Sinema to deliver a Senate floor "double down" against Biden's filibuster attacks

[B. Kidd]

Tom Cotton made a speech just yesterday consisting entirely of Chuck Schumer's pro filibuster comments.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...t_comments_in_defense_of_the_filibuster_.html

Such an awesome clever move. I wonder if democrats have any problems with it?

They're too busy stuffing bags manually with worms! .

 

[BlindBoo]

No matter what others criticize 'the Turtle' for, he is a genius at getting Repub judges affirmed!!

Too bad for you.

It hasn't effected my life one bit. He only had to lower the standard to a simple majority vote for the SC nominees to pack the court with hacks. The two Democrats are living in a world of make believe to think the next time the Neo-GOP have non super-majority control that they wont do away with it to stop the Democrats from blocking their legislative agenda. Trumpybear has already called for them to do it.

 

[basquebromance]

 

[Dragonlady]

I was thinking about that the other day. Their agenda is so unpopular that even their own party is blocking it.

That's what happens when you are illegitimate. Your ideas didn't win, your cheating machinery did.

Their agenda is popular with 80% of the voters. Their agenda isn’t unpopular. The United States is run by a group of rich people who are determined to keep money out of the hands of working people.

Joe Manchin drives a Maserati but he doesn’t want his voters to get a $300 tax cut to help hungry children. Republicans and conservatives believe that poor people won’t work unless they’re forced to. Manchan has even said this right out loud.

Studies routinely show that this is false.Studies show that people who get financial help to keep them stable and able to pay for food and utilities, are far more likely to go to work.

Studies from the 80s and 90s show that government assistance in the form of “earned income credits” actually encouraged poor people to find jobs. So of course the republican party went to far and stopped giving wage increases to lower wage workers and gave only expanded earned income credits and other government assistance to low wage workers.

Corporations were incentivized to keep wages low and let the government subsidize their low income workers. But middle class tax payers and low income workers were being squeezed by wage flat wages.

Last but certainly not least, Republicans could blame the poor and the cost of these income supplements and wage subsidies for rising budget deficits instead of placing the blame squarely on the corporations and their use of government programs to subsidize wages.

Wages, as a percentage of costs, are now at the same levels as they were in the Gilded Age. Corporations have absorbed increases in cost of plants, machinery, insurance, transportation and raw materials and are now more profitable than at any time in history, but their workers are living on food stamps.

Does that make any kind of economic sense to you.

 

[The Original Tree]

Their agenda is popular with 80% of the voters. Their agenda isn’t unpopular. The United States is run by a group of rich people who are determined to keep money out of the hands of working people.

Joe Manchin drives a Maserati but he doesn’t want his voters to get a $300 tax cut to help hungry children. Republicans and conservatives believe that poor people won’t work unless they’re forced to. Manchan has even said this right out loud.

Studies routinely show that this is false.Studies show that people who get financial help to keep them stable and able to pay for food and utilities, are far more likely to go to work.

Studies from the 80s and 90s show that government assistance in the form of “earned income credits” actually encouraged poor people to find jobs. So of course the republican party went to far and stopped giving wage increases to lower wage workers and gave only expanded earned income credits and other government assistance to low wage workers.

Corporations were incentivized to keep wages low and let the government subsidize their low income workers. But middle class tax payers and low income workers were being squeezed by wage flat wages.

Last but certainly not least, Republicans could blame the poor and the cost of these income supplements and wage subsidies for rising budget deficits instead of placing the blame squarely on the corporations and their use of government programs to subsidize wages.

Wages, as a percentage of costs, are now at the same levels as they were in the Gilded Age. Corporations have absorbed increases in cost of plants, machinery, insurance, transportation and raw materials and are now more profitable than at any time in history, but their workers are living on food stamps.

Does that make any kind of economic sense to you.

Just another lie among the mountain of lies you all we be judged for.

