Stimulus Checks 2? Or "Go Forth and DIE!"

[Nosmo King]

Its time to get back to work. The virus is waning if we can keep it going down.
The summer heat is almost here. Lets hope the virus keeps slowing, and slowing, and slowing....
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Are you an epidemiologist?

No but I play one on forums. Why do you ask?

Because you're offering up advise actual epidemiologists warn against. You are abetting the death of expertise.

This pandemic is not just a medical emergency, its also an economic emergency.
How many US jobs can be lost, and businesses go bankrupt before we enter a new "Great Depression"?
Ever hear of a term called the "Law of Diminishing Returns"? Its when the cure is worse than the disease.

Diminishing returns - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The government needs to balance the economic effects with the disease effects. Both patients need to be saved.

This has been my position as well.

At this point, are we not doing more harm than good? People are losing their entire lives, because we have shut down our economy, and that doesn't include the real future damage of government spending.

I don't see this as being a good trade off.

There will be a lot more people starving and living under bridges in CA since stupid Newsome is keeping the state closed thru August?!
Some governors just don't get it, then again, the people get the government they vote for, serves them right to suffer. Keep voting democrats in.

Republican and democrat are just two different sides of the same coin. Also, don't want to live under a bridge? Don't move out. Many states (if not all) have made it illegal to evict people due to the coronavirus mess. So that argument fails.

Ugh....

If you get foreclosed on, you may not be evicted immediately... but you will be evicted.

You might not be homeless tomorrow... but you will end up homeless at some point if you don't pay the mortgage.

And if by some insanity, they make it so you can never be evicted, whether you pay your mortgage or not, that will cause such a massive devastation across this country, that we will have happy dreams of the Sub-prime recession days of Obama.

That's right. Crack that fucking whip! Asshole. Kill the landlords. That is the solution. Fuck them and their wealth. People shouldn't be made homeless because of something beyond their control. And I don't give a shit about what it does to anybody's 401K or the stock market. National Socialism can fix all the troubles.

Yeah, the Soviets tried that, and the result was millions dead as the entire economy imploded.

You really are that stupid?

Think about it. Do you have money to upkeep a large condo building? No? And just killed the guy who did?

Now what?

Abandoned buildings, and people are homeless.

Good job idiot. You just sent millions to be homeless. Brilliant move moron.

You have no clue about history. Real history. The worst part is that you likely don't want to know.

You mean the part of history where we didn't all die from the flu?

That's my favorite part.

Leave it to the self centered, heartless Trumpians to marginalized and dismiss 94,000 dead Americans.

We simply provide the stats and facts and you slather on the emotion

As if emotion itself can be dismissed. Remember 9/11?

Yes that fact event happened for all to see, comprehend and react to. Far different than this hoax.

What manner of cynical idiot dismisses 94,000 American deaths as a "hoax"?

 

[Wyatt earp]

If I had to guess, I would say that our government will probably go for the latter. Which is also helped along by president Chump giving encouragement to the protesters why want to re-open the economy. And there are a lot of people suffering economic hardship. But seeing how there isn't likely to be a second round of stimulus checks, many have no choice but to go back to work. Even if it means risking their lives and spreading the coronavirus even more.

Over 80,000 people have died so far. What is the amount of genocide our country is willing to endure at the altar of capitalism as we know it. For those in power, more than likely any level of slaughter is acceptable to preserve capitalism as it was before the coronavirus.

Meh...I mean, there are serious problems involved with people not being able to work, regardless of cause. Helicopter money or universal basic income doesn't necessarily solve all the problems. What are folks doing on a daily basis to keep themselves productive, healthy, and happy?

Smoke crack

 

[Andylusion]

Its time to get back to work. The virus is waning if we can keep it going down.
The summer heat is almost here. Lets hope the virus keeps slowing, and slowing, and slowing....
View attachment 336171

Are you an epidemiologist?

No but I play one on forums. Why do you ask?

Because you're offering up advise actual epidemiologists warn against. You are abetting the death of expertise.

