Some differences between conservatives and liberals

[Biff_Poindexter]

If you ever wondered what side of the political fence you sit on, this is a great test:

If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a liberal doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.

If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
A liberal, wonders who is going to take care of him.

If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat.
If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meats banned for everyone.

If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Liberals demand that those they don't like be shut down.

If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and Jesus silenced.

If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it.
A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.

If a conservative reads this, he'll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh.
A liberal will delete it because he's "offended."

The main difference between conservative and liberal is one tends to have more empathy...the other takes pride in not having it......ESPECIALLY for people who are not "like them"

That’s just nonsense, BOTH sides tend to express empathy but only for other people THAT AGREE WITH THEIR WORLD VIEW.

A phenomenon that you just demonstrated.

That is just fact.....

Conservatives would vote for Medicare For All today if they could ensure that those "others" don't get it too....


And even some studies have shown that yea, Conservatives can be compassionate and have empathy.....but:

"...findings suggest that conservatives are simply more likely to extend that empathy only to their kin."

And as for the present state of Conservatism....what is it? Is it showing fealty to one man or is it something else?

Every time folks claim they have nominated a "true conservative" as a presidential candidate......afterwards we hear all sorts of excuses as to why that particular candidate wasn't really a Conservative

 

[Devils_Advocate]

Blues Man change Liberal to Progressives and you would be correct…

 

[kyzr]

If you ever wondered what side of the political fence you sit on, this is a great test:

If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a liberal doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.

If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
A liberal, wonders who is going to take care of him.

If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat.
If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meats banned for everyone.

If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Liberals demand that those they don't like be shut down.

If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and Jesus silenced.

If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it.
A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.

If a conservative reads this, he'll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh.
A liberal will delete it because he's "offended."

You need to stop smoking manure. That shit will kill you.

On to one item in you list.
As far as I can see, you are allowed to practice whatever religion you'd like. The difference between a liberal
and conservative is that a liberal will not care, however, a conservative will seek to force their religious beliefs on
the liberals..and everyone else..why? Because his God commands it. Therefore feels the need to force their morality
on everyone else.

I could go through the rest of the list but you get the idea.
Didn't your parents ever teach you about assumptions?

1. Who "forces" their religion on others? Its not conservatives. Think beheadings and honor killings.
2. Morality is a different topic totally, think decency, honesty, and consideration.

I think abortion, birth control, same sex (and marriage ).
All frowned upon by conservatives because they offend their spirit deity.
So they elect politicians who create laws penalizing it, making it difficult or even illegal, they stack
courts with judges sympathetic to their religious beliefs who'll rule with their just and righteous beliefs.

1. Abortion is legal.
2. Phony Catholics like Biden, Pelosi, and Cuomo won't be able to receive Holy Communion because of their pro-choice policies, that's a religious sanction and choice.
3. Birth control is a Catholic policy, but its really not enforced.
4. Same sex marriage was against Church teaching, but the pope said "who are we to judge" so who knows anymore?
5. I am unaware of any laws outlawing abortion, birth control, or same sex marriage??

 

[Moonglow]

This liberal owns guns, hunts, fishes, grows my own veggies and weed..

 

[rightwinger]

Some differences between conservatives and liberals​

If a liberal loses an election, they ask why and try to correct the cause of losing

If a conservative loses an election they pout, say they were cheated and attack the Capitol to try to stop it from being official

 

[kyzr]

If you ever wondered what side of the political fence you sit on, this is a great test:

If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a liberal doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.

If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
A liberal, wonders who is going to take care of him.

If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat.
If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meats banned for everyone.

If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Liberals demand that those they don't like be shut down.

If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and Jesus silenced.

If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it.
A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.

If a conservative reads this, he'll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh.
A liberal will delete it because he's "offended."

The main difference between conservative and liberal is one tends to have more empathy...the other takes pride in not having it......ESPECIALLY for people who are not "like them"

That’s just nonsense, BOTH sides tend to express empathy but only for other people THAT AGREE WITH THEIR WORLD VIEW.

A phenomenon that you just demonstrated.

That is just fact.....

Conservatives would vote for Medicare For All today if they could ensure that those "others" don't get it too....


And even some studies have shown that yea, Conservatives can be compassionate and have empathy.....but:

"...findings suggest that conservatives are simply more likely to extend that empathy only to their kin."

And as for the present state of Conservatism....what is it? Is it showing fealty to one man or is it something else?

