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Spanish court considers trying former US officials
The first of many? But is there any merit in such actions or another waste of time and tax payer money.
yeah, we could have a field day just on the InquisitionIt would be fun to try Spain for crimes against humanity, based on their monumentaly huge record of human rights abuses going back to the Visigoths.
Jim, do you really want to open that pandoras box?Spanish court considers trying former US officials
The first of many? But is there any merit in such actions or another waste of time and tax payer money.
I suspect that as America's superpower status fades, and that is inevitable as our economy continues its decline, the security of former officials who are thought by other nations to be war criminals will continue to decline.
There are already a lot of Bush administration officials who probably should NOT visit Europe.
War criminals will not find safe haven in civilized nations, folks.
If the rest of the world in retrspect decides that what Bush II's people did constiuted war crimes?
Well then those people had best keep their asses in America where they'll be safe from the clutches of the rest of the world.
Their safety depends on American continuing to be a superpower.
And that superpower status isn't looking so good right now, is it?
That should include Mexico. That could turn out to be a great solution to many of our problems.Spanish court considers trying former US officials
The first of many? But is there any merit in such actions or another waste of time and tax payer money.
I believe the US Courts should retaliate and bring charges of harrassment and denial of human rights on those lawyers, any judges and any prosecutors that bring the charges to court.
We should threaten Spain with legal retaliation and threaten to seize assets of the Spanish Government and expel their Diplomats.
Only when one lies and twists the truth. NONE of those Officials are criminals. And Spain has no Jurisdiction. We should retaliate but Obama will kiss their ass.
Spanish law allows courts to reach beyond national borders in cases of torture or war crimes under a doctrine of universal justice, though the government has recently said it hopes to limit the scope of the legal process.
Garzon became famous for bringing charges against former Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet in 1998, and he and other Spanish judges have agreed to investigate alleged abuses everywhere from Tibet to Argentina's "dirty war," El Salvador and Rwanda.
Still, the country's record in prosecuting such cases has been spotty at best, with only one suspect extradited to Spain so far.
When a similar case was brought against Israeli officials earlier this year, Foreign Minister Miguel Angel Moratinos assured his Israeli counterpart that the process would be quashed.
Even if indictments are eventually handed down against the U.S. officials, it is far from clear whether arrests would ever take place. The officials would have to travel outside the United States and to a country willing to take them into custody before possible extradition to Spain.
The officials are charged with providing a legal cover for interrogation methods like waterboarding against terrorism suspects at Guantanamo, which the Spanish human rights lawyers say amounted to torture.
Yoo, for instance, wrote a series of secret memos that claimed the president had the legal authority to circumvent the Geneva Conventions.
I suspect that as America's superpower status fades, and that is inevitable as our economy continues its decline, the security of former officials who are thought by other nations to be war criminals will continue to decline.
There are already a lot of Bush administration officials who probably should NOT visit Europe.
War criminals will not find safe haven in civilized nations, folks.
If the rest of the world in retrspect decides that what Bush II's people did constiuted war crimes?
Well then those people had best keep their asses in America where they'll be safe from the clutches of the rest of the world.
Their safety depends on American continuing to be a superpower.
And that superpower status isn't looking so good right now, is it?
Only when one lies and twists the truth. NONE of those Officials are criminals. And Spain has no Jurisdiction. We should retaliate but Obama will kiss their ass.
They really need to stop doing that. They are trying to claim jurisdiction to prosecute elected officials for alleged crimes that happened on non-spanish soil. I would consider such an exercise a potential act of war.
you are one sick perverted personI suspect that as America's superpower status fades, and that is inevitable as our economy continues its decline, the security of former officials who are thought by other nations to be war criminals will continue to decline.
There are already a lot of Bush administration officials who probably should NOT visit Europe.
War criminals will not find safe haven in civilized nations, folks.
If the rest of the world in retrspect decides that what Bush II's people did constiuted war crimes?
Well then those people had best keep their asses in America where they'll be safe from the clutches of the rest of the world.
Their safety depends on American continuing to be a superpower.
And that superpower status isn't looking so good right now, is it?
i dont give a rats ass what their laws stateOnly when one lies and twists the truth. NONE of those Officials are criminals. And Spain has no Jurisdiction. We should retaliate but Obama will kiss their ass.
And how do you know that?
Spanish law allows courts to reach beyond national borders in cases of torture or war crimes under a doctrine of universal justice, though the government has recently said it hopes to limit the scope of the legal process.
Garzon became famous for bringing charges against former Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet in 1998, and he and other Spanish judges have agreed to investigate alleged abuses everywhere from Tibet to Argentina's "dirty war," El Salvador and Rwanda.
Still, the country's record in prosecuting such cases has been spotty at best, with only one suspect extradited to Spain so far.
When a similar case was brought against Israeli officials earlier this year, Foreign Minister Miguel Angel Moratinos assured his Israeli counterpart that the process would be quashed.
Even if indictments are eventually handed down against the U.S. officials, it is far from clear whether arrests would ever take place. The officials would have to travel outside the United States and to a country willing to take them into custody before possible extradition to Spain.
The officials are charged with providing a legal cover for interrogation methods like waterboarding against terrorism suspects at Guantanamo, which the Spanish human rights lawyers say amounted to torture.
Yoo, for instance, wrote a series of secret memos that claimed the president had the legal authority to circumvent the Geneva Conventions.
again, there are no war criminals hereI suspect that as America's superpower status fades, and that is inevitable as our economy continues its decline, the security of former officials who are thought by other nations to be war criminals will continue to decline.
There are already a lot of Bush administration officials who probably should NOT visit Europe.
War criminals will not find safe haven in civilized nations, folks.
If the rest of the world in retrspect decides that what Bush II's people did constiuted war crimes?
Well then those people had best keep their asses in America where they'll be safe from the clutches of the rest of the world.
Their safety depends on American continuing to be a superpower.
And that superpower status isn't looking so good right now, is it?
Only when one lies and twists the truth. NONE of those Officials are criminals. And Spain has no Jurisdiction. We should retaliate but Obama will kiss their ass.
Jurisdiction preumes that war criminals have a safe haven.
If it becomes the mindset of the world that some American official is a war criminal then jurisdiction becomes irrelevant.
When it comes to the raw application of power, jurisdiction depends on who has ithe power.
Jesus...you're a lifer in the military and you don't understand that?
If the world actually truly cared about legal nicities, there's be no military anywhere on earth.
