The Two Week Cease Fire Deal Is A Positive Development!

[eagle1462010]

Lebadon is home for freedom fighters of Hezbollah. And Israel came on their land and kill those people.

They fired on Israel

FAFO

 

[Zavulon]

They fired on Israel

They'd hold their fire from the start of ceasefire if we are talking about current situation. And it is Israel who invaded their land. They have right of self-defense.

 

[eagle1462010]

They'd hold their fire from the start of ceasefire if we are talking about current situation. And it is Israel who invaded their land. They have right of self-defense.

They fired and in Reality they are Iran.

I say they fire again take out Kharg oil terminal. How ahout that.

 

[Zavulon]

They fired and in Reality they are Iran.

They are backed by Iran, but they are local guys who are defending their own land from foreign invaders.

I say they fire again take out Kharg oil terminal. How ahout that.

And who are you to say that? And no, it might cause only additional deaths to Americans.

 

[eagle1462010]

They are backed by Iran, but they are local guys who are defending their own land from foreign invaders.

And who are you to say that? And no, it might cause only additional deaths to Americans.

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I give opinion. Iran chokes itself with the straits

 

[JoeB131]

I give opinion. Iran chokes itself with the straits

And yet they are going to rack up 5 Billion a month on tanker fees, and that doesn't even count the money they are going to make selling their oil itself.

They are making money on oil OTHER countries are drilling.

Oh, and they get to keep their Uranium, their missiles, and their oppressive government.

 

[kyzr]

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Obama gave Iran $56,000,000,000 to NOT develop nuclear bombs, which Iran promptly used to develop nuclear bombs by enriching uranium.
Obama's JCPOA was an utter failure, it had a 10-year time limit which is nothing, especially when Iran could cheat with impunity.
Obama's goal was to prevent/delay Iran from getting nukes at least past his presidency.

Trump told Iran "NO NUKES PERIOD". Trump then enforced his "no nukes" policy with firm military action.
Trump's policy is effective, Obama's failed.

 

[JoeB131]

Obama gave Iran $56,000,000,000 to NOT develop nuclear bombs, which Iran promptly used to develop nuclear bombs by enriching uranium.
Obama's JCPOA was an utter failure, it had a 10-year time limit which is nothing, especially when Iran could cheat with impunity.
Obama's goal was to prevent/delay Iran from getting nukes at least past his presidency.

Trump told Iran "NO NUKES PERIOD". Trump then enforced his "no nukes" policy with firm military action.
Trump's policy is effective, Obama's failed.

How is it effective?
Iran still has Uranium.
Iran now is getting 6 billion dollars a month in NEW revenue (as opposed to Obama returning assets that are rightfull theirs)
Iran still has an oppressive government
Iran now has a good reason to complete a nuke.

 

[kyzr]

How is it effective?
Iran still has Uranium.

They will turn it over.

Iran now is getting 6 billion dollars a month in NEW revenue (as opposed to Obama returning assets that are rightfully theirs)

If the countries want to keep paying extortion they can, or they can join a coalition to open Hormuz and restore international waters. The US exports oil, we don't pay extortion.

Iran still has an oppressive government

True, but the war isn't over yet. If there is no regime change the US can "mow the grass" again in the future if Iran continues to develop nukes and ICBMs.

Iran now has a good reason to complete a nuke.

A better one is to keep their bridges and powerplants and drinking water.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

We'll see.


C'mon, don't be such a princess. Iran still have access to Caspian sea and ground border with Afghanistan. And if Russia and China invest in Iran one tenth from what you had invested in Ukraine - they will fight with comfort.

lol they aren't going to invest squat. They are merely going to squeeze you then dump you when you are no longer useful to them. Soon we will be seeing mass desertions from that vaunted' Red Guard', whose only 'combat experience' is via beating up and murdering unarmed civilians and launching missiles into civilian cities.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

We’re living in Orwellian times.

lol you have no clue where you're living; probably in some role playing game for kids.

 

[eagle1462010]

lol they aren't going to invest squat. They are merely going to squeeze you then dump you when you are no longer useful to them. Soon we will be seeing mass desertions from that vaunted' Red Guard', whose only 'combat experience' is via beating up and murdering unarmed civilians and launching missiles into civilian cities.

When the people there fight back and realize they arent bullet proof. The Guard is fucked

 

[EdwinAMartin]

If the countries want to keep paying extortion they can, or they can join a coalition to open Hormuz and restore international waters. The US exports oil, we don't pay extortion.

Yep. We should be charging fees to use the Straits ourselves, since Europe can't be bothered, especially Spain, the defend their own interests and yet again let the US and Israel pay for it all.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

Lebadon is home for freedom fighters of Hezbollah. And Israel came on their land and kill those people.

lol Hexbollah is an Iranian militia. Try another lie and see it that flies.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

We'll see.

We already have.

 

[Zavulon]

lol they aren't going to invest squat. They are merely going to squeeze you then dump you when you are no longer useful to them. Soon we will be seeing mass desertions from that vaunted' Red Guard', whose only 'combat experience' is via beating up and murdering unarmed civilians and launching missiles into civilian cities.

Of course we do invest. Keeping Iran independent is very important goal for us.

 

[Zavulon]

lol Hexbollah is an Iranian militia. Try another lie and see it that flies.

It's simply not true. Iran are Shii, and Hezbollah are Sunni. Hezbollah are local Levadon guys (backed by Iran and some other countries).