Every time folks claim they have nominated a "true conservative" as a presidential candidate......afterwards we hear all sorts of excuses as to why that particular candidate wasn't really a Conservative

1. Conservatives vote to protect Medicare for those who paid into it and earned it.
2. Conservatism today isn't as popular as "America First Populism". You'll see what that means in 2022 and 2024
3. You are referencing "Phony Conservatism" and "Phony Conservatives", like those who vote for tax cuts to grow the economy at a phony rate and just grows the Debt.
4. Real conservatives balance budgets, they are as rare as hens teeth.

 

[rightwinger]

Some differences between conservatives and liberals​

If a liberal doesn’t like bad news they work to correct the cause of the problem

If a conservative doesn’t like bad news they claim it is fake and make up their own facts

 

[NightFox]

If you ever wondered what side of the political fence you sit on, this is a great test:

If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a liberal doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.

If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
A liberal, wonders who is going to take care of him.

If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat.
If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meats banned for everyone.

If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Liberals demand that those they don't like be shut down.

If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and Jesus silenced.

If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it.
A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.

If a conservative reads this, he'll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh.
A liberal will delete it because he's "offended."

The main difference between conservative and liberal is one tends to have more empathy...the other takes pride in not having it......ESPECIALLY for people who are not "like them"

That’s just nonsense, BOTH sides tend to express empathy but only for other people THAT AGREE WITH THEIR WORLD VIEW.

A phenomenon that you just demonstrated.

That is just fact.....

Conservatives would vote for Medicare For All today if they could ensure that those "others" don't get it too....


And even some studies have shown that yea, Conservatives can be compassionate and have empathy.....but:

"...findings suggest that conservatives are simply more likely to extend that empathy only to their kin."

And as for the present state of Conservatism....what is it? Is it showing fealty to one man or is it something else?

Every time folks claim they have nominated a "true conservative" as a presidential candidate......afterwards we hear all sorts of excuses as to why that particular candidate wasn't really a Conservative

Completely different argument, you’re wanting to conflate the fact that conservatism as an ideology is adrift with a seemingly incoherent set of principles (which by the way, I agree with) with the fact that both “liberals” and “conservatives” tend to show a empathy only to those that see the world the same way they do.

BOTH sides are guilty of consistently de-humanizing the other and thus abandoning any empathy to those they de-humanize, that behaviour is demonstrated here ALL THE TIME.

I can only think of a handful of posters here that consistently display universal empathy in what they post (e.g. the aptly named Care4all comes to mind), the majority however consistently display a total disregard for the well-being of those that they view as members of the other tribe.

I just what happens when people get trapped in confirmation bias echo chambers where their suspicions that the “other side” is “evil” are constantly reinforced.

 

[NightFox]

Some differences between conservatives and liberals​

If a liberal doesn’t like bad news they work to correct the cause of the problem

If a conservative doesn’t like bad news they claim it is fake and make up their own facts

More like,

If a “liberal” or a “conservative” doesn’t like bad news they try to figure out how to blame it on the other side.

 

[Moonglow]

Some differences between conservatives and liberals​

If a liberal doesn’t like bad news they work to correct the cause of the problem

If a conservative doesn’t like bad news they claim it is fake and make up their own facts

More like,

If a “liberal” or a “conservative” doesn’t like bad news they try to figure out how to blame it on the other side.

Which is why they need a third party.

 

[Lesh]

Sounds like BS to me.

Cause it is

 

[dblack]

Focusing just on the important differences between the parties, here's my list:

 

[NightFox]

Some differences between conservatives and liberals​

If a liberal doesn’t like bad news they work to correct the cause of the problem

If a conservative doesn’t like bad news they claim it is fake and make up their own facts

More like,

If a “liberal” or a “conservative” doesn’t like bad news they try to figure out how to blame it on the other side.

Which is why they need a third party.

We already have a bunch of “third” parties, the problem is that the duopoly has such pervasive control of the political system that none of them have a prayer when it comes to gaining significant traction on the national level.

For it to work, you have to completely upend the current system and that’s something I don’t see a lot of appetite for among the electorate or the donor base.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

If you ever wondered what side of the political fence you sit on, this is a great test:

If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a liberal doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.

If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
A liberal, wonders who is going to take care of him.

If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat.
If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meats banned for everyone.

If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Liberals demand that those they don't like be shut down.

If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and Jesus silenced.

If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it.
A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.

If a conservative reads this, he'll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh.
A liberal will delete it because he's "offended."

The main difference between conservative and liberal is one tends to have more empathy...the other takes pride in not having it......ESPECIALLY for people who are not "like them"

That’s just nonsense, BOTH sides tend to express empathy but only for other people THAT AGREE WITH THEIR WORLD VIEW.

