That 2019 impeachment

[markef]

Asked and answered. You just edited out the answer.

The bias of the whistleblower has nothing to do with the facts of the allegations, therefore it has nothing to do with any defense.

Why are you okay with the president telling Ukraine to investigate his political opponent?

Trump asked Zelensky to help with an ongoing investigation into Biden family connections with mobsters in Ukraine that had been under investigation since 2014.

 

[markef]

Coup is a word used to describe illegal means to remove an incumbent. But in our case, we have Article I, Section 2, Clause 5 of the constitution, for the house. And then Article I, Section 3, Clauses 6-7 for the senate. This makes it a legal process.

The topic of this thread pertains to an abuse of power, which involved withholding congressionally approved funds in exchange for political favor. This is why the impeachment process occurred.

Trump never withheld any funds for any reason yet Biden bragged that he threatened to withhold funds to Ukraine that had been approved by Congress if Poroshenko did not fire the prosecutor who was hot on the tail of Biden's boss at Burisma.

 

[markef]

The whistleblower isn’t the source. Just someone who provided a tip that started the investigation.

The sources are the witnesses and documents that were a part of the investigation.

As far as the 6th amendment goes, it doesn’t seem to apply to this case since neither the prosecution or the defense has the right to call witnesses. The Republicans in the Senate made sure there were no witnesses to question during the trial.

He’s the embodiment of you’re delusional double standard.

The person that 'provided the tip to start the investigation' should have been locked up for the illegal leaking of classified materials. There was nothing wrong with the phone call which is why Schiff had to modify the text of the call to dishonestly make it look like Trump was just as much a quid-pro-quo criminal as Joe Biden was.

 

[markef]

He wasn’t the source of information. As you said, and I agreed, the whistleblower had no first hand information or direct evidence.

Many of Trump’s closest advisors refused to testify. They were complicit in the cover up.

Democrats unjustly denied Trump's right to call witnesses, thereby proving their impeachment scam was a hoax.

 

[markef]

Either he was a source, or he had nothing other than hearsay and second hand rumors. You. and have it both ways.

Not sure how the House could have compelled testimony. I guess they should have arrested Mark Meadows and kept him in jail until he testified. You’re pretty extreme.

The Senate Republicans were part of the cover up too.

This is your essential argument. You’re mad the American people caught wind of Trump’s corrupt schemes.

That’s just kind of pathetic.

The biggest coverup of the whole scam was the unjust protection of the criminal 'whistleblower' to keep the real facts of the case from coming out and exposing the democrats for the seditious criminals they were.

 

[markef]

How exactly are we going to “find out”?

Editing other people’s posts is against the rules.

The list of people this administration has persecuted for speaking out against them is long and growing. The whistleblower is just the latest example. We recently heard that they’re going after Cassidy Hutchinson.

Not sure who you think you’re referring to.

If prosecutions are unjust that fact should come out, just as it has in so many unjust democrat prosecutions of their political opponents under Biden.

 

[Robert W]

Trump is the only one that tried to overthrow the government. He was being prosecuted for it when you elected him.

Obama is to blame for creating the environment to overthrow the government. The group who visited the capitol should never have been attacked by the cops. The few that damaged the building of course should have been arrested and a trial performed.

 

[markef]

Trump is the authoritarian. He’s using the government to after anyone he doesn’t like, especially those who reveal his corruption to the American people.

Prosecuting whistleblowers is the kind of thing authoritarians do to keep the people in the dark.

Failing to prosecute criminals who claim immunity from prosecution because of devotion to a political party would be wrong, unjust, and wicked.

 

[markef]

Impeachment is in the constitution. That makes it legitimate use of government.

Why don't you go read the constitution before you keep replying.

Judging acts of sedition is also a legitimate legal process under the Constitution but falsely charging someone with treason is not right any more than unjustly impeaching someone is just and right.

 

[Marener]

Obama is to blame for creating the environment to overthrow the government. The group who visited the capitol should never have been attacked by the cops. The few that damaged the building of course should have been arrested and a trial performed.

The Trump supporting Capitol rioters attacked the cops first.

There was no attempt to overthrow the government by Obama or any other Democratic member.

 

[markef]

The Trump supporting Capitol rioters attacked the cops first.

There was no attempt to overthrow the government by Obama or any other Democratic member.

Democrats set up the J-6 'sedition' scam to help cover up the 2020 voting fraud scheduled to be heard in Congress on J-6.

 

[Robert W]

The Trump supporting Capitol rioters attacked the cops first.

There was no attempt to overthrow the government by Obama or any other Democratic member.

You clearly never read the directive by Obama to the intelligence people to change the report they created, that Trump and Russia were not working together, into a report stating Trump and Russia were a team. Obama had one purpose of smearing Trump. To overthrow the government. I did read his directive.

 

[Marener]

You clearly never read the directive by Obama to the intelligence people to change the report they created, that Trump and Russia were not working together, into a report stating Trump and Russia were a team. Obama had one purpose of smearing Trump. To overthrow the government. I did read his directive.

The report never said Trump and Russia were working together. You don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Hollie]

We can only hope in 2027, your orange doofus is impeached and removed.

Poor dipper. She thinks Biden will be a candidate.

 

[Robert W]

The report never said Trump and Russia were working together. You don't know what you're talking about.

You never read it. The purpose of the report was to smear Trump with the objective of overthrowing the government. When Biden took over, Democrats blessed Obama for his efforts.

 

[Robert W]

We can only hope in 2027, your orange doofus is impeached and removed.

Democrats in leadership positions are trying again to overthrow the government. They are not fooling.

 

[Marener]

You never read it. The purpose of the report was to smear Trump with the objective of overthrowing the government. When Biden took over, Democrats blessed Obama for his efforts.

Go ahead and link to the report to prove your point.

 

[Marener]

You never read it. The purpose of the report was to smear Trump with the objective of overthrowing the government. When Biden took over, Democrats blessed Obama for his efforts.

It actually took me a while to find the report, the DNI scrubbed it.

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GOVPUB-PREX28-PURL-gpo76345/pdf/GOVPUB-PREX28-PURL-gpo76345.pdf

It says nothing about Trump and Russia working together. You don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Delldude]

The report never said Trump and Russia were working together. You don't know what you're talking about.

Obama's intelligence assessment..... not the Mueller report.

 

[Delldude]

It actually took me a while to find the report, the DNI scrubbed it.

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GOVPUB-PREX28-PURL-gpo76345/pdf/GOVPUB-PREX28-PURL-gpo76345.pdf

It says nothing about Trump and Russia working together. You don't know what you're talking about.

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