The American Genocide of the Indians—Historical Facts and Real Evidence

[Deadstick]

The natives killed more than what they needed.

They were no better they only had limitations on technology.

The white man killed millions of Buffalo, behave yourself.

 

[AZrailwhale]

That is not what I have read.
Alexander the Great never used a starvation tactic by wiping out an important food source.
It would take too long.
Alexander the Great did not live long enough for slow tactics like that.
When Alexander the Great invaded Afghanistan, it was because at that time it was Persian.
And he simply defeated the Persian army.

Starvation is a foolish tactic because it eliminates your workforce and their wealth.

You've never heard of siege warfare? The whole point was starving the population of a city into surrendering. AFTER that came mass rape and murder during the "intaking" by the attackers.

 

[MarathonMike]

Sure, and the Zionists are treating the Palestinians in a wonderful way.

Another day another false equivalence.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Wow. You got this right.

Now do you find what Spain and GB did to the natives abhorrent or just a natural process?

My modern sensibilities find it abhorrent, but the realistic part of me realizes that it was the way of the world back then. The Spanish had just ended a savage war against the Muslims expelling them from conquered Spain and their idea of conduct had been framed by that. You might as well criticize the Romans and Greeks for having slaves and killing enemies. Any reasonable person judges the conduct of historical figures by the mores of their time, NOT by modern standards.

 

[AZrailwhale]

It would have been the other way around had the invaders not had superior weaponry.

Actually weaponry had little to do with it. In the old-growth forests of the Eastern Seaboard bows were superior weapons to flintlock or matchlock muskets. The Europeans had superior social systems.

 

[Deadstick]

It would have been the other way around had the invaders not had superior weaponry.

Would it? and what do you base that on? most settlers were European Colonialists like we saw all over the world, they had one thing in common the annihilation of the indigenous people, King Leopold almost killed all the people in Congo, other Europeans did the same, it was no different in America blaming the victims isn't a good look.

 

[gipper]

It would have been the other way around had the invaders not had superior weaponry.

Wrong. Stop believing propaganda.

If you bothered to do any research other than believing the superficial provided by Statists, you’d know Columbus and others of his expedition of destruction wrote extensively of the kindness and compassion the natives showed him and his merry band of murderers. They even marveled at the lack of weapons the natives carried, making it easy for them to murder and enslave.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Whatever gave you the idea that war is moral? War is immoral at its best, the only excuse for war is the alternative is often worse.

What is your point? The strongest win? OK.

But as far as immorality goes, ask those at Nuremberg about the consequences.

 

[Deadstick]

My modern sensibilities find it abhorrent, but the realistic part of me realizes that it was the way of the world back then. The Spanish had just ended a savage war against the Muslims expelling them from conquered Spain and their idea of conduct had been framed by that. You might as well criticize the Romans and Greeks for having slaves and killing enemies. Any reasonable person judges the conduct of historical figures by the mores of their time, NOT by modern standards.

Problem is many of those Europeans still have the same Colonial mentality.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Would it? and what do you base that on? most settlers were European Colonialists like we saw all over the world, they had one thing in common the annihilation of the indigenous people, King Leopold almost killed all the people in Congo, other Europeans did the same, it was no different in America blaming the victims isn't a good look.

Or Russians going east to Siberia.

 

[gipper]

My modern sensibilities find it abhorrent, but the realistic part of me realizes that it was the way of the world back then. The Spanish had just ended a savage war against the Muslims expelling them from conquered Spain and their idea of conduct had been framed by that. You might as well criticize the Romans and Greeks for having slaves and killing enemies. Any reasonable person judges the conduct of historical figures by the mores of their time, NOT by modern standards.

Yeah it’s just the way it is. So we must accept it and allow it to continue.

If human nature is so deadly, why do you support granting authority to humans running government?

I’m certain this boggles your mind.

 

[MarathonMike]

You’re so dumb you want to return to the dark ages.

Ever heard of the Geneva Conventions?

I am stating a FACT about world history that includes the conquering of the American Indians. I see that went over your head, do you understand now?

 

[AZrailwhale]

The white man killed millions of Buffalo, behave yourself.

My great-grandmother was Comanche. She described buffalo hunts when she was a child where they stampeded herds of Buffalo over cliffs or into ravines by the thousands and only took the skins, horn, sinew and choice cuts of meat leaving the rest for vermin or to rot. You don't kill a massive animal like a Buffalo with a relatively weak horse bow. The average draw of most horse bows were thirty to fifty pounds. Some horn and sinew reinforced bows could range up to seventy pounds. Even with a reinforced bow, it would take thirty or more shafts to kill something as massive as a buffalo excluding the "golden BB". Arrows don't have the shocking power of a bullet and do far less damage to the target.

 

[Mac-7]

If your ancestors incurred such unbelievable injustice and genocide, you’d be obsessed with it too.

Think dumb ass.

It was common practice all over the world in that era

However America does not do that anymore

 

[AZrailwhale]

Yeah it’s just the way it is. So we must accept it and allow it to continue.

If human nature is so deadly, why do you support granting authority to humans running government?

I’m certain this boggles your mind.

So you are one of the idiots who believe that man is a moral creature? Homo Sapiens is a savage and has risen to the top of the food chain by killing or destroying any threat. Modern morality is a VERY thin veneer over our savage nature.

 

[Deadstick]

Or Russians going east to Siberia.

Ivan the terrible in the 16th Century, well you can't blame Putin for that one.

 

[gipper]

It was common practice all over the world in that era

However America does not do that anymore

So dumb. Your criminal government supports a genocide in Gaza, a war of extermination in Ukraine, and a terrorist in Syria. To say nothing of decades of war and destruction throughout the world, for the benefit of the global elite.

Nothing has changed. If only you could overcome the brainwashing you suffered grade school.

 

[gipper]

I am stating a FACT about world history that includes the conquering of the American Indians. I see that went over your head, do you understand now?

You’re stating support for war crimes, but too dumb to know it.

 

[gipper]

So you are one of the idiots who believe that man is a moral creature? Homo Sapiens is a savage and has risen to the top of the food chain by killing or destroying any threat. Modern morality is a VERY thin veneer over our savage nature.

Projection!

I know man’s nature so I don’t support granting authority to others, but you do.

 

[Mac-7]

That is an understatement. He is was happens when one watches Fox News 24/7.

I actually have great sympathy for the losers of the Indian Wars

They were a Stone Age culture up against the world’s most modern and technological new force

They never had a chance to win and lost their way of life to be replaced by the first welfare system

Just as welfare destroys the incentive of modern Americans, the Indians were the first victims of wipe-every-nose liberalism