This pandemic is not just a medical emergency, its also an economic emergency.
How many US jobs can be lost, and businesses go bankrupt before we enter a new "Great Depression"?
Ever hear of a term called the "Law of Diminishing Returns"? Its when the cure is worse than the disease.

Diminishing returns - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The government needs to balance the economic effects with the disease effects. Both patients need to be saved.

This has been my position as well.

At this point, are we not doing more harm than good? People are losing their entire lives, because we have shut down our economy, and that doesn't include the real future damage of government spending.

I don't see this as being a good trade off.

There will be a lot more people starving and living under bridges in CA since stupid Newsome is keeping the state closed thru August?!
Some governors just don't get it, then again, the people get the government they vote for, serves them right to suffer. Keep voting democrats in.

Republican and democrat are just two different sides of the same coin. Also, don't want to live under a bridge? Don't move out. Many states (if not all) have made it illegal to evict people due to the coronavirus mess. So that argument fails.

Ugh....

If you get foreclosed on, you may not be evicted immediately... but you will be evicted.

You might not be homeless tomorrow... but you will end up homeless at some point if you don't pay the mortgage.

And if by some insanity, they make it so you can never be evicted, whether you pay your mortgage or not, that will cause such a massive devastation across this country, that we will have happy dreams of the Sub-prime recession days of Obama.

That's right. Crack that fucking whip! Asshole. Kill the landlords. That is the solution. Fuck them and their wealth. People shouldn't be made homeless because of something beyond their control. And I don't give a shit about what it does to anybody's 401K or the stock market. National Socialism can fix all the troubles.

Yeah, the Soviets tried that, and the result was millions dead as the entire economy imploded.

You really are that stupid?

Think about it. Do you have money to upkeep a large condo building? No? And just killed the guy who did?

Now what?

Abandoned buildings, and people are homeless.

Good job idiot. You just sent millions to be homeless. Brilliant move moron.

You have no clue about history. Real history. The worst part is that you likely don't want to know.

You mean the part of history where we didn't all die from the flu?

That's my favorite part.

Leave it to the self centered, heartless Trumpians to marginalized and dismiss 94,000 dead Americans.

We simply provide the stats and facts and you slather on the emotion

As if emotion itself can be dismissed. Remember 9/11?

Yes that fact event happened for all to see, comprehend and react to. Far different than this hoax.

What manner of cynical idiot dismisses 94,000 American deaths as a "hoax"?

No one dismissed 94,000 deaths as a hoax.

What we are dismissing is that this is a insane situation which requires we doom the entire country to poverty and deaths, in the name of 94,000 deaths.

Lock downs are causing people to die.

The hoax is that if we allow people to live, that everyone will die.
That is a hoax.

By all means be wise, and smart, and act responsibly. But this is simply not something worth destroying civilization over.

 

[quarantine]

If I had to guess, I would say that our government will probably go for the latter. Which is also helped along by president Chump giving encouragement to the protesters why want to re-open the economy. And there are a lot of people suffering economic hardship. But seeing how there isn't likely to be a second round of stimulus checks, many have no choice but to go back to work. Even if it means risking their lives and spreading the coronavirus even more.

Over 80,000 people have died so far. What is the amount of genocide our country is willing to endure at the altar of capitalism as we know it. For those in power, more than likely any level of slaughter is acceptable to preserve capitalism as it was before the coronavirus.

Where does the money come from????

The same place it comes from now. Pretend land. Our fiat currency is probably over 20 trillion in debt. It doesn't matter if it is 40 trillion. Though before the coronavirus thing hit, the U.S. was paying around 420 billion dollars a year just on the interest of our national debt. Which is basically money flushed down the toilet. And we just burrow more money to pay that. We need to just tell whoever we owe interest to to suck it! Apart from the national debt, we also have around 61 trillion worth of unfunded obligations. And I don't want to split the hair between a debt and an obligation.

We need to just tell whoever we owe interest to to suck it!

But you want to borrow more money for handouts to you?