More Democrat Lies

• 81 Million Voters Legitimately voted for Biden who was more popular than Obama: Leftist Lies
• Joe Biden is loved by 80% of America despite only having an overall approval rating of 33%: Leftist Lies
• Russian Collusion: Leftist Lie
• Man Made Global Warming is not a strategy to push Global Government and fund pet projects for Leftists: Leftist Lie
• RAPID PCR tests do not render millions of false positives: Leftist Lie
• 2 Weeks to flatten the curve: Leftist Lie
• Biden's Covid Mandate policies are not causing mental illness in school children: Leftist Lie
• Critical Race Theory is not racist against ordinary Americans: Leftist Lie
• Parents concerned about their children's education and who voice those concerns are Domestic Terrorists: Leftist Lie
• The Biden Administration did not reach out to school boards and tell them that parents were Domestic Terrorists and show them how to get them all arrested: Leftist Lie
• The CDC did not pull Emergency Authorization of Rapid PCR tests for Corona because SCOTUS was going to overturn The Mandate, and PCR tests overinflated COVID numbers: Leftist Lie
• For Profit Hospitals were not declaring every single death, even motorcycle accidents as a COVID fatality even when the patient had 4 comorbidities: Leftist Lie
• Democrat Run Large Cities did not send Elderly COVID patients back in to Nursing Homes to infect the entire nursing home. Leftist Lie
• Joe Biden did not Extort Ukraine: Leftist Lie
• Hunter Biden and Joe Biden did not accept money from China and Russia: Leftist Lie
• Obama did not remove the ban on Gain of Function 10 days before Trump took office, did not send Fauci to Wuhan, and did not order The Defense Department to pay for COVID19 development by laundering the money through EcoHealth: Leftist Lie
• Hillary Clinton and Obama were not using Benghazi as a weapons depot to arm and finance Al Queda in Libya so that they could topple the government there and assassinate Qadaffi: Leftist Lie
• Obama did not fund The Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist organization to launch a COUP in Egypt and overthrow Egypt's government: Leftist Lie
• Obama did not give Iran $150 Billion to pay for Russian Scientists, Centrifuges, and Missile Technology so Iran could develop Nukes to take Israel out with: Leftist Lie
• Joe Biden did not gift $80 Billion in weapons and technology to The Taliban and did not leave Americans behind when he retreated: Leftist Lie
• Obama, Clinton and Biden did not approve The Uranium One Deal knowing that Putin was going to use his Rosatom company to buy Uranium One so that Russia could gain access to, and control US Uranium supplies which ultimately ended up in Iran's hands: Leftist Lies
• Hillary Clinton did not have an illegal secret server in her home that she communicated with Obama on, and both of them never lied about it: Leftist Lie
• Hillary Clinton did not have classified information on that server: Leftist Lie
• Hillary Clinton did not delete 30,000 emails on that server in violation of a Court Order: Leftist Lie
• Hillary Clinton, Schultz, and The Obama Administration did not hire Pakistani Hackers to hack in to Congressional Files and Records to obtain dirt on Congressmen: Leftist Lies
• Seth Rich was not given any of Podesta Emails by The Pakistani Hackers who uncovered the fact that Hillary Clinton was rigging her primaries to the detriment of Sanders, and Seth Rich was killed in a robbery despite no one taking anything from him: Leftist Lies
• The 2020 Election was not stolen despite the fact all battleground states vote counting was stopped simultaneously in the wee hours of the morning and when restarted millions of votes suddenly appeared instantaneously in Biden's column despite the fact that he was losing badly in every battle ground state before the simultaneous shutdown of the count: Leftist Lie
• Vince Foster and Epstein committed Suicide: Leftist Lies.

 

[basquebromance]

Replace Sinema | Because Arizonans Deserve Better

If you're with us, sign your name.

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"Sinema is out of step with Arizonans—and not just Democrats. Sinema is opposing bills and reforms supported by broad, bipartisan majorities of Arizonans. According to a Data for Progress survey, 62% of Arizona voters support raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour (which Senator Sinema opposed in controversial fashion), while 61% of the state’s voters agree that it is “more important to you that your Senators pass major legislation to address the problems we face as a nation” versus 26% who believe it more important “that they preserve traditional Senate procedures and rules like the filibuster.” Just 36% of independents in a March poll viewing her favorably; meanwhile, Senator Sinema’s most prominent Republican backer from her 2018 election, former Arizona Attorney General (and McCain family confidante) Grant Woods, declared that Sinema does not belong in the U.S. Senate if she fails to come around on filibuster removal. Katie Hobbs, Arizona’s Secretary of State who has championed voting rights and called for abolishing the filibuster, is currently the most popular politician in Arizona.

