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IF they ask. You're assuming they're all dying to do so, and are somehow being utterly blocked from any and all contact with healthcare professionals. You're insane.
Living in poverty, living in low income areas, are barriers to improving ones health and education.
so how do we get people out of poverty? by giving them free stuff or by creating a job for them?
By expanding services to people in low income areas to help them get on their feet. Also many people who are poor are actually disabled or mentally ill. They need help in many ways and are not receiving it.
The other way of course is growing the economy. Boosting quarterly real GDP growth. Most economist agree that in order to get to sustained 3% real GDP growth annually, we need to increase immigration into the country and stop the war and deportation on so called "illegals". The United States is suffering an ever expanding labor shortage which is going to put a damper on economic growth which will only hurt the poor and middle class even more.
The United States also needs to raise taxes on the rich, their income, capital gains, property and estates, and reinvest that money in education and building economic growth in depressed areas.
So you think the government can create jobs better than the free market? So did Marx, Lenin, Castro, Mao, and Stalin.
you also agree with them on punishing the rich for being successful, your socialist idols say, "well done comrade"
I didn't say that. I did say that the government can help the private sector. It can also help people and areas that the private sector often leaves behind.
The rich earn their money from the MARKET which they did not create, they were just born into it. I believe in helping protect and grow the market which means the rich must return a good portion of the earnings to do that since they profit the most from it. Its NOT punishment, its helping to keep the MARKET going so that there can be new Billionaires well into the future. We also want a competitive environment, not one where the rich are able to stamp out all competition through monopoly. One of the best things about capitalism is free and fair competition. The more competitive the market is the better. The Rich threaten that competition when they achieve to much power, and monopoly over certain markets, and use that advantage to crush competition to their personal benefit but to societies detriment.
or they could just use common sense and eat sensibly. Why do you need a doctor to tell you not to eat big macs 3 times a day?
the people of Scandinavia aren't healthy because of socialized medicine, they are healthy because its their cultural heritage.
its amazing how you libs see more government as the solution to all the ills of mankind, including individual stupidity.
Its amazing how some people will resist every attempt to help people because it somehow violates their political ideology. My goal here is to help people and improve life expectancy. Your goal seems to be to simply oppose anything having to do with the government.
Ok, just a few points on your foolish post:
everyone wants to help people, not just socialist liberals.
no one in the USA is currently being denied medical care,
no one in the USA was denied medical care before obamacare
Life expectancy in the USA has declined because of drug use and suicide and abortions, not lack of medical care
government is the least efficient way to solve any issue, do you really want VA type care for everyone?
The USA is where new medical advances are being found, not the wonderful "50 most developed countries" as you claim
your "holier than thou" attitude is typical of liberals, you claim to love everyone, but express hate in every comment
socialism has never worked, and it has been tried in many places, the result is always tyranny, oppression, and murder.
01. I'm not a socialist liberal. I'm a Republican, Bush/McCain Republican. I've voted for straight Republican ticket in every election until 2016. Hillary Clinton was the first person I ever voted for who was not a Republican.
02. When you don't have health insurance, the hospital won't perform that expensive procedure on you. When the poor and lower class pay out of pocket for medical care, it often ruins them financially. Pharmacies when give you your medicine for free if you don't have the money to pay for it. Many people have to choose between eating food or taking their medication. THESE ARE ALL EXAMPLES OF DENIAL OF MEDICAL CARE AND IT IMPACTS LIFE EXPECTANCY!
03. Before Obamacare, more people suffered the situations seen in #2. No one should have to decide between paying for the care and upkeep of their family and whether to see the doctor or get a medical procedure. These are often difficult choices that people who are poor or lower class are faced with.
04. Life Expectancy has not actually declined in the United States but its only 34th in the world despite the fact that the United States spends more per person on medical care than any other country in the world. #1 spender on healthcare but only 34th in the world for life expectancy is a terrible record.
05. The United States Military is probably the most efficient and respected organization in the world. Its #1 at what it does, unlike the for profit healthcare industry in the United States that ranks at a dismal #34. There is no other institution in the United States that American citizens respect more than the United States military. Although the government is not the most successful and efficient on all issues or situations, it is in many areas and the United States Military is a bright shining example of this. Having the government take over U.S. healthcare will drive down cost, expand coverage to all citizens, and send U.S. life expectancy sky rocketing towards the top of the list.
06. New advances in medical technology continue all over the world and they won't stop with a change in the U.S. healthcare system. The people who discover and make the most advances are those dedicated to the science and helping people, NOT those who are dedicated to profiting off sick and dying people.
07. I've been called names dozens of times in this thread, and cursed at. I don't engage in that behavior in return. Advocating for my view point is not a form of hate towards anyone. Again, I'm a Republican, not a Democrat.
08. I've never suggested that the United States should become a socialist country. I still believe in the free market, Billionaires, and Big Business. But I don't believe in for profit healthcare. Healthcare should be regulated by the government because it will reduce cost, cover everyone, and increase life expectancy. I also believe that the top federal tax rate should return to 70% as it was always at or above in the United States from 1945 to 1980. Having a top federal tax rate does not make the country a socialist country. The United States was not a socialist country from 1945 to 1980.
09. Finally, even Richard Nixon advocated for Universal Healthcare.
nice rant, but not a word of fact in it, except the Nixon claim. But Nixon was run out of the whitehouse due to his own stupidity, hardly a person to be proud of.
Oh there were plenty of facts in there, and far more than anything you have offered up.