You're not real bright, are you?

Usury is for suckers and slaves.

 

[quarantine]

I want to go forth AND get government money just like those on Welfare. Hell I PAID for it!!! Take the government tit away from the e welfare leeches and give it to American intact families. They NEED it now because of anti-Constitutional lock downs preventing decent folks from making a living. Cut aid to single mothers and make the sperm donors support their offspring. It's time to cull the herd.

The biggest leeches are corporate leeches and their corporate welfare. Every year they put out a list of corporations that didn't pay any taxes at all. Next, if you are ok with people dying from spreading the coronavirus, how about making yourself one of those people and kill yourself. Cull the herd in a positive direction.

 

[quarantine]

You have socialist food banks. What more do you want ?

Shove your scraps up your ass. You stand in line. If I had my way about it, if people are hungry, give them food stamps.

if people are hungry, give them food stamps.

Great idea!
That food doesn't make itself, get working, comrade!

For the people waiting in long lines for food, it the food making itself? There is a better solution to waiting in long lines. Going to a store and buying food. It works with food stamps.

Food stamps can't buy food that doesn't exist.
Now go get your shine box.

Well there are people waiting in lines to get food handed to them. Does that food exist?

 

[miketx]

If I had to guess, I would say that our government will probably go for the latter. Which is also helped along by president Chump giving encouragement to the protesters why want to re-open the economy. And there are a lot of people suffering economic hardship. But seeing how there isn't likely to be a second round of stimulus checks, many have no choice but to go back to work. Even if it means risking their lives and spreading the coronavirus even more.

Over 80,000 people have died so far. What is the amount of genocide our country is willing to endure at the altar of capitalism as we know it. For those in power, more than likely any level of slaughter is acceptable to preserve capitalism as it was before the coronavirus.

Fake news.

 

[quarantine]

We need to just tell whoever we owe interest to to suck it!

If we did that, then who would lend us money in the future?

People shouldn't have to resort to usury to get what money they need. In fact, we shouldn't even be using money. Bees, ants and termites have societies without money. Why can't we. Aren't we better than bugs?

 

[Leo123]

I want to go forth AND get government money just like those on Welfare. Hell I PAID for it!!! Take the government tit away from the e welfare leeches and give it to American intact families. They NEED it now because of anti-Constitutional lock downs preventing decent folks from making a living. Cut aid to single mothers and make the sperm donors support their offspring. It's time to cull the herd.

The biggest leeches are corporate leeches and their corporate welfare. Every year they put out a list of corporations that didn't pay any taxes at all. Next, if you are ok with people dying from spreading the coronavirus, how about making yourself one of those people and kill yourself. Cull the herd in a positive direction.

You're pretty nasty wishing I kill myself. Fuck off dickhead.

 

[quarantine]

If I had to guess, I would say that our government will probably go for the latter. Which is also helped along by president Chump giving encouragement to the protesters why want to re-open the economy. And there are a lot of people suffering economic hardship. But seeing how there isn't likely to be a second round of stimulus checks, many have no choice but to go back to work. Even if it means risking their lives and spreading the coronavirus even more.

Over 80,000 people have died so far. What is the amount of genocide our country is willing to endure at the altar of capitalism as we know it. For those in power, more than likely any level of slaughter is acceptable to preserve capitalism as it was before the coronavirus.

Have y'all gotten "your" checks? I'm surprised that my wife and I haven't. She told me she filed our taxes last year, and I believed her. (-: Our daughter was not a dependent last year, and she has not received one either.

I have direct deposit with the IRS, so mine was in my account April 30th. They say those who are getting paper checks, they might all not be sent out until September of this year.

We are getting paper checks and one can go onto the site and see the progress of their check. Site said ours is now in the mail.

Get my payment | Internal Revenue Service

The Get My Payment application is no longer available. You can still claim a missing payment and view your payment history.

www.irs.gov

That was stimulus checks 1. How many months were they supposed to last. From the people I see on the news who can't pay rent or waiting in long lines for food, I think it's time for a second round of stimulus checks. And why not. It's only money. Our national debt is already so large that it is basically an insanely large number on a tally sheet. What difference is 3 or 40 trillion more going to make.

