farther than any culture in Africa and Eurasia ever did at the same level of technology.

By your claim, Iran and Iraq had no technology compared to the US.

No, they did not. They did not have the metallurgy of the day, or the gunpower industry, or ship building, banking, etc.

They were a stone age people that were ran straight over by modern technology and human ruthlessness.

 

[Mac-7]

They very much did.

The biggest problem in the Americas is primarily down to fauna, and an excess of native resources.

Without beasts of burden, they were never able to develop the kind of farming that Eurasia saw. They had very sophisticated agriculture, as can be seen in corn and potatoes. Carefully domesticated and evolved so they are almost unrecognizable from their wild origins. Also they had some sophisticated metal work and stone work that was never seen in Africa or Eurasia among cultures of similar technological eras.

Remember, the classical pyramids in Egypt were created by a late Bronze Age people. Meanwhile, in the Americas several cultures were building similarly impressive stone structures while limited to Cooper Age technologies. And once things like the horse, cow and smelting were introduced to them, look how fast they took them up and ran with them themselves.

But in the end, it always boils down to the fauna and native copper. And even with those, they advanced far farther than any culture in Africa and Eurasia ever did at the same level of technology.

By your claim, Iran and Iraq had no technology compared to the US.

Indians did not have the wheel or gunpowder

 

[Mac-7]

Indians did not have the wheel or gunpowder

And they were not organized

There was no great leader prior to the Euro invasion to sweep across north America and unite the people under one man

The europeans however had many great warriors and politicians sharpening their brand, often against each other

So given all the disadvantages they had the natives were easy pickings

 

[gipper]

YOU claiming someone lacks a functioning brain is rich. You never get anything you post correct.

Yeah because I oppose all war, government, and genocide. You support those horrible things, but I’m the dumb one.

Orwell lives in you.

 

[MarathonMike]

You’re stating support for war crimes, but too dumb to know it.

What I know is the concept of "war crimes" did not even EXIST until 1899. You keep trying to label me as dumb and you don't even understand historical timelines. Go do some research before you make more of a fool of yourself.

 

[gipper]

What I know is the concept of "war crimes" did not even EXIST until 1899. You keep trying to label me as dumb and you don't even understand historical timelines. Go do some research before you make more of a fool of yourself.

You think total war is acceptable. To you anything goes in war. You know nothing about the Geneva Conventions.

You know nothing of the wars fought in Europe for centuries, where the combatants did their best to avoid civilian casualties.

The Confederacy during the War of Northern Aggression demanded their troops refrain from harming civilians. Your great beloved Lincoln used total war tactics against the south.

Read a book for once.

 

[Yarddog]

Wrong.
Native Americans did some war, but more as a sport, and they did not do torture or slavery.
To be really savage at war, you need agricultural surpluses, privatize land, currency, and a mercenary class.
The Native Americans did none of these in any significant way.

They did not do torture or slavery? are you sure of that? havent you ever heard of the Comanche? Not only did they torture but they also did slave trading. They also invaded Mexico.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

They did not do torture or slavery? are you sure of that? havent you ever heard of the Comanche? Not only did they torture but they also did slave trading. They also invaded Mexico.

Yes, they did torture and enslave. All humans have for millennia until stopping some of that over the last 150 years. We fought the Comanche desperately to keep them to the east. My people, like the whites, tooks slaves, particularly Mexican women. They were better slaves and companions than white women or other indigenous women.