IM2
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That's what Trump is trying to do using Texas.
Texas Democrats flee the state to Illinois.
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Of course, because they engaged in the gerrymandering practice long before Texas. There are about 15-16 states, all liberal, that did so before Texas.
1srelluc
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Remember the old "Snake on the Lake" in OH.
I think they finally busted it up but it had to be continuous so they would send out people to make sure the lake had not rose and made it noncontinuous.
It "slithered" across five counties, never taking in a whole county.
I think they finally busted it up but it had to be continuous so they would send out people to make sure the lake had not rose and made it noncontinuous.
It "slithered" across five counties, never taking in a whole county.
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Democrats have already gerrymandered most of their states, giving them unequal representation as compared to the ratio of dems to republicans. And, in both California and New York, democrats gerrymandered their districts and then passed laws against gerrymandering after they had already gerrymandered. Republicans have a lot of catching up to do.Once again, Trump violates rules and Republicans rush to defend his violation with "the both sides do it" defense and of course they are the victims.
Before I start, let me state that gerrymandering needs to end, so does the fillibuster and the electoral college. And yes, both sides gerrymander.
There has not been one time I can recall a Democratic president calling a governor to ask him to redraw a map in order to give Democrats an advantage. Furthermore, republicans are always cackling about how elections beong to the states.
ALL RISE!
Todays lesson
Texas Republicans, including Gov. Abbott, were reluctant to redraw the state’s congressional maps. Then Trump got involved.
Before he called lawmakers back to Austin to redraw Texas’ congressional maps, Gov. Greg Abbott was initially resistant to the plan pushed by President Donald Trump’s political team to pick up new GOP seats through a rare mid-decade redistricting, according to two people who have spoken to Abbott and the White House about the behind-the-scenes discussions.
The majority of Texas’ GOP congressional delegation was also wary of the idea, with many members concerned that Republican map-drawers could miscalculate and spread their voters too thin — thus putting their jobs in jeopardy — while trying to flip Democratic seats, six people involved in internal delegation discussions told The Texas Tribune.
Abbott told House Republicans from Texas that he was reluctant to take up the issue in Austin, where state lawmakers approve the new lines, if it would pit him against the delegation. In discussions with Abbott’s office, White House staffers attempted to assuage his worries but were unsuccessful, according to two people with direct knowledge of the developments.
Then, Trump placed a call to Abbott during which they discussed redistricting. The governor subsequently agreed to put it on his agenda for the special session, according to two people who spoke with White House officials about the call, one of whom also discussed the matter with Abbott's office.
Texas Republicans, including Gov. Abbott, were reluctant to redraw the state’s congressional maps. Then Trump got involved. - The Texas Tribune
The governor eventually agreed to include redistricting on his special session agenda after discussing the matter with the president on a phone call.www.texastribune.org
MarathonMike
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Ahh, how little you know.
Let's start with the census. It determines the apportionment of House seats in each state. By counting illegals in the census, you affect the apportionment process. If you have any modicum of imagination, you can see how their numbers impact the number of seats any given state may or may not have.
Do they need to vote? No? Are they voting? That is unknown, not unproven. But by merely being here and impacting the census numbers, they are already affecting a democratic process they aren't entitled to participate in.
The really exciting part for Texas is it's the fastest growing state in the Union. Only Texas gained two seats after the 2020 census. They are projected to add three more in 2030. So to add five right now, would really made eight in 2030. That' great for the GOP. California and New York, on the other hand each lost a seAT because people are sick of Marxism. Due to the population shift, the red states scored a net gain of three seats in 2020. It should be more by 2030, particularly if that Communist wins mayor in NYC.Once again, Trump violates rules and Republicans rush to defend his violation with "the both sides do it" defense and of course they are the victims.
Before I start, let me state that gerrymandering needs to end, so does the fillibuster and the electoral college. And yes, both sides gerrymander.
There has not been one time I can recall a Democratic president calling a governor to ask him to redraw a map in order to give Democrats an advantage. Furthermore, republicans are always cackling about how elections beong to the states.
ALL RISE!
Todays lesson
Texas Republicans, including Gov. Abbott, were reluctant to redraw the state’s congressional maps. Then Trump got involved.
Before he called lawmakers back to Austin to redraw Texas’ congressional maps, Gov. Greg Abbott was initially resistant to the plan pushed by President Donald Trump’s political team to pick up new GOP seats through a rare mid-decade redistricting, according to two people who have spoken to Abbott and the White House about the behind-the-scenes discussions.
The majority of Texas’ GOP congressional delegation was also wary of the idea, with many members concerned that Republican map-drawers could miscalculate and spread their voters too thin — thus putting their jobs in jeopardy — while trying to flip Democratic seats, six people involved in internal delegation discussions told The Texas Tribune.
