Zone1 Who is a more virtuous man?

[Dante]

Are you trying to tell me Pelosi was just one great business statement analyst and she knew the stock prices were undervalued and she timed it so perfectly?

You destroy any credibility you had with the suggestion that politicians aren't stealing from citizens. It is clear as day in some instances and there is rarely if ever any consequences.

There you go again. You obviously mistake memes and headlines for actual fact.

Try a few facts:

Wealth Drivers and Investment Strategy

• Source of Wealth: The majority of the wealth is attributed to massive, high-performing stock investments and real estate holdings managed by her husband, venture capitalist Paul Pelosi.
• Key Holdings: The Pelosis own significant stakes in major technology companies, including Apple (valued at $25–$50 million), Nvidia, Microsoft, Amazon, and Google.
• Performance: Over the past 37 years, the Pelosi portfolio has generated approximately $130 million in profits, with a reported 16,900% return, significantly outperforming the broader market.
• Real Estate: Their assets include commercial real estate in California, a Napa Valley vineyard, and a San Francisco mansion.
• Investment Firm: Paul Pelosi runs Financial Leasing Services Inc., a venture capital investment and consulting firm.

 

[shockedcanadian]

There you go again. You obviously mistake memes and headlines for actual fact.

Try a few facts:

Wealth Drivers and Investment Strategy

• Source of Wealth: The majority of the wealth is attributed to massive, high-performing stock investments and real estate holdings managed by her husband, venture capitalist Paul Pelosi.
• Key Holdings: The Pelosis own significant stakes in major technology companies, including Apple (valued at $25–$50 million), Nvidia, Microsoft, Amazon, and Google.
• Performance: Over the past 37 years, the Pelosi portfolio has generated approximately $130 million in profits, with a reported 16,900% return, significantly outperforming the broader market.
• Real Estate: Their assets include commercial real estate in California, a Napa Valley vineyard, and a San Francisco mansion.
• Investment Firm: Paul Pelosi runs Financial Leasing Services Inc., a venture capital investment and consulting firm.

Well, I just follow the public sentiment, no one can say for certain one way or another. Unless a full investigation and a court proceeding, we can just assert analogous evidence.

I asked A.I to decide:

Pelosis likely benefited from inside information often point to the following patterns:

• Exceptional Timing: Critics emphasize the "luck" required to execute large, high-conviction trades in specific sectors—most notably technology—immediately before those sectors received favorable legislative support or regulatory clarity.
• The Nature of Options Trading: Paul Pelosi frequently utilizes long-term equity anticipation securities (LEAPS) or call options. Options are high-leverage instruments that require precise timing to be profitable. Using such instruments suggests a high degree of confidence in the short-to-medium-term price movement of the underlying assets.
• Systemic Information Asymmetry: As Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi had access to sensitive briefings on market-moving legislative calendars. Critics argue it is practically impossible to fully "wall off" a spouse from the general atmosphere of policy priorities, even if no direct exchange of non-public data occurred.

If one evaluates this through the lens of appearance and ethics , the balance of public sentiment leans toward a conflict of interest. The ability for high-ranking officials to trade individual stocks in sectors they oversee creates an inherent "appearance of impropriety," which is why many argue for a total ban on the practice regardless of whether illegal activity is occurring.

 

[Dante]

Well, I just follow the public sentiment, no one can say for certain one way or another.

I asked A.I to decide:

Pelosis likely benefited from inside information often point to the following patterns:

• Exceptional Timing: Critics emphasize the "luck" required to execute large, high-conviction trades in specific sectors—most notably technology—immediately before those sectors received favorable legislative support or regulatory clarity.
• The Nature of Options Trading: Paul Pelosi frequently utilizes long-term equity anticipation securities (LEAPS) or call options. Options are high-leverage instruments that require precise timing to be profitable. Using such instruments suggests a high degree of confidence in the short-to-medium-term price movement of the underlying assets.
• Systemic Information Asymmetry: As Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi had access to sensitive briefings on market-moving legislative calendars. Critics argue it is practically impossible to fully "wall off" a spouse from the general atmosphere of policy priorities, even if no direct exchange of non-public data occurred.

