I suspect not one American in 500 knows about the Massacre of 1622.

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A forgotten massacre.

Yeah, the natives weren't all cuddly, now were they. In fact, before European settlements, they were at war with one another all across the New World.

On this day, 406 years ago, the Powhatan Indians, who had been working peacefully with the Jamestown settlers, came among them as usual, but slaughtered every man, woman, and child they could.

Death toll: 347, a quarter of the English population.

I suspect not one American in 500 knows about the Massacre of 1622.


 
A forgotten massacre.

Yeah, the natives weren't all cuddly, now were they. In fact, before European settlements, they were at war with one another all across the New World.

On this day, 406 years ago, the Powhatan Indians, who had been working peacefully with the Jamestown settlers, came among them as usual, but slaughtered every man, woman, and child they could.
Death toll: 347, a quarter of the English population.
I suspect not one American in 500 knows about the Massacre of 1622.



The indians brought it on themselves. Their extreme barbarism guaranteed that we would have to virtually wipe them out. There is a reason they were called "savages", and it isnt because they were peaceful victims of the evil white man. Native Americans were among the worst humans that Earth has ever produced. Even the women in the tribes would gleefully torture men, women and children.

Dont feed me any romanticized bullshit about the "noble savage". They werent noble, they were f***ing awful.
 
A forgotten massacre.

Yeah, the natives weren't all cuddly, now were they. In fact, before European settlements, they were at war with one another all across the New World.

On this day, 406 years ago, the Powhatan Indians, who had been working peacefully with the Jamestown settlers, came among them as usual, but slaughtered every man, woman, and child they could.
Death toll: 347, a quarter of the English population.
I suspect not one American in 500 knows about the Massacre of 1622.



I knew there were massacres but not that particular one. Thanks.
 
The crusades and the Native American-European wars are probably the most misunderstood and propagandized in history. With the way most people teach and understand these, you'd think they were one-sided black-and-white genocides against brown people, but this is not the case. In both of these conflicts there was massacre and bloodshed on both sides, they were amoral grey areas. This wasn't a cartoon like the Marvel films, it was real life, and most conflicts are like this than they aren't.
 
The indians brought it on themselves. Their extreme barbarism guaranteed that we would have to virtually wipe them out. There is a reason they were called "savages", and it isnt because they were peaceful victims of the evil white man. Native Americans were among the worst humans that Earth has ever produced. Even the women in the tribes would gleefully torture men, women and children.

Dont feed me any romanticized bullshit about the "noble savage". They werent noble, they were f***ing awful.
Whites Who Are Born Rich Hate and Fear All Other White People

That's why, like their relatives who followed Genghis Khan, they were kicked out of the civilized areas of Asia. And "noble" should never be used in praise. The nobility was just as degenerate, except that it had the intelligence to be organized.
 
The indians brought it on themselves. Their extreme barbarism guaranteed that we would have to virtually wipe them out. There is a reason they were called "savages", and it isnt because they were peaceful victims of the evil white man. Native Americans were among the worst humans that Earth has ever produced. Even the women in the tribes would gleefully torture men, women and children.

Dont feed me any romanticized bullshit about the "noble savage". They werent noble, they were f***ing awful.
What a bunch of crap. Early colonists had a problem. Native Americans would raid their villages and often times, kidnap their children. It happened to Roger Williams. So the colonist would send out men to recapture the kids. The problem, once they got there, the kids refused to go back with them. Again, happened to Roger Williams.
 
Stone-age Tribal Americans could still be living their nomadic lifestyle, even to this day, had they not insisted on demonstrating to the English and European settlers that human life meant very little to them and that killing was a sport.

If they had confined that particular "sport" to other tribal Americans, the American Settlers would have looked at them with paternal tolerance of a differing set of values.
 
Stone-age Tribal Americans could still be living their nomadic lifestyle, even to this day, had they not insisted on demonstrating to the English and European settlers that human life meant very little to them and that killing was a sport.

If they had confined that particular "sport" to other tribal Americans, the American Settlers would have looked at them with paternal tolerance of a differing set of values.
Multiple tribes were quite evolved. Mississippi civilization, Kickapoo, Cherokee, Hopi, etc.
 
Multiple tribes were quite evolved. Mississippi civilization, Kickapoo, Cherokee, Hopi, etc.
Some of them had learned to farm. Some even learned to govern. The Aztecs and the Mayans were evolved into full-fledged city-states. But they still held human life very cheaply.

Were the Kickapoo and the Cherokee evolved enough not to engage in tribal combat and not to attack white settlers?
 
If thats your standard then no one one the planet is evolved.

A reminder the white Spanish started it.
I speak about the English settlers who brought civilization to North East America and eventually founded the greatest nation on Earth.

Of course they were not going to be stymied by caveless cavemen who raided their settlements for children and for whiskey.
 
I speak about the English settlers who brought civilization to North East America and eventually founded the greatest nation on Earth.

Of course they were not going to be stymied by caveless cavemen who raided their settlements for children and for whiskey.
You mean the English who were killing everyone around them on multiple continents?
 
You mean the English who were killing everyone around them on multiple continents?
The English settlers in America were not killing everyone around them, and the American tribal people knew nothing of any English misadventures on other continents.
 
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There were NA attacks in the Shenandoah Valley as late as the French and Indian War.


Last Attack​

By 1764 the Indian attacks on settlers in the Virginia frontier had nearly ended, but a formal peace agreement with the return of captives was not arranged until 1766, the year of the last recorded incident.

The incident took place about two miles south of Woodstock along Route 11near Narrow Passage Creek. The Sheetz and Taylor families were on their way to either Miller’s Fort or the fort-like Sheetz Mill when they were attacked by five Indians. The men were killed but the women managed to fight off their attackers with axes. Several of the Indians were wounded and the group fled, leaving the women and children to make their way to the fort.

There's a State marker there that recounts the event.

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A forgotten massacre.

Yeah, the natives weren't all cuddly, now were they. In fact, before European settlements, they were at war with one another all across the New World.

On this day, 406 years ago, the Powhatan Indians, who had been working peacefully with the Jamestown settlers, came among them as usual, but slaughtered every man, woman, and child they could.
Death toll: 347, a quarter of the English population.
I suspect not one American in 500 knows about the Massacre of 1622.



Their math ain't mathin'. 1622 was 404 years ago.
 
Stone-age Tribal Americans could still be living their nomadic lifestyle, even to this day, had they not insisted on demonstrating to the English and European settlers that human life meant very little to them and that killing was a sport.

If they had confined that particular "sport" to other tribal Americans, the American Settlers would have looked at them with paternal tolerance of a differing set of values.
You have no idea then how barbaric Europe was at that time, and then during the colonial times in North America.

There was no one side better than the other. The colonists had no sense of "paternal tolerance" at all. You cannot present any evidence to that point.
 
400....4000.....40,000? .....either way we're a race with amnesia.......~S~
 
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