Once we can no longer pay the interest on our debt, we lose our credit rating. When we lose our national credit rating, it's not that much different than your personal credit rating being low. Nobody will lend you money.

We don't need fucking foreign money. You know, there was a time in Germany when unemployment was rampant and people literally needed a wheelbarrow full of money to buy a loaf of bread with. The holy Hitler fixed all that.

 

[Andylusion]

If I had to guess, I would say that our government will probably go for the latter. Which is also helped along by president Chump giving encouragement to the protesters why want to re-open the economy. And there are a lot of people suffering economic hardship. But seeing how there isn't likely to be a second round of stimulus checks, many have no choice but to go back to work. Even if it means risking their lives and spreading the coronavirus even more.

Over 80,000 people have died so far. What is the amount of genocide our country is willing to endure at the altar of capitalism as we know it. For those in power, more than likely any level of slaughter is acceptable to preserve capitalism as it was before the coronavirus.

Where does the money come from????

The same place it comes from now. Pretend land. Our fiat currency is probably over 20 trillion in debt. It doesn't matter if it is 40 trillion. Though before the coronavirus thing hit, the U.S. was paying around 420 billion dollars a year just on the interest of our national debt. Which is basically money flushed down the toilet. And we just burrow more money to pay that. We need to just tell whoever we owe interest to to suck it! Apart from the national debt, we also have around 61 trillion worth of unfunded obligations. And I don't want to split the hair between a debt and an obligation.

We need to just tell whoever we owe interest to to suck it!

But you want to borrow more money for handouts to you?

You're not real bright, are you?

Usury is for suckers and slaves.

Well ok....

But understand that if you eliminate Usury, then you are not going to borrow anymore.

That means if you don't have money for a car, then you simply don't get a car.

And if there isn't money for Social Security, then there is no Social Security.

If you don't have money for education, then you simply don't get education.

If there is no money for Medicare, then you simply don't get Medicare.

I'm somewhat sympathetic to the concept of banning Usury. But you need to understand what that means. No credit cards. If you want to go out to eat, because some friends came into town unexpected, and you don't have money.... you don't go out to eat.

Are you ok with this?

 

[quarantine]

If capitalism can't create the jobs needed for people to sustain themselves, then government should step in and do so.

How? Government doesn't produce product or service for profit. Government doesn't create jobs--the private sector creates jobs. All government can do is make it more or less inviting for the private sector to do so.

Jobs were never created so people can earn a living. Jobs are created because an investor needs help in producing those products or services for a profit. Jobs are not a public or private obligation to society.

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How? You mean you are actually interested in learning? Why do I find that impossible to believe. But if you are interested, I will tell you where to find the information you seek. Watch the documentary, "Capitalism: A love story." I don't agree with absolutely everything in it. But if you watched it, you would learn something. You should also watch the documentary, "Where to invade next." The same story there. And you will learn something.

 

[quarantine]

Its time to get back to work. The virus is waning if we can keep it going down.
The summer heat is almost here. Lets hope the virus keeps slowing, and slowing, and slowing....
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From what I have been seeing on the news, many states are reopening even though the cases of coronavirus is still increasing. Also, how many instances of coronavirus in this country did it take to get the whole ball rolling to begin with. 2 or 3?

Then why isn't the pandemic still going out of control in the NYC area?
Its going down, with 1,417,350 US cases, how can it go down with so many active cases, not just 1 or 2?

Because of quarantine. With the 2 or 3 who got the whole plague rolling here, there was no quarantine.

Yes there most certainly was a quarantine here, for travelers from China, but not from Europe?!
Quarantine? Not all of the 1.4m are quarantined, so why isn't the pandemic still going out of control in the NYC area?
You did not answer this question: What's a worse condition, 1.4m cases or a few?
We have the 1.4m now and the number of cases is going down, why? How can that be?

