Something important that we are losing....

[Glensather]

Is it bad that I'm pretty sure I know who OP is quoting.
At any rate, I'm from 4chan. Bad English and insults don't bother me anymore.

 

[Truthmatters]

http://www.usmessageboard.com/the-rubber-room/150282-the-experiment-in-civility.html


take a gander


Its an interesting primer in just how insane the far right is.

 

[uscitizen]

We should not let those under 21 on here.

 

[peach174]

Dear Truthmatters,
You get banned because you keep breaking for forum rules. How about reading them?
You say you have been on these forums for ten years, yet you refuse to learn how to spell.
If you can't see these two mistakes that you do constantly, how can you ever see the truth?
Deal with your own problems before you go accusing anyone else.

 

[beretta304]

Dear Truthmatters,
You get banned because you keep breaking for forum rules. How about reading them?
You say you have been on these forums for ten years, yet you refuse to learn how to spell.
If you can't see these two mistakes that you do constantly, how can you ever see the truth?
Deal with your own problems before you go accusing anyone else.

And she posted the dreaded "c" word.


"I was treated WORSE by people on the right because I was seen as weak."

"They thought calling me things lile twat and **** would scare me."


The people on the FAR right in this country are not sane."

 

[Barb]

I can't be the only one interested in better discussions, am I? Anybody?

I think there is an area here (the no flame zone?) that addresses your concerns. There's something here for everyone, and if you look through, you will find your own happy place to be. There's the coffee shop, the bar, I think a sports bar, the rubber room, the flame zone, the no flame zone...

Some people like gentleman's rules, but there is a lot of shady that can be hidden behind platitudinous bs, and some believe that a street fight is more honest.

 

[Truthmatters]

Dear Truthmatters,
You get banned because you keep breaking for forum rules. How about reading them?
You say you have been on these forums for ten years, yet you refuse to learn how to spell.
If you can't see these two mistakes that you do constantly, how can you ever see the truth?
Deal with your own problems before you go accusing anyone else.

what rules do I keep breaking?

 

[Moonglow]

escalation? Hell. It's been that way for a long time.

 

[Truthmatters]

Yes on the internets your oposition will tell you what they only say to each other in "queit rooms".


you know what they really think.

 

[martinjlm]

And once again a thread degernates into name calling, thanks Zeke for giving an example of the OP whole point.

You are welcome. You ever try and have a conversation where you ask someone a question and they answer with a non related question? It is definitely a conversation killer. And the norm on here.

These places are not intended for "good conversation". IMO.

They are intended as a format for every person who would like to have been a political commentator to put forth their considered views and opinions. Facts be damned.

Sometimes it is fun. Others a waste of time. But meaningful it will never be. No consequences to our actions.

Let's make a pledge right now. We will not engage in childish name calling from this day forward. Even returning what you receive as I do sometimes. That does not include names defining what you think is a position, such as pretender or partisan. Let's just try and stay away from the "seven words you can't say on TV." (Lenny Bruce reference)

I'm in........(and btw....George Carlin, not Lenny Bruce)

 

[peach174]

Dear Truthmatters,
You get banned because you keep breaking for forum rules. How about reading them?
You say you have been on these forums for ten years, yet you refuse to learn how to spell.
If you can't see these two mistakes that you do constantly, how can you ever see the truth?
Deal with your own problems before you go accusing anyone else.

what rules do I keep breaking?

I suggest that you read the PM Guidelines, the Language Guidelines and the rules for the clean debate forum.

 

[Truthmatters]

I am not doing it again.

there is no point.

 

[Truthmatters]

Dear Truthmatters,
You get banned because you keep breaking for forum rules. How about reading them?
You say you have been on these forums for ten years, yet you refuse to learn how to spell.
If you can't see these two mistakes that you do constantly, how can you ever see the truth?
Deal with your own problems before you go accusing anyone else.

what rules do I keep breaking?

I suggest that you read the PM Guidelines, the Language Guidelines and the rules for the clean debate forum.

no thanks.


why cant you just tell me the rules you think Ive broken?

 

[Rat in the Hat]

Dear Truthmatters,
You get banned because you keep breaking for forum rules. How about reading them?
You say you have been on these forums for ten years, yet you refuse to learn how to spell.
If you can't see these two mistakes that you do constantly, how can you ever see the truth?
Deal with your own problems before you go accusing anyone else.

what rules do I keep breaking?

I suggest that you read the PM Guidelines, the Language Guidelines and the rules for the clean debate forum.

She might want to read this rule too. (regarding post #15)

One:
The word “c***” was relegated to the Flame Zone by the board Administrator at least a year and a half ago, we continue to enforce this on the open board and in reported PMs. This will include any attempted "variation" of the word that's intended to circumvent the rule. A member can not infer another member engages in an act of beastiality in any forum.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/5119662-post1.html

Disclaimer: I edited the word in Ringel's post so as not to break the rule myself.

 

[peach174]

what rules do I keep breaking?

I suggest that you read the PM Guidelines, the Language Guidelines and the rules for the clean debate forum.

no thanks.


why cant you just tell me the rules you think Ive broken?

This is exactly why you keep getting banned.

 

[beretta304]

She posts drunk. You're not going to get through to her.