Living in poverty, living in low income areas, are barriers to improving ones health and education.
so how do we get people out of poverty? by giving them free stuff or by creating a job for them?
By expanding services to people in low income areas to help them get on their feet. Also many people who are poor are actually disabled or mentally ill. They need help in many ways and are not receiving it.
The other way of course is growing the economy. Boosting quarterly real GDP growth. Most economist agree that in order to get to sustained 3% real GDP growth annually, we need to increase immigration into the country and stop the war and deportation on so called "illegals". The United States is suffering an ever expanding labor shortage which is going to put a damper on economic growth which will only hurt the poor and middle class even more.
The United States also needs to raise taxes on the rich, their income, capital gains, property and estates, and reinvest that money in education and building economic growth in depressed areas.
So you think the government can create jobs better than the free market? So did Marx, Lenin, Castro, Mao, and Stalin.
you also agree with them on punishing the rich for being successful, your socialist idols say, "well done comrade"
I didn't say that. I did say that the government can help the private sector. It can also help people and areas that the private sector often leaves behind.
The rich earn their money from the MARKET which they did not create, they were just born into it. I believe in helping protect and grow the market which means the rich must return a good portion of the earnings to do that since they profit the most from it. Its NOT punishment, its helping to keep the MARKET going so that there can be new Billionaires well into the future. We also want a competitive environment, not one where the rich are able to stamp out all competition through monopoly. One of the best things about capitalism is free and fair competition. The more competitive the market is the better. The Rich threaten that competition when they achieve to much power, and monopoly over certain markets, and use that advantage to crush competition to their personal benefit but to societies detriment.
your paragraph in bold could come directly from the communist manifesto. you, and they, want the government to regulate commerce and to choose winners and losers instead of letting the free market do it.
Nothing the government can ever do will make everyone equally successful, but it can make everyone equally miserable. Venezuela is the latest example of the result of the policies that you are pushing.
Living in poverty, living in low income areas, are barriers to improving ones health and education.
so how do we get people out of poverty? by giving them free stuff or by creating a job for them?
By expanding services to people in low income areas to help them get on their feet. Also many people who are poor are actually disabled or mentally ill. They need help in many ways and are not receiving it.
The other way of course is growing the economy. Boosting quarterly real GDP growth. Most economist agree that in order to get to sustained 3% real GDP growth annually, we need to increase immigration into the country and stop the war and deportation on so called "illegals". The United States is suffering an ever expanding labor shortage which is going to put a damper on economic growth which will only hurt the poor and middle class even more.
The United States also needs to raise taxes on the rich, their income, capital gains, property and estates, and reinvest that money in education and building economic growth in depressed areas.
So you think the government can create jobs better than the free market? So did Marx, Lenin, Castro, Mao, and Stalin.
you also agree with them on punishing the rich for being successful, your socialist idols say, "well done comrade"
I didn't say that. I did say that the government can help the private sector. It can also help people and areas that the private sector often leaves behind.
The rich earn their money from the MARKET which they did not create, they were just born into it. I believe in helping protect and grow the market which means the rich must return a good portion of the earnings to do that since they profit the most from it. Its NOT punishment, its helping to keep the MARKET going so that there can be new Billionaires well into the future. We also want a competitive environment, not one where the rich are able to stamp out all competition through monopoly. One of the best things about capitalism is free and fair competition. The more competitive the market is the better. The Rich threaten that competition when they achieve to much power, and monopoly over certain markets, and use that advantage to crush competition to their personal benefit but to societies detriment.
your paragraph in bold could come directly from the communist manifesto. you, and they, want the government to regulate commerce and to choose winners and losers instead of letting the free market do it.
Nothing the government can ever do will make everyone equally successful, but it can make everyone equally miserable. Venezuela is the latest example of the result of the policies that you are pushing.
It's fucking communism. "Aiding" or "supporting" the market is not capitalism, moron. Roosevelt and Truman were a couple of fucking commies. They certainly loved hiring communists into their administrations.so how do we get people out of poverty? by giving them free stuff or by creating a job for them?
By expanding services to people in low income areas to help them get on their feet. Also many people who are poor are actually disabled or mentally ill. They need help in many ways and are not receiving it.
The other way of course is growing the economy. Boosting quarterly real GDP growth. Most economist agree that in order to get to sustained 3% real GDP growth annually, we need to increase immigration into the country and stop the war and deportation on so called "illegals". The United States is suffering an ever expanding labor shortage which is going to put a damper on economic growth which will only hurt the poor and middle class even more.
The United States also needs to raise taxes on the rich, their income, capital gains, property and estates, and reinvest that money in education and building economic growth in depressed areas.
So you think the government can create jobs better than the free market? So did Marx, Lenin, Castro, Mao, and Stalin.
you also agree with them on punishing the rich for being successful, your socialist idols say, "well done comrade"
I didn't say that. I did say that the government can help the private sector. It can also help people and areas that the private sector often leaves behind.
The rich earn their money from the MARKET which they did not create, they were just born into it. I believe in helping protect and grow the market which means the rich must return a good portion of the earnings to do that since they profit the most from it. Its NOT punishment, its helping to keep the MARKET going so that there can be new Billionaires well into the future. We also want a competitive environment, not one where the rich are able to stamp out all competition through monopoly. One of the best things about capitalism is free and fair competition. The more competitive the market is the better. The Rich threaten that competition when they achieve to much power, and monopoly over certain markets, and use that advantage to crush competition to their personal benefit but to societies detriment.
your paragraph in bold could come directly from the communist manifesto. you, and they, want the government to regulate commerce and to choose winners and losers instead of letting the free market do it.