If one evaluates this through the lens of appearance and ethics , the balance of public sentiment leans toward a conflict of interest. The ability for high-ranking officials to trade individual stocks in sectors they oversee creates an inherent "appearance of impropriety," which is why many argue for a total ban on the practice regardless of whether illegal activity is occurring.

Public sentiment is that Trump is a rapist. Follow that.

Facts are facts. Pelosi has had to file financial disclosures for decades. You know, the things Trump always resists doing.

and an AI bot can be garbage in, garbage out - depending on HOW a question is asked. I do it all of the time for people that need help understanding. Just rephrase a question and see.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Public sentiment is that Trump is a rapist. Follow that.

Facts are facts. Pelosi has had to file financial disclosures for decades. You know, the things Trump always resists doing.

Wow

 

[Dante]

Wow

Yep:

Public sentiment is that Trump is a rapist. Follow that.
Facts are facts. Pelosi has had to file financial disclosures for decades. You know, the things Trump always resists doing.
Wow, is right.

 

[Dante]

Here has been the problem, for decades the West had slick politicians who were manicured by MSM, smiling, waving their plastic finger as they allowed China to steal their industries and they filled their own pockets.

Trump came along and broke the mold. Loud, unapologetic, undiplomatic.

Trump came along and normalized GRIFT. Why you people turn a blind eye on it is pretty appalling. Just look at how you judge others without any real evidence to suggest anything despicable, like the Trump family grifting

 

[Eman623]

Wow! Conflate things much? How is one related to the other here.

What the lady meant was not just that "People are going to die". The unspoken part of that comment was, "More people are going to die without the Covid era Medicaid subsidies, than would if we kept them." Arguably true, so where do we find the money to restore them? The lady in the back (and almost certainly David French) would probably say, "Tax the corporations and billionaires!"

Ernst's comment was insensitive and she apologized. OTOH French's sniffy indignation over people wanting to keep their own money is an order of magnitude less virtuous. How much more do you need Dave? 50%? 90%? You be sure to tell me when you get enough! I wouldn't want you thinking me selfish or unvirtuous!

 

[marvin martian]

Religion is a tool. I don't blame guns either.

What do you do when the pie isn't big enough to feed the people at the table?

If you're a Democrat, you throw the pie in the trash and try to kill everyone on the other side of the table.

 

[Dante]

What the lady meant was not just that "People are going to die". The unspoken part of that comment was, "More people are going to die without the Covid era Medicaid subsidies, than would if we kept them." Arguably true, so where do we find the money to restore them? The lady in the back (and almost certainly David French) would probably say, "Tax the corporations and billionaires!"

Ernst's comment was insensitive and she apologized. OTOH French's sniffy indignation over people wanting to keep their own money is an order of magnitude less virtuous. How much more do you need Dave? 50%? 90%? You be sure to tell me when you get enough! I wouldn't want you thinking me selfish or unvirtuous!

conspiracy theory alert!

 

[BreezeWood]

But there are too many of us out here who do not want our healthcare turned over to the same people who run Amtrak, the Post Office and the VA. Sorry.

you are joking - there are as many greedy, loathing people in healthcare presently as all the others without exception. have you ever considered reformation for all concerned and not just for your own preference.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

Doper culture has produced a lot of kids being fed and raised by their grandparents and great grandparents, so yes, Medicare cuts affects a lot of people besides people too old to get a job anywhere and refuse to go off and die in ditches to please right wing sociopaths and spoiled brats. And for the laissez faire fantasists who apparently are no more in touch with reality than left wing Burb Brats running around in Che t shirts, no company is going to hire a 78 year old and provide them with health insurance as a bennie. Even for middle class families they aren't really 'middle class' any more when parents and aunts and whoever have to move in and require care.