A phenomenon that you just demonstrated.

That is just fact.....

Conservatives would vote for Medicare For All today if they could ensure that those "others" don't get it too....


And even some studies have shown that yea, Conservatives can be compassionate and have empathy.....but:

"...findings suggest that conservatives are simply more likely to extend that empathy only to their kin."

And as for the present state of Conservatism....what is it? Is it showing fealty to one man or is it something else?

Every time folks claim they have nominated a "true conservative" as a presidential candidate......afterwards we hear all sorts of excuses as to why that particular candidate wasn't really a Conservative

Completely different argument, you’re wanting to conflate the fact that conservatism as an ideology is adrift with a seemingly incoherent set of principles (which by the way, I agree with) with the fact that both “liberals” and “conservatives” tend to show a empathy only to those that see the world the same way they do.

BOTH sides are guilty of consistently de-humanizing the other and thus abandoning any empathy to those they de-humanize, that behaviour is demonstrated here ALL THE TIME.

I can only think of a handful of posters here that consistently display universal empathy in what they post (e.g. the aptly named Care4all comes to mind), the majority however consistently display a total disregard for the well-being of those that they view as members of the other tribe.

I just what happens when people get trapped in confirmation bias echo chambers where their suspicions that the “other side” is “evil” are constantly reinforced.

How is wanting everyone to have quality and affordable healthcare (including Conservatives) -- dehumanizing someone??

How is being opposed to the dehumanizing of historically marginalized groups like women, racial minorities, gays, etc -- how is that dehumanizing Conservatives??

How is wanting to expand Social Security for EVERYONE; not just the people we like -- how is that dehumanizing Conservatives??

The most popular conservative policies and rhetoric I hear is always predicated on punishing or "triggering" someone else.....


it seems to me that what triggers Conservatives the most is when you hold a mirror to their face and they actually don't like their reflection....

Talk to me about these "dehumanizing" policies being pushed by progressives?

 

[NightFox]

If you ever wondered what side of the political fence you sit on, this is a great test:

If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a liberal doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.

If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
A liberal, wonders who is going to take care of him.

If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat.
If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meats banned for everyone.

If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Liberals demand that those they don't like be shut down.

If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and Jesus silenced.

If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it.
A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.

If a conservative reads this, he'll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh.
A liberal will delete it because he's "offended."

The main difference between conservative and liberal is one tends to have more empathy...the other takes pride in not having it......ESPECIALLY for people who are not "like them"

That’s just nonsense, BOTH sides tend to express empathy but only for other people THAT AGREE WITH THEIR WORLD VIEW.

A phenomenon that you just demonstrated.

That is just fact.....

Conservatives would vote for Medicare For All today if they could ensure that those "others" don't get it too....


And even some studies have shown that yea, Conservatives can be compassionate and have empathy.....but:

"...findings suggest that conservatives are simply more likely to extend that empathy only to their kin."

And as for the present state of Conservatism....what is it? Is it showing fealty to one man or is it something else?

Every time folks claim they have nominated a "true conservative" as a presidential candidate......afterwards we hear all sorts of excuses as to why that particular candidate wasn't really a Conservative

Completely different argument, you’re wanting to conflate the fact that conservatism as an ideology is adrift with a seemingly incoherent set of principles (which by the way, I agree with) with the fact that both “liberals” and “conservatives” tend to show a empathy only to those that see the world the same way they do.

BOTH sides are guilty of consistently de-humanizing the other and thus abandoning any empathy to those they de-humanize, that behaviour is demonstrated here ALL THE TIME.

I can only think of a handful of posters here that consistently display universal empathy in what they post (e.g. the aptly named Care4all comes to mind), the majority however consistently display a total disregard for the well-being of those that they view as members of the other tribe.

I just what happens when people get trapped in confirmation bias echo chambers where their suspicions that the “other side” is “evil” are constantly reinforced.

How is wanting everyone to have quality and affordable healthcare (including Conservatives) -- dehumanizing someone??

How is being opposed to the dehumanizing of historically marginalized groups like women, racial minorities, gays, etc -- how is that dehumanizing Conservatives??

It isn’t, it’s when “conservatives” voice their disagreement with those viewpoints that the de-humanizing begins.

How is wanting to expand Social Security for EVERYONE; not just the people we like -- how is that dehumanizing Conservatives??

The most popular conservative policies and rhetoric I hear is always predicated on punishing or "triggering" someone else.....


it seems to me that what triggers Conservatives the most is when you hold a mirror to their face and they actually don't like their reflection....

Talk to me about these "dehumanizing" policies being pushed by progressives?