Nothing the government can ever do will make everyone equally successful, but it can make everyone equally miserable. Venezuela is the latest example of the result of the policies that you are pushing.
Suggesting that the government aid and support the MARKET is NOT Communism. Its the form of Capitalism promoted by Roosevelt and Truman as the opposite of Communism.
The goal is not to make everyone equally successful. The goal is to increase the wealth of the country without leaving people behind in poverty. Making sure a child is fed, safe, and has healthcare is NOT communism.
Its amazing how some people will resist every attempt to help people because it somehow violates their political ideology. My goal here is to help people and improve life expectancy. Your goal seems to be to simply oppose anything having to do with the government.
Ok, just a few points on your foolish post:
everyone wants to help people, not just socialist liberals.
no one in the USA is currently being denied medical care,
no one in the USA was denied medical care before obamacare
Life expectancy in the USA has declined because of drug use and suicide and abortions, not lack of medical care
government is the least efficient way to solve any issue, do you really want VA type care for everyone?
The USA is where new medical advances are being found, not the wonderful "50 most developed countries" as you claim
your "holier than thou" attitude is typical of liberals, you claim to love everyone, but express hate in every comment
socialism has never worked, and it has been tried in many places, the result is always tyranny, oppression, and murder.
01. I'm not a socialist liberal. I'm a Republican, Bush/McCain Republican. I've voted for straight Republican ticket in every election until 2016. Hillary Clinton was the first person I ever voted for who was not a Republican.
02. When you don't have health insurance, the hospital won't perform that expensive procedure on you. When the poor and lower class pay out of pocket for medical care, it often ruins them financially. Pharmacies when give you your medicine for free if you don't have the money to pay for it. Many people have to choose between eating food or taking their medication. THESE ARE ALL EXAMPLES OF DENIAL OF MEDICAL CARE AND IT IMPACTS LIFE EXPECTANCY!
03. Before Obamacare, more people suffered the situations seen in #2. No one should have to decide between paying for the care and upkeep of their family and whether to see the doctor or get a medical procedure. These are often difficult choices that people who are poor or lower class are faced with.
04. Life Expectancy has not actually declined in the United States but its only 34th in the world despite the fact that the United States spends more per person on medical care than any other country in the world. #1 spender on healthcare but only 34th in the world for life expectancy is a terrible record.
05. The United States Military is probably the most efficient and respected organization in the world. Its #1 at what it does, unlike the for profit healthcare industry in the United States that ranks at a dismal #34. There is no other institution in the United States that American citizens respect more than the United States military. Although the government is not the most successful and efficient on all issues or situations, it is in many areas and the United States Military is a bright shining example of this. Having the government take over U.S. healthcare will drive down cost, expand coverage to all citizens, and send U.S. life expectancy sky rocketing towards the top of the list.
06. New advances in medical technology continue all over the world and they won't stop with a change in the U.S. healthcare system. The people who discover and make the most advances are those dedicated to the science and helping people, NOT those who are dedicated to profiting off sick and dying people.
07. I've been called names dozens of times in this thread, and cursed at. I don't engage in that behavior in return. Advocating for my view point is not a form of hate towards anyone. Again, I'm a Republican, not a Democrat.
08. I've never suggested that the United States should become a socialist country. I still believe in the free market, Billionaires, and Big Business. But I don't believe in for profit healthcare. Healthcare should be regulated by the government because it will reduce cost, cover everyone, and increase life expectancy. I also believe that the top federal tax rate should return to 70% as it was always at or above in the United States from 1945 to 1980. Having a top federal tax rate does not make the country a socialist country. The United States was not a socialist country from 1945 to 1980.
09. Finally, even Richard Nixon advocated for Universal Healthcare.
nice rant, but not a word of fact in it, except the Nixon claim. But Nixon was run out of the whitehouse due to his own stupidity, hardly a person to be proud of.
Oh there were plenty of facts in there, and far more than anything you have offered up.
OK, lets just address your number 6. Medical advances. Give us a list of the recent medical advances that have come from countries with socialized medicine. Places like Russia, China, Denmark, Norway, Cuba. Then you can list the major medical facilities in those countries that compare with Mayo Clinic, MD Anderson, Cleveland clinic, Ochsner clinic, Sloan Kettering, etc.
so how do we get people out of poverty? by giving them free stuff or by creating a job for them?
By expanding services to people in low income areas to help them get on their feet. Also many people who are poor are actually disabled or mentally ill. They need help in many ways and are not receiving it.
The other way of course is growing the economy. Boosting quarterly real GDP growth. Most economist agree that in order to get to sustained 3% real GDP growth annually, we need to increase immigration into the country and stop the war and deportation on so called "illegals". The United States is suffering an ever expanding labor shortage which is going to put a damper on economic growth which will only hurt the poor and middle class even more.
The United States also needs to raise taxes on the rich, their income, capital gains, property and estates, and reinvest that money in education and building economic growth in depressed areas.
So you think the government can create jobs better than the free market? So did Marx, Lenin, Castro, Mao, and Stalin.
you also agree with them on punishing the rich for being successful, your socialist idols say, "well done comrade"
I didn't say that. I did say that the government can help the private sector. It can also help people and areas that the private sector often leaves behind.