So, go ahead and kill off Social Security and Medicare. It will be back in a month, and people will then demand a lot more for it. You would be cutting your own throats politically. We don't have an agrarian society where everybody has 100 acres and 20 kids to work it any more. We have a post-industrial society with a heavily urbanized population. It wasn't 'lazy poor people' who demanded and created that.

One of the great attractions of early Christianity was the churches functioning as a social services network. That sort of network was no longer supportable by the late 19th and early 20th century. The Great Depression proved that, just as it proved the 'laissez faire' rubbish was a sad myth. It was impossible for churches to fill the gap of basic needs for unemployed and working poor laid off and now working for reduced wages, if they were lucky. Too many people compressed in small areas around empty factories, while the main destroyers of the economy ran and hid out on their estates behind private armies and sniveled about all the lazy poor people n stuff. A few of the brighter capitalists knew a new system was needed, and eventually managed to create one that has worked very well, up until a couple of generations of spoiled brats and their amoral fantasies have corrupted it and will probably crash it.

 

[Dante]

Doper culture has produced a lot of kids being fed and raised by their grandparents and great grandparents, so yes, Medicare cuts affects a lot of people besides people too old to get a job anywhere and refuse to go off and die in ditches to please right wing sociopaths and spoiled brats. And for the laissez faire fantasists who apparently are no more in touch with reality than left wing Burb Brats running around in Che t shirts, no company is going to hire a 78 year old and provide them with health insurance as a bennie. Even for middle class families they aren't really 'middle class' any more when parents and aunts and whoever have to move in and require care.

So, go ahead and kill off Social Security and Medicare. It will be back in a month, and people will then demand a lot more for it. You would be cutting your own throats politically. We don't have an agrarian society where everybody has 100 acres and 20 kids to work it any more. We have a post-industrial society with a heavily urbanized population. It wasn't 'lazy poor people' who demanded and created that.

One of the great attractions of early Christianity was the churches functioning as a social services network. That sort of network was no longer supportable by the late 19th and early 20th century. The Great Depression proved that, just as it proved the 'laissez faire' rubbish was a sad myth. It was impossible for churches to fill the gap of basic needs for unemployed and working poor laid off and now working for reduced wages, if they were lucky. Too many people compressed in small areas around empty factories, while the main destroyers of the economy ran and hid out on their estates behind private armies and sniveled about all the lazy poor people n stuff. A few of the brighter capitalists knew a new system was needed, and eventually managed to create one that has worked very well, up until a couple of generations of spoiled brats and their amoral fantasies have corrupted it and will probably crash it.

Too bad you can't write something sans all those juvenile and sophomoric labels and some seriously twisted reasoning

 

[pal]

Jesus are more truth than Mohammed and even Allah are truth in the most things defiance terrorists scream at the US and the West.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

Too bad you can't write something sans all those juvenile and sophomoric labels and some seriously twisted reasoning

Yes, I understand you're a sociopath and think anybody who doesn't have lots of dough from Mommy and Daddy should die in ditches somewhere. This is a typical opinion of spoiled brats.

 

[ding]

Too bad you can't write something sans all those juvenile and sophomoric labels and some seriously twisted reasoning

Life is unfair. Expect to make sacrifices.

 

[Dante]

Yes, I understand you're a sociopath and think anybody who doesn't have lots of dough from Mommy and Daddy should die in ditches somewhere. This is a typical opinion of spoiled brats.

Your post is one weird piece of caca

 

[Dante]

Life is unfair. Expect to make sacrifices.

You first.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

Your post is one weird piece of caca

Like we care about your degenerate opinions of us.

 

[ding]

You first.

But of course, few things in life make me happier.

 

[BreezeWood]

But of course, few things in life make me happier.

as using false commandments, religion - to persecute and victimize the innocent.