Open your ears, it’s not about “policies” it’s all about the fact that both sides demonize those that DISAGREE with their “policy” prescriptions.

You don’t seem to consider the fact that “conservatives” might want exactly the same things you do but just have different ideas regarding how to achieve those things. It’s much easier for you to demonize them all as “racists” or “sexists” or whatever the flavor of the month “ist” happens to be. “Conservatives” do the same thing to “liberals”.

NEITHER side is interested in actually listening to the other sides argument, all they want to do build straw men and demonize.

 

[Jets]

This is why it pays to sit on the fence and be a mugwump.

 

[forkup]

If you ever wondered what side of the political fence you sit on, this is a great test:

If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a liberal doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.

If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
A liberal, wonders who is going to take care of him.

If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat.
If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meats banned for everyone.

If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Liberals demand that those they don't like be shut down.

If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and Jesus silenced.

If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it.
A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.

If a conservative reads this, he'll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh.
A liberal will delete it because he's "offended."

Sounds like BS to me.

Which do you disagree with, sounds legit to me

It probably would sound legit to you. The problem is that that opinion doesn't really have any bearing on it actually being legit.

SPECIFICALLY, I have a problem with the fact that the entire OP is based on a hasty generalisation. It presumes that Conservative and Liberals have a set of vague character traits that you can apply to all of them.

Even more specifically, their are undoubtedly conservatives that don't think it's good that the U.S has a gun violence rate that rivals that of third world countries just like there are Liberals who like playing with guns and feel that to be a protected right.

I know that their are millions of Conservatives that receive government benifits.

I know that their are millions of Conservatives who have absolutely no problem with legislation IMPOSING their belief on other people. Be it on issues of sexuality, abortion or religion being taught in science lessons.

I know that their are millions of conservatives on medicare, medicaid or are insured through ACA.

I know that I'm personally not offended by this post, find it mildly amusing and wouldn't dream of wanting this testament of stupidity deleted yet I'm no Conservative.

Your "test" seems ill conceived.

 

[rightwinger]

Some differences between conservatives and liberals​

If a liberal doesn’t like bad news they work to correct the cause of the problem

If a conservative doesn’t like bad news they claim it is fake and make up their own facts

More like,

If a “liberal” or a “conservative” doesn’t like bad news they try to figure out how to blame it on the other side.

Which is why they need a third party.

We already have a bunch of “third” parties, the problem is that the duopoly has such pervasive control of the political system that none of them have a prayer when it comes to gaining significant traction on the national level.

For it to work, you have to completely upend the current system and that’s something I don’t see a lot of appetite for among the electorate or the donor base.

The problem with third parties is they run on the fringes. Far Left or Far Right. They only ensure that the opposite side wins.

We need a third party that runs from the middle. Moderate Liberal and Moderate Conservative. While they may not win a Majority, they can control the agenda with their swing vote.

 

[Blues Man]

Blues Man change Liberal to Progressives and you would be correct…

The original statement is correct

 

[NightFox]

Some differences between conservatives and liberals​

If a liberal doesn’t like bad news they work to correct the cause of the problem

If a conservative doesn’t like bad news they claim it is fake and make up their own facts

More like,

If a “liberal” or a “conservative” doesn’t like bad news they try to figure out how to blame it on the other side.

Which is why they need a third party.

We already have a bunch of “third” parties, the problem is that the duopoly has such pervasive control of the political system that none of them have a prayer when it comes to gaining significant traction on the national level.

For it to work, you have to completely upend the current system and that’s something I don’t see a lot of appetite for among the electorate or the donor base.

The problem with third parties is they run on the fringes. Far Left or Far Right. They only ensure that the opposite side wins.

We need a third party that runs from the middle. Moderate Liberal and Moderate Conservative. While they may not win a Majority, they can control the agenda with their swing vote.

That’s been attempted as well (and still is being attempted by some groups) and there are numerous factors for why it hasn’t worked from the fact that partisan energy is generally generated by motivated activists to the fact that the duopoly has put in place very effective strategies for blocking access to the ballot, high barriers to entry with respect to campaign financing and duopoly domination of the media.

Our political system is designed around entrenching the power of the existing duopoly, you *might* REPLACE one of the two parties with a new party that’s called something else but the same people that belonged to the party that gets replaced will still gravitate to the new one, ending up with the same binary system we have today.

Heck we can’t even seem to do a simple thing like removing party labels from the ballots in order to encourage voters to do at least a little bit of homework before pulling the lever. Apparently the electorate prefers a binary system where they don’t really have to think too much about the choices and can just vote based on BRAND LOYALTY.