The rich earn their money from the MARKET which they did not create, they were just born into it. I believe in helping protect and grow the market which means the rich must return a good portion of the earnings to do that since they profit the most from it. Its NOT punishment, its helping to keep the MARKET going so that there can be new Billionaires well into the future. We also want a competitive environment, not one where the rich are able to stamp out all competition through monopoly. One of the best things about capitalism is free and fair competition. The more competitive the market is the better. The Rich threaten that competition when they achieve to much power, and monopoly over certain markets, and use that advantage to crush competition to their personal benefit but to societies detriment.
your paragraph in bold could come directly from the communist manifesto. you, and they, want the government to regulate commerce and to choose winners and losers instead of letting the free market do it.
Nothing the government can ever do will make everyone equally successful, but it can make everyone equally miserable. Venezuela is the latest example of the result of the policies that you are pushing.
Putting government in charge of the market doesn't diminish avarice. It merely redirects it. Greedy people learn to play politics rather than please customers.
It's fucking communism. "Aiding" or "supporting" the market is not capitalism, moron. Roosevelt and Truman were a couple of fucking commies. They certainly loved hiring communists into their administrations.By expanding services to people in low income areas to help them get on their feet. Also many people who are poor are actually disabled or mentally ill. They need help in many ways and are not receiving it.
The other way of course is growing the economy. Boosting quarterly real GDP growth. Most economist agree that in order to get to sustained 3% real GDP growth annually, we need to increase immigration into the country and stop the war and deportation on so called "illegals". The United States is suffering an ever expanding labor shortage which is going to put a damper on economic growth which will only hurt the poor and middle class even more.
The United States also needs to raise taxes on the rich, their income, capital gains, property and estates, and reinvest that money in education and building economic growth in depressed areas.
So you think the government can create jobs better than the free market? So did Marx, Lenin, Castro, Mao, and Stalin.
you also agree with them on punishing the rich for being successful, your socialist idols say, "well done comrade"
I didn't say that. I did say that the government can help the private sector. It can also help people and areas that the private sector often leaves behind.
The rich earn their money from the MARKET which they did not create, they were just born into it. I believe in helping protect and grow the market which means the rich must return a good portion of the earnings to do that since they profit the most from it. Its NOT punishment, its helping to keep the MARKET going so that there can be new Billionaires well into the future. We also want a competitive environment, not one where the rich are able to stamp out all competition through monopoly. One of the best things about capitalism is free and fair competition. The more competitive the market is the better. The Rich threaten that competition when they achieve to much power, and monopoly over certain markets, and use that advantage to crush competition to their personal benefit but to societies detriment.
your paragraph in bold could come directly from the communist manifesto. you, and they, want the government to regulate commerce and to choose winners and losers instead of letting the free market do it.
Nothing the government can ever do will make everyone equally successful, but it can make everyone equally miserable. Venezuela is the latest example of the result of the policies that you are pushing.
Suggesting that the government aid and support the MARKET is NOT Communism. Its the form of Capitalism promoted by Roosevelt and Truman as the opposite of Communism.
The goal is not to make everyone equally successful. The goal is to increase the wealth of the country without leaving people behind in poverty. Making sure a child is fed, safe, and has healthcare is NOT communism.
It's fucking communism. "Aiding" or "supporting" the market is not capitalism, moron. Roosevelt and Truman were a couple of fucking commies. They certainly loved hiring communists into their administrations.So you think the government can create jobs better than the free market? So did Marx, Lenin, Castro, Mao, and Stalin.
you also agree with them on punishing the rich for being successful, your socialist idols say, "well done comrade"
I didn't say that. I did say that the government can help the private sector. It can also help people and areas that the private sector often leaves behind.
The rich earn their money from the MARKET which they did not create, they were just born into it. I believe in helping protect and grow the market which means the rich must return a good portion of the earnings to do that since they profit the most from it. Its NOT punishment, its helping to keep the MARKET going so that there can be new Billionaires well into the future. We also want a competitive environment, not one where the rich are able to stamp out all competition through monopoly. One of the best things about capitalism is free and fair competition. The more competitive the market is the better. The Rich threaten that competition when they achieve to much power, and monopoly over certain markets, and use that advantage to crush competition to their personal benefit but to societies detriment.
your paragraph in bold could come directly from the communist manifesto. you, and they, want the government to regulate commerce and to choose winners and losers instead of letting the free market do it.
Nothing the government can ever do will make everyone equally successful, but it can make everyone equally miserable. Venezuela is the latest example of the result of the policies that you are pushing.
Suggesting that the government aid and support the MARKET is NOT Communism. Its the form of Capitalism promoted by Roosevelt and Truman as the opposite of Communism.
The goal is not to make everyone equally successful. The goal is to increase the wealth of the country without leaving people behind in poverty. Making sure a child is fed, safe, and has healthcare is NOT communism.
They certainly were not communist. They did everything they could to save Capitalism from the march of Soviet Communism. Today we live in a world that was created by Roosevelt and Truman.
Ok, just a few points on your foolish post:
everyone wants to help people, not just socialist liberals.
no one in the USA is currently being denied medical care,
no one in the USA was denied medical care before obamacare
Life expectancy in the USA has declined because of drug use and suicide and abortions, not lack of medical care
government is the least efficient way to solve any issue, do you really want VA type care for everyone?
The USA is where new medical advances are being found, not the wonderful "50 most developed countries" as you claim
your "holier than thou" attitude is typical of liberals, you claim to love everyone, but express hate in every comment
socialism has never worked, and it has been tried in many places, the result is always tyranny, oppression, and murder.