Abbott told House Republicans from Texas that he was reluctant to take up the issue in Austin, where state lawmakers approve the new lines, if it would pit him against the delegation. In discussions with Abbott’s office, White House staffers attempted to assuage his worries but were unsuccessful, according to two people with direct knowledge of the developments.
Then, Trump placed a call to Abbott during which they discussed redistricting. The governor subsequently agreed to put it on his agenda for the special session, according to two people who spoke with White House officials about the call, one of whom also discussed the matter with Abbott's office.
Texas Republicans, including Gov. Abbott, were reluctant to redraw the state’s congressional maps. Then Trump got involved. - The Texas Tribune
The governor eventually agreed to include redistricting on his special session agenda after discussing the matter with the president on a phone call.
1srelluc
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TX should offer a bounty on them. 
Nostra
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Once again, Trump violates rules and Republicans rush to defend his violation with "the both sides do it" defense and of course they are the victims.
Before I start, let me state that gerrymandering needs to end, so does the fillibuster and the electoral college. And yes, both sides gerrymander.
There has not been one time I can recall a Democratic president calling a governor to ask him to redraw a map in order to give Democrats an advantage. Furthermore, republicans are always cackling about how elections beong to the states.
ALL RISE!
Todays lesson
Texas Republicans, including Gov. Abbott, were reluctant to redraw the state’s congressional maps. Then Trump got involved.
Before he called lawmakers back to Austin to redraw Texas’ congressional maps, Gov. Greg Abbott was initially resistant to the plan pushed by President Donald Trump’s political team to pick up new GOP seats through a rare mid-decade redistricting, according to two people who have spoken to Abbott and the White House about the behind-the-scenes discussions.
The majority of Texas’ GOP congressional delegation was also wary of the idea, with many members concerned that Republican map-drawers could miscalculate and spread their voters too thin — thus putting their jobs in jeopardy — while trying to flip Democratic seats, six people involved in internal delegation discussions told The Texas Tribune.
Abbott told House Republicans from Texas that he was reluctant to take up the issue in Austin, where state lawmakers approve the new lines, if it would pit him against the delegation. In discussions with Abbott’s office, White House staffers attempted to assuage his worries but were unsuccessful, according to two people with direct knowledge of the developments.
Then, Trump placed a call to Abbott during which they discussed redistricting. The governor subsequently agreed to put it on his agenda for the special session, according to two people who spoke with White House officials about the call, one of whom also discussed the matter with Abbott's office.
Texas Republicans, including Gov. Abbott, were reluctant to redraw the state’s congressional maps. Then Trump got involved. - The Texas Tribune
The governor eventually agreed to include redistricting on his special session agenda after discussing the matter with the president on a phone call.
What ya gonna do, loser? You are part of the loser party. America rejected you in November, and your approval has nosedived since then, loser.
I suggest you try to figure out how to deal with being such a loser.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
/-----/ democRATs motto: Don't do as we do; do as we say.
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Furthermore, demographic shifts in the census can be impacted by illegal immigrants, too, giving rise to the gerrymandering process we've seen in the past.
Zincwarrior
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Then the Illinois cops can blow their brains out for kidnapping. Not seeing the downside.TX should offer a bounty on them.
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Actually the democrats in Texas drew the last map so they could get the most seats in the Texas legislature. The problem is that the republicans want to redraw it. They are trying to take away the democrats advantage. The democrats know full well that if it is redrawn in even close to a decent way they loose a big advantage.
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People who run from their jobs instead of doing them don't deserve their jobs. What did they think this was? A notoriety contest?Gov. Gavin Newsom welcomed a delegation of Texas state representatives who left their state before a vote to redistrict congressional lines in the Lone Star State.
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Newsom hosts delegation of Texas Democrats to halt redistricting vote
Gov. Gavin Newsom welcomed a delegation of Texas state representatives who left their state before a vote to redistrict congressional lines.www.nbcbayarea.com
Texas Republicans are trying to redraw congressional maps, a move that would make more districts red. But, Texas Democrats left the state so they couldn’t hold the vote.
Newsom and those Texas Democrats are calling on other states to help them hold the line on what they say is a Trump-mandated power grab.
What Texas Republicans are doing it clearly a move based on desperation.. They are so very afraid of losing their very slim majority in the House of Representatives. California and state with Democratic Majorities plan redistricting moves as well. Governor Abbott and Costello has no power to Texas Dems from their seats. Governor Newsom and Democratic Governors are moving to block Texas power grab. Good for him.
Sit your asses down in that seat and vote.
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You only want Republicans gerrymandering, don't you?
/----/ Make a level playing field, moron.
IM2
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I'll tell you about it when a Democratic President calls Governor Pritzker and asks him to redistrict.
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