 

[Freewill]

Here is an example TM of a post you made in a discussion on 401K, completely without provocation:

dear idiots.

the stock market doesn better under Dems.

check the history.

cant you folks get anything correct?

how did all that Gun Grab crap you claimed work out?


You people just lie and lie and lie some more about everyfuckingthing


The above without provocation, all I can think is you do not expect respect.

 

[blastoff]

I can't be the only one interested in better discussions, am I? Anybody?

Perhaps if you had included a more fair and balanced portrayal of examples of things you didn't like the thread would have more credibility.

Posters from both sides of the political spectrum are guilty, myself included from time to time.

 

[Freewill]

People actually get banned from this board? I have visited many boards and this one has perhaps the lack of enforcement of the rules that I have seen. Or maybe I just don't see it happening.

 

[Intense]

…the ability to engage in adult conversations. Below are actual posts that were made by one person over the past 5 or 6 days. Whether we disagree or are angered by different viewpoints, we should be able to have spirited discussions.

Has anyone else grown tired of the escalation in name-calling and vitriol replacing civility, mature discussion, disagreements or disputes? All sides have guilty parties – it’s not just one or the other.

It would make this board much more enjoyable if we could retire the exhausted labels of idiot, moron, stupid, retard, ____tard, etc. For those who must resort to childish insults regarding mental capacity, you may want to use a spelling and grammar check first because most of those judgmental responses are fraught with errors, making them hilariously ironic.

Here are some prime examples of one person’s disregard for meaningful comments[, basic English and proper writing. Please note, these statements have not been altered and are oh-so-funny . Enjoy.

If you dimwits think you are so smart, why do you guys always sound so stupid and do stupid things?

This just in. Everyone but you know you are a big lefty commie retard. Shut Up fool.

No. Someone smarter then you libtards.

Yet you guys put in office their puppet. Idiots.

Libtards hate it when the truth comes out, they do not know how to deal with it.

An idiot stating what other idiots think.

Because smart people know the truth. Idiots follow the idiot in chief.

They are too stupid to realize how they have been played.

T he first useful idiot shows up. Hey there puke.

The idiot has spoken.

You are an idiot of the first degree.

The three stooges: obamaturd, clinton, and rice should not have lied for two weeks if they did not want to be held accountable. The three stooges need to pay the price.

We all know the alphabets mainstream media are obamaturd butt kissers. Story there.

And obamaturds cushy arse.

You are the fuckwit, fuckwit. Obamaturd is a pos and you idiots kiss his arse.

I told you, google it. I did. You do some work and see for yourself instead of hiding behind obamaturds big ears.

Obamaturd is a disgrace, and you, idiot.

Obamacare is a perfect example. If you are too stupid to see that, you have NO credibility. Google socialism, obamacare fits the definition to a tee. Your response is typical of a libtard..

JIt is their fault, any intelligent person knows it. Obviously the idiot left doesn't because they are retarded.[ust like obamaturd to appoint a coward of a traitor.
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By the way, I am not claiming to be error-free, but I am not insulting other poster’s intelligence.

Hey new poster,


are you on the down low or the disabled list?


seriously though heres the gist of how I see it.

When I first started out in this internets world (series of tubes) I insulted no one.

I tried very hard to be civil yet state the facts.

I was lumped right in with everyone who called names.


The poster Immie like ten years ago acused me of being uncivil and I told him to go check my every post for an insult.

He could find none.


Of course ten years later he says he doesnt remember the incident but that is jsut the continuation of the problem.


I at that point realised cussing and calling names was part of the deal oif no one is willing to give credit for civility.


I love to make up insult names so its fun.

I have since spent two seperate years using no invective.


The forst time was at a site that is owned by Gunnys brother( gunny was a ficture here once).

They banned me because it drove them bat shit insane and they are full of hate.


Then after the Dem in Arizona got a bullet injected into her head after the republicans called for "second amendment remedies" to not winning elections I did a civility experiment for nearly a full year.


Guess what those years of civility got me?




Not one fucking thing.


I was treated WORSE by people on the right because I was seen as weak.

They thought calling me things lile twat would scare me.


The people on the FAR right in this country are not sane.


They are not fair.

they are not civil


they are not smart


they are not trustable


they are not an asset


they are a anchor dragging the bottom of the ocean trying to stop the world from changing for the better.


and they dont like anyone on board the ship which sails above them.

Hell they hate the fucking ship.


They hate government and say its evil.

they hate the people with the wrong colors of skin.

they hate the people on the ship who love each other if they are the wrong sex.


They hate the kids on the ship who have nothing to eat.

They hate the sick people on the ship.


They hate the ships library.

they hate the ships schools.


they hate the teachers on the ship.

They hate the ships logs because they cant change them.

They hate the sceince that created a ship that can float and sail and defy the oceans powers.


Now why am I supposed to stay civil with people like that when its proven they will NEVER be civil themselves.


I spent YEARS trying to get them to be civil.

It is not going to happen.


No con Ive met in my entire life ever respected me in any way whe I was civil to them.

I think your problem, at least, in part, is confusing Politics with Human Nature. That, and the trouble you bring upon yourself with your shining people skills.