Sinema is empowering Mitch McConnell at Biden’s expense. In an evenly divided Senate, no one benefits from Sinema’s obstruction more than Senator Mitch McConnell. McConnell knows this and has instructed Senate Republicans to praise her. At a closed-door meeting of Senate Republicans last April, he urged his conference to “say nice things” about Sinema. He dispatched his top lieutenant, Senator John Thune, who frequently “chats up” Sinema, according to Politico. The manipulation is transparent and transactional, but that has not stopped Sinema from playing along, and empowering McConnell in the process. As Punchbowl reported, “This is what Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell and Republicans are hoping to exploit all year,” and Sinema is playing right into their hands.

Edited to small/medium clip.

 

[basquebromance]

This is not a divisive issue, this is about the future of democracy. Without the protection of voting rights, democracy fails. We are disappointed to say the least that Senator Sinema has chosen to protect an antiquated rule over her constituents

 

[The Original Tree]

This is not a divisive issue, this is about the future of democracy. Without the protection of voting rights, democracy fails. We are disappointed to say the least that Senator Sinema has chosen to protect an antiquated rule over her constituents

There is no Democracy fool when The GOV can demand you be needle raped or lose your job.

Why did Obama work with The CCP to have America attacked by a BIOWEAPON he and Fauci arranged to be developed in an election year?

Think Dirty Dossier as a clue to your answer.

 

[basquebromance]

 

[Papageorgio]

Sinema is so full of shit. Neither she nor Manchion can articulate WHY the filibuster must stay in place. It's anti democratic and in its current form, completely stifles debate. Being able to "phone in" a filibuster is ludicrous.

So, if the House, Senate and Presidency were all in the hands of the Republicans, you would still want to do away with the filibuster?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Nobody expects the filibuster to go away.

They're just going through the motions so they can say they tried.

Glad our leaders are wasting time going through the motions. Maybe we should elect better ones?

 

[22lcidw]

This is not a divisive issue, this is about the future of democracy. Without the protection of voting rights, democracy fails. We are disappointed to say the least that Senator Sinema has chosen to protect an antiquated rule over her constituents

As a feasibility study, let the Progs bring up a Bill to remove or reduce the power of all our spy agencies, national law enforcement, DOJ, Homeland Security and strike down the Patriot Act. Temper the TSA and reduce the amount of observation cameras on the people. We never hear of this.

 

[candycorn]

The only thing worse than having a filibuster is not having a filibuster.

 

[struth]

Yeah it is. The filibuster, in its current form, stifles debate. One guy sitting on the toilet can object to legislation and it never gets brought up for discussion. That seem democratic to you? If you object to a piece of legislation, you should be able to articulate that argument and attempt to convince others to your side. The filibuster for legislation is bullshit.

haha the filibuster is a tactic used DURING debate. The 60 votes, cloture, is a vote to close debate

 

[task0778]

From what I gather, usually 60 votes is required in the Senate to both open and close debate on a bill. But for the Voting Rights Bill, it will reach the Senate floor through a convoluted process that begins with the House passage of a bill to give NASA new authority to lease property. House Democrats will bring the NASA bill for a vote and amend it by attaching the Freedom to Vote: John R. Lewis Act to it. Since the NASA bill had previously passed the House and been amended and passed in the Senate, it will go directly to the floor of the Senate, bypassing the filibuster on the motion to open debate, so that debate can begin. But the bill will still be subject to a 60-vote threshold on a motion to end debate and move to final passage.

The democrats want to pressure Manchin and Sinema if they can to support that bill, but failing that they will make a spectacle of impassioned support for democracy and fair elections in playing to their political base. Neither of which they give a crap about BTW, this bill is designed to keep the democrats in power.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

it's amazing to me that (2) democrats are what is killing the entire entitlement dreams of the "progressives" out there.

Well, welcome to our obsolete system of dysfunctional government.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Glad our leaders are wasting time going through the motions.

Me too. It shows people where the senators stand on voting rights. Not as if anyone paying attention did not already know.

 

[B. Kidd]

Me too. It shows people where the senators stand on voting rights. Not as if anyone paying attention did not already know.

You're losing, loser.
And you thought you were a winner.
This is very, very golden!

 

[task0778]

Me too. It shows people where the senators stand on voting rights. Not as if anyone paying attention did not already know.

No, it shows where she stands on the filibuster. I think she said she would support the voting rights bills.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

No, it shows where she stands on the filibuster

I was referring to the larger effort, not just Sinema's comments. Re-read.