01. I'm not a socialist liberal. I'm a Republican, Bush/McCain Republican. I've voted for straight Republican ticket in every election until 2016. Hillary Clinton was the first person I ever voted for who was not a Republican.
02. When you don't have health insurance, the hospital won't perform that expensive procedure on you. When the poor and lower class pay out of pocket for medical care, it often ruins them financially. Pharmacies when give you your medicine for free if you don't have the money to pay for it. Many people have to choose between eating food or taking their medication. THESE ARE ALL EXAMPLES OF DENIAL OF MEDICAL CARE AND IT IMPACTS LIFE EXPECTANCY!
03. Before Obamacare, more people suffered the situations seen in #2. No one should have to decide between paying for the care and upkeep of their family and whether to see the doctor or get a medical procedure. These are often difficult choices that people who are poor or lower class are faced with.
04. Life Expectancy has not actually declined in the United States but its only 34th in the world despite the fact that the United States spends more per person on medical care than any other country in the world. #1 spender on healthcare but only 34th in the world for life expectancy is a terrible record.
05. The United States Military is probably the most efficient and respected organization in the world. Its #1 at what it does, unlike the for profit healthcare industry in the United States that ranks at a dismal #34. There is no other institution in the United States that American citizens respect more than the United States military. Although the government is not the most successful and efficient on all issues or situations, it is in many areas and the United States Military is a bright shining example of this. Having the government take over U.S. healthcare will drive down cost, expand coverage to all citizens, and send U.S. life expectancy sky rocketing towards the top of the list.
06. New advances in medical technology continue all over the world and they won't stop with a change in the U.S. healthcare system. The people who discover and make the most advances are those dedicated to the science and helping people, NOT those who are dedicated to profiting off sick and dying people.
07. I've been called names dozens of times in this thread, and cursed at. I don't engage in that behavior in return. Advocating for my view point is not a form of hate towards anyone. Again, I'm a Republican, not a Democrat.
08. I've never suggested that the United States should become a socialist country. I still believe in the free market, Billionaires, and Big Business. But I don't believe in for profit healthcare. Healthcare should be regulated by the government because it will reduce cost, cover everyone, and increase life expectancy. I also believe that the top federal tax rate should return to 70% as it was always at or above in the United States from 1945 to 1980. Having a top federal tax rate does not make the country a socialist country. The United States was not a socialist country from 1945 to 1980.
09. Finally, even Richard Nixon advocated for Universal Healthcare.
nice rant, but not a word of fact in it, except the Nixon claim. But Nixon was run out of the whitehouse due to his own stupidity, hardly a person to be proud of.
Oh there were plenty of facts in there, and far more than anything you have offered up.
OK, lets just address your number 6. Medical advances. Give us a list of the recent medical advances that have come from countries with socialized medicine. Places like Russia, China, Denmark, Norway, Cuba. Then you can list the major medical facilities in those countries that compare with Mayo Clinic, MD Anderson, Cleveland clinic, Ochsner clinic, Sloan Kettering, etc.
I don't have a list, but the United States is not the only country in the world where people study medicine. That alone makes it impossible for the United States to be the only place in the world where medical advances are made. Yes, the United States has some wonderful clinics, but that does not change the fact that the United States is 34th in the world when it comes to life expectancy. Plus what is the real value of such Clinics if the poor in the United States cannot get medical care there?
It's fucking communism. "Aiding" or "supporting" the market is not capitalism, moron. Roosevelt and Truman were a couple of fucking commies. They certainly loved hiring communists into their administrations.So you think the government can create jobs better than the free market? So did Marx, Lenin, Castro, Mao, and Stalin.
you also agree with them on punishing the rich for being successful, your socialist idols say, "well done comrade"
I didn't say that. I did say that the government can help the private sector. It can also help people and areas that the private sector often leaves behind.
The rich earn their money from the MARKET which they did not create, they were just born into it. I believe in helping protect and grow the market which means the rich must return a good portion of the earnings to do that since they profit the most from it. Its NOT punishment, its helping to keep the MARKET going so that there can be new Billionaires well into the future. We also want a competitive environment, not one where the rich are able to stamp out all competition through monopoly. One of the best things about capitalism is free and fair competition. The more competitive the market is the better. The Rich threaten that competition when they achieve to much power, and monopoly over certain markets, and use that advantage to crush competition to their personal benefit but to societies detriment.
your paragraph in bold could come directly from the communist manifesto. you, and they, want the government to regulate commerce and to choose winners and losers instead of letting the free market do it.
Nothing the government can ever do will make everyone equally successful, but it can make everyone equally miserable. Venezuela is the latest example of the result of the policies that you are pushing.
Suggesting that the government aid and support the MARKET is NOT Communism. Its the form of Capitalism promoted by Roosevelt and Truman as the opposite of Communism.
The goal is not to make everyone equally successful. The goal is to increase the wealth of the country without leaving people behind in poverty. Making sure a child is fed, safe, and has healthcare is NOT communism.
They certainly were not communist. They did everything they could to save Capitalism from the march of Soviet Communism. Today we live in a world that was created by Roosevelt and Truman.