President Chump just didn't handle things well. And he still isn't.

Really? So what should he have done? I'll show you why he couldn't or didn't.

Well, president Chump could have started out by not calling the coronavirus a hoax at the beginning.

He didn't call it a hoax, he called what Democrats were trying to do with it another one of their hoaxes. Of course this was before we had any idea how this thing would impact us. But lets say he never made that statement. How would that have changed our current plight?

He called it a hoax. Next, it would have changed our current plight by taking it seriously from the beginning. And there would be over 30,000 fewer dead people.

 

[quarantine]

I want to go forth AND get government money just like those on Welfare. Hell I PAID for it!!! Take the government tit away from the e welfare leeches and give it to American intact families. They NEED it now because of anti-Constitutional lock downs preventing decent folks from making a living. Cut aid to single mothers and make the sperm donors support their offspring. It's time to cull the herd.

The biggest leeches are corporate leeches and their corporate welfare. Every year they put out a list of corporations that didn't pay any taxes at all. Next, if you are ok with people dying from spreading the coronavirus, how about making yourself one of those people and kill yourself. Cull the herd in a positive direction.

You're pretty nasty wishing I kill myself. Fuck off dickhead.

Well you don't care if other people die. What makes you so special.

 

[quarantine]

If I had to guess, I would say that our government will probably go for the latter. Which is also helped along by president Chump giving encouragement to the protesters why want to re-open the economy. And there are a lot of people suffering economic hardship. But seeing how there isn't likely to be a second round of stimulus checks, many have no choice but to go back to work. Even if it means risking their lives and spreading the coronavirus even more.

Over 80,000 people have died so far. What is the amount of genocide our country is willing to endure at the altar of capitalism as we know it. For those in power, more than likely any level of slaughter is acceptable to preserve capitalism as it was before the coronavirus.

Where does the money come from????

The same place it comes from now. Pretend land. Our fiat currency is probably over 20 trillion in debt. It doesn't matter if it is 40 trillion. Though before the coronavirus thing hit, the U.S. was paying around 420 billion dollars a year just on the interest of our national debt. Which is basically money flushed down the toilet. And we just burrow more money to pay that. We need to just tell whoever we owe interest to to suck it! Apart from the national debt, we also have around 61 trillion worth of unfunded obligations. And I don't want to split the hair between a debt and an obligation.

We need to just tell whoever we owe interest to to suck it!

But you want to borrow more money for handouts to you?

You're not real bright, are you?

Usury is for suckers and slaves.

Well ok....

But understand that if you eliminate Usury, then you are not going to borrow anymore.

That means if you don't have money for a car, then you simply don't get a car.

And if there isn't money for Social Security, then there is no Social Security.

If you don't have money for education, then you simply don't get education.

If there is no money for Medicare, then you simply don't get Medicare.

I'm somewhat sympathetic to the concept of banning Usury. But you need to understand what that means. No credit cards. If you want to go out to eat, because some friends came into town unexpected, and you don't have money.... you don't go out to eat.

Are you ok with this?

You don't need usury to have any of that. When inflation heats up, the fed increases interests payments. If the economy is doing poorly, the fed nearly eliminates interest payments-usury.

 

[quarantine]

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Stimulus Checks 2? Or "Go Forth and DIE!"

I’ll go with Histrionic-Laden False Dichotomies for $1,000, Alex.

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Trump is talking about opening up the economy again. The number of deaths be damned. I disagree.

That's if you believe we can't open the economy back up without massive spread of Covid. If people take reasonable precautions, wash hands a lot, when not capable, use hand sanitizer, wear masks, I think we can get by.

Maybe we should at least wait until people can get some god damned protective equipment. Most of the people I see have to use home made masks. That isn't good enough. On another note, those masks that have the little ventilator in front are like "fuck you" masks. They will filter the air that goes in. But the air that gets breathed out just goes out the vent. That isn't good enough. It also drives me crazy when I see people wearing a mask that isn't covering their nose. Your mouth and nose are just two different openings to the same hole. It would be better if they had a mask that just covered their nose and kept their mouths shut.