They did everything they could to destroy capitalism. Their administrations were infested with communist spies. FDR called Stalin "Uncle Joe" because he was fond of the ole mass murderer. Your last sentence is true, but it's the great tragedy of our age.It's fucking communism. "Aiding" or "supporting" the market is not capitalism, moron. Roosevelt and Truman were a couple of fucking commies. They certainly loved hiring communists into their administrations.So you think the government can create jobs better than the free market? So did Marx, Lenin, Castro, Mao, and Stalin.
you also agree with them on punishing the rich for being successful, your socialist idols say, "well done comrade"
I didn't say that. I did say that the government can help the private sector. It can also help people and areas that the private sector often leaves behind.
The rich earn their money from the MARKET which they did not create, they were just born into it. I believe in helping protect and grow the market which means the rich must return a good portion of the earnings to do that since they profit the most from it. Its NOT punishment, its helping to keep the MARKET going so that there can be new Billionaires well into the future. We also want a competitive environment, not one where the rich are able to stamp out all competition through monopoly. One of the best things about capitalism is free and fair competition. The more competitive the market is the better. The Rich threaten that competition when they achieve to much power, and monopoly over certain markets, and use that advantage to crush competition to their personal benefit but to societies detriment.
your paragraph in bold could come directly from the communist manifesto. you, and they, want the government to regulate commerce and to choose winners and losers instead of letting the free market do it.
Nothing the government can ever do will make everyone equally successful, but it can make everyone equally miserable. Venezuela is the latest example of the result of the policies that you are pushing.
Suggesting that the government aid and support the MARKET is NOT Communism. Its the form of Capitalism promoted by Roosevelt and Truman as the opposite of Communism.
The goal is not to make everyone equally successful. The goal is to increase the wealth of the country without leaving people behind in poverty. Making sure a child is fed, safe, and has healthcare is NOT communism.
They certainly were not communist. They did everything they could to save Capitalism from the march of Soviet Communism. Today we live in a world that was created by Roosevelt and Truman.
It's fucking communism. "Aiding" or "supporting" the market is not capitalism, moron. Roosevelt and Truman were a couple of fucking commies. They certainly loved hiring communists into their administrations.I didn't say that. I did say that the government can help the private sector. It can also help people and areas that the private sector often leaves behind.
The rich earn their money from the MARKET which they did not create, they were just born into it. I believe in helping protect and grow the market which means the rich must return a good portion of the earnings to do that since they profit the most from it. Its NOT punishment, its helping to keep the MARKET going so that there can be new Billionaires well into the future. We also want a competitive environment, not one where the rich are able to stamp out all competition through monopoly. One of the best things about capitalism is free and fair competition. The more competitive the market is the better. The Rich threaten that competition when they achieve to much power, and monopoly over certain markets, and use that advantage to crush competition to their personal benefit but to societies detriment.
your paragraph in bold could come directly from the communist manifesto. you, and they, want the government to regulate commerce and to choose winners and losers instead of letting the free market do it.
Nothing the government can ever do will make everyone equally successful, but it can make everyone equally miserable. Venezuela is the latest example of the result of the policies that you are pushing.
Suggesting that the government aid and support the MARKET is NOT Communism. Its the form of Capitalism promoted by Roosevelt and Truman as the opposite of Communism.
The goal is not to make everyone equally successful. The goal is to increase the wealth of the country without leaving people behind in poverty. Making sure a child is fed, safe, and has healthcare is NOT communism.
They certainly were not communist. They did everything they could to save Capitalism from the march of Soviet Communism. Today we live in a world that was created by Roosevelt and Truman.01. I'm not a socialist liberal. I'm a Republican, Bush/McCain Republican. I've voted for straight Republican ticket in every election until 2016. Hillary Clinton was the first person I ever voted for who was not a Republican.
02. When you don't have health insurance, the hospital won't perform that expensive procedure on you. When the poor and lower class pay out of pocket for medical care, it often ruins them financially. Pharmacies when give you your medicine for free if you don't have the money to pay for it. Many people have to choose between eating food or taking their medication. THESE ARE ALL EXAMPLES OF DENIAL OF MEDICAL CARE AND IT IMPACTS LIFE EXPECTANCY!
03. Before Obamacare, more people suffered the situations seen in #2. No one should have to decide between paying for the care and upkeep of their family and whether to see the doctor or get a medical procedure. These are often difficult choices that people who are poor or lower class are faced with.
04. Life Expectancy has not actually declined in the United States but its only 34th in the world despite the fact that the United States spends more per person on medical care than any other country in the world. #1 spender on healthcare but only 34th in the world for life expectancy is a terrible record.
05. The United States Military is probably the most efficient and respected organization in the world. Its #1 at what it does, unlike the for profit healthcare industry in the United States that ranks at a dismal #34. There is no other institution in the United States that American citizens respect more than the United States military. Although the government is not the most successful and efficient on all issues or situations, it is in many areas and the United States Military is a bright shining example of this. Having the government take over U.S. healthcare will drive down cost, expand coverage to all citizens, and send U.S. life expectancy sky rocketing towards the top of the list.
06. New advances in medical technology continue all over the world and they won't stop with a change in the U.S. healthcare system. The people who discover and make the most advances are those dedicated to the science and helping people, NOT those who are dedicated to profiting off sick and dying people.
07. I've been called names dozens of times in this thread, and cursed at. I don't engage in that behavior in return. Advocating for my view point is not a form of hate towards anyone. Again, I'm a Republican, not a Democrat.
08. I've never suggested that the United States should become a socialist country. I still believe in the free market, Billionaires, and Big Business. But I don't believe in for profit healthcare. Healthcare should be regulated by the government because it will reduce cost, cover everyone, and increase life expectancy. I also believe that the top federal tax rate should return to 70% as it was always at or above in the United States from 1945 to 1980. Having a top federal tax rate does not make the country a socialist country. The United States was not a socialist country from 1945 to 1980.
09. Finally, even Richard Nixon advocated for Universal Healthcare.
nice rant, but not a word of fact in it, except the Nixon claim. But Nixon was run out of the whitehouse due to his own stupidity, hardly a person to be proud of.
Oh there were plenty of facts in there, and far more than anything you have offered up.
OK, lets just address your number 6. Medical advances. Give us a list of the recent medical advances that have come from countries with socialized medicine. Places like Russia, China, Denmark, Norway, Cuba. Then you can list the major medical facilities in those countries that compare with Mayo Clinic, MD Anderson, Cleveland clinic, Ochsner clinic, Sloan Kettering, etc.
I don't have a list, but the United States is not the only country in the world where people study medicine. That alone makes it impossible for the United States to be the only place in the world where medical advances are made. Yes, the United States has some wonderful clinics, but that does not change the fact that the United States is 34th in the world when it comes to life expectancy. Plus what is the real value of such Clinics if the poor in the United States cannot get medical care there?
so, no list, ok. our life expectancy is drastically reduced by gang violence, suicide, and abortion. Take those out of the stats and we are at the top.
It's fucking communism. "Aiding" or "supporting" the market is not capitalism, moron. Roosevelt and Truman were a couple of fucking commies. They certainly loved hiring communists into their administrations.I didn't say that. I did say that the government can help the private sector. It can also help people and areas that the private sector often leaves behind.
The rich earn their money from the MARKET which they did not create, they were just born into it. I believe in helping protect and grow the market which means the rich must return a good portion of the earnings to do that since they profit the most from it. Its NOT punishment, its helping to keep the MARKET going so that there can be new Billionaires well into the future. We also want a competitive environment, not one where the rich are able to stamp out all competition through monopoly. One of the best things about capitalism is free and fair competition. The more competitive the market is the better. The Rich threaten that competition when they achieve to much power, and monopoly over certain markets, and use that advantage to crush competition to their personal benefit but to societies detriment.
your paragraph in bold could come directly from the communist manifesto. you, and they, want the government to regulate commerce and to choose winners and losers instead of letting the free market do it.
Nothing the government can ever do will make everyone equally successful, but it can make everyone equally miserable. Venezuela is the latest example of the result of the policies that you are pushing.
Suggesting that the government aid and support the MARKET is NOT Communism. Its the form of Capitalism promoted by Roosevelt and Truman as the opposite of Communism.
The goal is not to make everyone equally successful. The goal is to increase the wealth of the country without leaving people behind in poverty. Making sure a child is fed, safe, and has healthcare is NOT communism.
They certainly were not communist. They did everything they could to save Capitalism from the march of Soviet Communism. Today we live in a world that was created by Roosevelt and Truman.
yep, the march to socialism was started by FDR, one of our worst presidents. Not one democrat of today would have dropped the bombs on Japan to end the war. gotta give Truman credit for that.
They did everything they could to destroy capitalism. Their administrations were infested with communist spies. FDR called Stalin "Uncle Joe" because he was fond of the ole mass murderer. Your last sentence is true, but it's the great tragedy of our age.It's fucking communism. "Aiding" or "supporting" the market is not capitalism, moron. Roosevelt and Truman were a couple of fucking commies. They certainly loved hiring communists into their administrations.I didn't say that. I did say that the government can help the private sector. It can also help people and areas that the private sector often leaves behind.
The rich earn their money from the MARKET which they did not create, they were just born into it. I believe in helping protect and grow the market which means the rich must return a good portion of the earnings to do that since they profit the most from it. Its NOT punishment, its helping to keep the MARKET going so that there can be new Billionaires well into the future. We also want a competitive environment, not one where the rich are able to stamp out all competition through monopoly. One of the best things about capitalism is free and fair competition. The more competitive the market is the better. The Rich threaten that competition when they achieve to much power, and monopoly over certain markets, and use that advantage to crush competition to their personal benefit but to societies detriment.
your paragraph in bold could come directly from the communist manifesto. you, and they, want the government to regulate commerce and to choose winners and losers instead of letting the free market do it.
Nothing the government can ever do will make everyone equally successful, but it can make everyone equally miserable. Venezuela is the latest example of the result of the policies that you are pushing.
Suggesting that the government aid and support the MARKET is NOT Communism. Its the form of Capitalism promoted by Roosevelt and Truman as the opposite of Communism.
The goal is not to make everyone equally successful. The goal is to increase the wealth of the country without leaving people behind in poverty. Making sure a child is fed, safe, and has healthcare is NOT communism.
They certainly were not communist. They did everything they could to save Capitalism from the march of Soviet Communism. Today we live in a world that was created by Roosevelt and Truman.
FDR was a disaster for this country.It's fucking communism. "Aiding" or "supporting" the market is not capitalism, moron. Roosevelt and Truman were a couple of fucking commies. They certainly loved hiring communists into their administrations.your paragraph in bold could come directly from the communist manifesto. you, and they, want the government to regulate commerce and to choose winners and losers instead of letting the free market do it.
Nothing the government can ever do will make everyone equally successful, but it can make everyone equally miserable. Venezuela is the latest example of the result of the policies that you are pushing.
Suggesting that the government aid and support the MARKET is NOT Communism. Its the form of Capitalism promoted by Roosevelt and Truman as the opposite of Communism.