Here is the problem with all this: First of all, it seems to be politically divided. Secondly, there is no evidence that shutdowns have had any better results than non-shutdown countries or states. In fact, some statistics suggest that states and countries in Europe who didn't shut down had better results than those that did.

Now I'm not saying this as a 25 year old kid who participates in mixed martial arts, I say this as a 60 year old with several compromising health conditions; one of them the most deadliest when combined with the Covid virus. Until we have evidence that shutdowns could end this thing, then my opinion is open everything up, and use reasonable precautions as I do. I don't like doing it, but I also don't want to see millions suffer because of people like me.

Throughout recorded history, quarantine has always been the way to stop the spread of disease. It may not have always worked. But if it even slows some plague down, it is worth the effort.

 

[Leo123]

I want to go forth AND get government money just like those on Welfare. Hell I PAID for it!!! Take the government tit away from the e welfare leeches and give it to American intact families. They NEED it now because of anti-Constitutional lock downs preventing decent folks from making a living. Cut aid to single mothers and make the sperm donors support their offspring. It's time to cull the herd.

The biggest leeches are corporate leeches and their corporate welfare. Every year they put out a list of corporations that didn't pay any taxes at all. Next, if you are ok with people dying from spreading the coronavirus, how about making yourself one of those people and kill yourself. Cull the herd in a positive direction.

You're pretty nasty wishing I kill myself. Fuck off dickhead.

Well you don't care if other people die. What makes you so special.

I never said that fuckhead.

 

[quarantine]

If I had to guess, I would say that our government will probably go for the latter. Which is also helped along by president Chump giving encouragement to the protesters why want to re-open the economy. And there are a lot of people suffering economic hardship. But seeing how there isn't likely to be a second round of stimulus checks, many have no choice but to go back to work. Even if it means risking their lives and spreading the coronavirus even more.

Over 80,000 people have died so far. What is the amount of genocide our country is willing to endure at the altar of capitalism as we know it. For those in power, more than likely any level of slaughter is acceptable to preserve capitalism as it was before the coronavirus.

When you have capitalism, you have jobs. An economic plunge could close down a lot of business which means a lot of jobs lost if and when we are totally safe from the virus. And what happens if there is no way TO wipe out this virus.....what do we do then?

Most all people need a job to support themselves and their families. The government can't support us forever. So it's more than just saving business, saving jobs, it's also saving the country so we don't end up like Greece or Venezuela. And don't think for a minute that can't happen in our country.

Though I wish it was otherwise, what I speak of wouldn't be a forever thing. Just until the plague is crushed. Also, as I said before, bees, ants and termites have societies. And they have no need of money at all. Neither is employment an issue. Surely to some small degree we humans can do a little bit of what some basically brainless bugs can do.

Really? Are you going to grow your own food from now on? Are you going to create heat in your home? Are you going to never go anywhere unless you walk or ride a bike? Are you going to stop taking any and all medications you're on? Are you willing to lose your house or apartment and build a shack in the middle of the woods somewhere?

We are not insects, we are human beings. We are people that survive only because of a modern society, which of course requires money to participate.

What has most people bitching is being able to do business. Farming and food production is just a small part of it. Though it is the most important part. Also, as long as gas and electricity are being produced, heating a house is no problem. Next, as human beings, we should be able to better than bug civilizations. And they don't use money.

Modern society uses money to survive. You can't live without it. Hell, out in the sticks, we have several Amish communities. Many of them have jobs because money is not optional--it's a necessity. Given the fact there is only one way for most to get money, that's what we need to do. Our government is traveling dangerous territory right now. The quicker we get to the point we can no longer spend (and yes, that day is coming) the quicker our country will collapse.