The goal is not to make everyone equally successful. The goal is to increase the wealth of the country without leaving people behind in poverty. Making sure a child is fed, safe, and has healthcare is NOT communism.
They certainly were not communist. They did everything they could to save Capitalism from the march of Soviet Communism. Today we live in a world that was created by Roosevelt and Truman.
yep, the march to socialism was started by FDR, one of our worst presidents. Not one democrat of today would have dropped the bombs on Japan to end the war. gotta give Truman credit for that.
FDR is the greatest President the United States ever had. He rescued the country from the Great Depression and then won World War II. He turned the United States from a strong country into a superpower.
Wrong. Our economy was starting to recover from the stock market crash when Congress passed the Smoot-Hawley tariffs, which plunges the economy into an even deeper recession. Then Roosevelt passed one measure after the other than made recovery impossible.They did everything they could to destroy capitalism. Their administrations were infested with communist spies. FDR called Stalin "Uncle Joe" because he was fond of the ole mass murderer. Your last sentence is true, but it's the great tragedy of our age.It's fucking communism. "Aiding" or "supporting" the market is not capitalism, moron. Roosevelt and Truman were a couple of fucking commies. They certainly loved hiring communists into their administrations.your paragraph in bold could come directly from the communist manifesto. you, and they, want the government to regulate commerce and to choose winners and losers instead of letting the free market do it.
Nothing the government can ever do will make everyone equally successful, but it can make everyone equally miserable. Venezuela is the latest example of the result of the policies that you are pushing.
Suggesting that the government aid and support the MARKET is NOT Communism. Its the form of Capitalism promoted by Roosevelt and Truman as the opposite of Communism.
The goal is not to make everyone equally successful. The goal is to increase the wealth of the country without leaving people behind in poverty. Making sure a child is fed, safe, and has healthcare is NOT communism.
They certainly were not communist. They did everything they could to save Capitalism from the march of Soviet Communism. Today we live in a world that was created by Roosevelt and Truman.
FDR saved the nation from the Great Depression and then Won World War II. He turned the United States from a strong country into the most powerful country on earth.
You guys scream over $5 billion for border security, yet see no problem with this-
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
Medicare for All’ Would Cost $32.6 Trillion Over 10 Years, Study Says
VOMIT!It's fucking communism. "Aiding" or "supporting" the market is not capitalism, moron. Roosevelt and Truman were a couple of fucking commies. They certainly loved hiring communists into their administrations.your paragraph in bold could come directly from the communist manifesto. you, and they, want the government to regulate commerce and to choose winners and losers instead of letting the free market do it.
Nothing the government can ever do will make everyone equally successful, but it can make everyone equally miserable. Venezuela is the latest example of the result of the policies that you are pushing.
Suggesting that the government aid and support the MARKET is NOT Communism. Its the form of Capitalism promoted by Roosevelt and Truman as the opposite of Communism.
The goal is not to make everyone equally successful. The goal is to increase the wealth of the country without leaving people behind in poverty. Making sure a child is fed, safe, and has healthcare is NOT communism.
They certainly were not communist. They did everything they could to save Capitalism from the march of Soviet Communism. Today we live in a world that was created by Roosevelt and Truman.
yep, the march to socialism was started by FDR, one of our worst presidents. Not one democrat of today would have dropped the bombs on Japan to end the war. gotta give Truman credit for that.
FDR is the greatest President the United States ever had. He rescued the country from the Great Depression and then won World War II. He turned the United States from a strong country into a superpower.
FDR was a disaster for this country.It's fucking communism. "Aiding" or "supporting" the market is not capitalism, moron. Roosevelt and Truman were a couple of fucking commies. They certainly loved hiring communists into their administrations.Suggesting that the government aid and support the MARKET is NOT Communism. Its the form of Capitalism promoted by Roosevelt and Truman as the opposite of Communism.
The goal is not to make everyone equally successful. The goal is to increase the wealth of the country without leaving people behind in poverty. Making sure a child is fed, safe, and has healthcare is NOT communism.
They certainly were not communist. They did everything they could to save Capitalism from the march of Soviet Communism. Today we live in a world that was created by Roosevelt and Truman.
yep, the march to socialism was started by FDR, one of our worst presidents. Not one democrat of today would have dropped the bombs on Japan to end the war. gotta give Truman credit for that.
FDR is the greatest President the United States ever had. He rescued the country from the Great Depression and then won World War II. He turned the United States from a strong country into a superpower.
VOMIT!It's fucking communism. "Aiding" or "supporting" the market is not capitalism, moron. Roosevelt and Truman were a couple of fucking commies. They certainly loved hiring communists into their administrations.Suggesting that the government aid and support the MARKET is NOT Communism. Its the form of Capitalism promoted by Roosevelt and Truman as the opposite of Communism.
The goal is not to make everyone equally successful. The goal is to increase the wealth of the country without leaving people behind in poverty. Making sure a child is fed, safe, and has healthcare is NOT communism.
They certainly were not communist. They did everything they could to save Capitalism from the march of Soviet Communism. Today we live in a world that was created by Roosevelt and Truman.
yep, the march to socialism was started by FDR, one of our worst presidents. Not one democrat of today would have dropped the bombs on Japan to end the war. gotta give Truman credit for that.
FDR is the greatest President the United States ever had. He rescued the country from the Great Depression and then won World War II. He turned the United States from a strong country into a superpower.