Economically, our country has already collapsed. That is as far as the value of money goes. Because we can never pay back the amount that we owe. Even before the coronavirus, our national debt kept growing and growing. Ever economist I have ever heard speaking about it said that it was unsustainable. Sooner or later, the crash would come. Well let it happen now. Flush the dollar down the toilet, erase our debt and create a new currency. Just like the holy Hitler did with MEFO currency. And give every poor working age adult in the US a $12,000 new dollar stimulus check to see them through the coronavirus quarantine period. Or maybe they should make it a $24,000 check.

Because we can never pay back the amount that we owe.

Who said we had to or should?

Flush the dollar down the toilet, erase our debt and create a new currency.

Pay your bills, deadbeat.

And give every poor working age adult in the US a $12,000 new dollar stimulus check to see them through the coronavirus quarantine period.

Nah.

At one time in France they had a lot of "deadbeats." The French built guillotines to deal with those who treated them as deadbeats. If capitalism can't create the jobs needed for people to sustain themselves, then government should step in and do so. The Chinese did it with building the Great Wall. The Egyptians did it with building the pyramids. Along with many other great public works that various civilizations had created throughout history.

Yeah, and that resulted in devastation for France. You need to remember historically what the result of that ideology was. Thousands on thousands of French were slaughtered in mass executions, which ended up not killing just aristocrats, but everyone. That's why they called it the reign of terror.

And with the destruction of the stable government, institution of mass conscription, civil war, and then the dictatorship of Napoleon, which forced thousands more citizens into fighting wars, and large scale deaths.

And the long term effects of the Revolution, resulted in nearly the entire 1800s in France being nothing but power struggles and assassinations, and political exiles.

It is very clear that utter destruction of France in World War 1, and the subjugation of France in World War 2, can all be traced back to the French revolution.

You pointing to the French revolution as a model to follow, proves you are utterly incompetent on this subject.

BS.

 

[Papageorgio]

If I had to guess, I would say that our government will probably go for the latter. Which is also helped along by president Chump giving encouragement to the protesters why want to re-open the economy. And there are a lot of people suffering economic hardship. But seeing how there isn't likely to be a second round of stimulus checks, many have no choice but to go back to work. Even if it means risking their lives and spreading the coronavirus even more.

Over 80,000 people have died so far. What is the amount of genocide our country is willing to endure at the altar of capitalism as we know it. For those in power, more than likely any level of slaughter is acceptable to preserve capitalism as it was before the coronavirus.

When you have capitalism, you have jobs. An economic plunge could close down a lot of business which means a lot of jobs lost if and when we are totally safe from the virus. And what happens if there is no way TO wipe out this virus.....what do we do then?

Most all people need a job to support themselves and their families. The government can't support us forever. So it's more than just saving business, saving jobs, it's also saving the country so we don't end up like Greece or Venezuela. And don't think for a minute that can't happen in our country.

Though I wish it was otherwise, what I speak of wouldn't be a forever thing. Just until the plague is crushed. Also, as I said before, bees, ants and termites have societies. And they have no need of money at all. Neither is employment an issue. Surely to some small degree we humans can do a little bit of what some basically brainless bugs can do.

You will never crush the plague. It will be with us forever, just like all the viruses before this. So, you want us to all stay home until we die? Is that your plan? I’d like to know what your answer is.

 

[quarantine]

I want to go forth AND get government money just like those on Welfare. Hell I PAID for it!!! Take the government tit away from the e welfare leeches and give it to American intact families. They NEED it now because of anti-Constitutional lock downs preventing decent folks from making a living. Cut aid to single mothers and make the sperm donors support their offspring. It's time to cull the herd.

The biggest leeches are corporate leeches and their corporate welfare. Every year they put out a list of corporations that didn't pay any taxes at all. Next, if you are ok with people dying from spreading the coronavirus, how about making yourself one of those people and kill yourself. Cull the herd in a positive direction.

You're pretty nasty wishing I kill myself. Fuck off dickhead.

Well you don't care if other people die. What makes you so special.

I never said that fuckhead.

Not in exactly that way. But by saying everybody should go back to work despite the plague, you are sentencing who knows how many hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of people to death. Which. like it or not, makes you worse than just a fuckhead.