Sinema Caves After Manchin Sells Out

[Donald H]

Harris set to cast deciding vote

Sinema agrees to 'move forward' with social spending and tax bill after Dems make changes

Sen. Kyrsten Sinema will "move forward" with Democrats' reconciliation bill, she said in a Thursday statement, in a major victory for Senate Democrats.

www.foxnews.com

She hasn't sold out. Wait for the caveats.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

With VP Harris' vote taken into account the makeup of The Senate currently stands at 51 (Dems) to 50 (Cons).

Who's your daddy NOW fool?

You suck at math. We have 100 senators not 101.

 

[Donald H]

There's just no way that America will ever pass this thing intact. if anything it will be watered down to becoming quite meaningless.

This represents the final victory or the final defeat for Biden and the Dems.

 

[MagicMike]

We

No, the Senate is split 50/50 full stop. Half the country elected the GOP to represent them. We get Dems want to ignore half the people in this country, we oppose that. You Dems would be having a conniption fit if things were reversed and you know it.

Already been there done that!
Remember when McConnel wouldn't allow a vote on Merrick Garland for SCOTUS because (he said) it was "too close to the election....but then he turned around four years later and rushed the vote on Amy Coney Barret RIGHT BEFORE the election?

You suck at math. We have 100 senators not 101.

You suck at math. We have 100 senators not 101.

Let's see if you can understand the remedial approach.

WHO is responsible for casting tie breaking votes in The Senate?
Now....is that person currently a Democrat or a Republican?

No, the Senate is split 50/50 full stop. Half the country elected the GOP to represent them. We get Dems want to ignore half the people in this country, we oppose that. You Dems would be having a conniption fit if things were reversed and you know it.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

We

Already been there done that!
Remember when McConnel wouldn't allow a vote on Merrick Garland for SCOTUS because (he said) it was "too close to the election....but then he turned around four years later and rushed the vote on Amy Coney Barret RIGHT BEFORE the election?



Let's see if you can understand the remedial approach.

WHO is responsible for casting tie breaking votes in The Senate?
Now....is that person currently a Democrat or a Republican?

A lot of word salad that did not refute what I said. We have 100 senators not 101

 

[MagicMike]

A lot of word salad that did not refute what I said. We have 100 senators not 101

No one is disputing that.
50 Democrat Senators + 1 Democrat VP = A MAJORITY!
Or are you trying to disagree that 51>50?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Sunema and Manchin are both low grade people.
They should be in the GOP really.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

No one is disputing that.
50 Democrat Senators + 1 Democrat VP = A MAJORITY!
Or are you trying to disagree that 51>50?

A slim majority with the help of the VP to passpat yourself on the back.

 

[j-mac]

Sure, such "patriots" republicans are.
They claim to "love" their country but don't want to support it, after the $8 trillion, in debt THEY racked up?

They didn't even want to pay THEIR bills.

September 14 2021
Republicans are digging in on their promise to vote against increasing the debt ceiling, lining up in defiance.

For months, Minority Leader Mitch McConnell has been unequivocal: his caucus won't support hiking the debt ceiling. In August, 46 Republican senators signed a letter declaring they wouldn't help Democrats with the 60 votes needed to raise the debt ceiling.

They claim to 'love' the military but don't support vets.

July 28 2022

• 41 Republican senators voted against a bill that would expand healthcare for veterans exposed to burn pits.
• Senate Republicans on Wednesday blocked a bipartisan bill that would expand healthcare benefits to veterans exposed to toxins from burn pits — an unexpected move that's sparked outrage from Democrats and activists.

"The nonpartisan organization (JCT) found that Americans in nearly every tax bracket will pay more taxes if the Inflation Reduction Act becomes law.

In 2023, for example, Americans who earn less than $10,000 will see their average tax rate increase by 0.3%, while Americans earning $30,000–$75,000 will see their average tax rate increase by 0.1%, and Americans earning more than $75,000 per year will see tax increases than range from 0.2%–0.6%.

The average increase across all income brackets in 2023 would be 0.3%, the analysis found."

Republicans say Biden spending bill raises taxes on average Americans — and offer evidence to prove it | Blaze Media

President Joe Biden campaigned on a promise that he would not raise taxes on Americans who earn less than $400,000 per year."Let me be very clear: If you make under $400,000 you won’t pay a penny more in taxes under my administration," Biden vowed in October 2020.But that is exactly what the...

www.theblaze.com

Y'all are a bunch of lyin' fuckers....

 

[MagicMike]

"The nonpartisan organization (JCT) found that Americans in nearly every tax bracket will pay more taxes if the Inflation Reduction Act becomes law.

In 2023, for example, Americans who earn less than $10,000 will see their average tax rate increase by 0.3%, while Americans earning $30,000–$75,000 will see their average tax rate increase by 0.1%, and Americans earning more than $75,000 per year will see tax increases than range from 0.2%–0.6%.

The average increase across all income brackets in 2023 would be 0.3%, the analysis found."

Republicans say Biden spending bill raises taxes on average Americans — and offer evidence to prove it | Blaze Media

President Joe Biden campaigned on a promise that he would not raise taxes on Americans who earn less than $400,000 per year."Let me be very clear: If you make under $400,000 you won’t pay a penny more in taxes under my administration," Biden vowed in October 2020.But that is exactly what the...

www.theblaze.com

Y'all are a bunch of lyin' fuckers....

"The nonpartisan organization (JCT) found that Americans in nearly every tax bracket will pay more taxes if the Inflation Reduction Act becomes law.

In 2023, for example, Americans who earn less than $10,000 will see their average tax rate increase by 0.3%, while Americans earning $30,000–$75,000 will see their average tax rate increase by 0.1%, and Americans earning more than $75,000 per year will see tax increases than range from 0.2%–0.6%.

The average increase across all income brackets in 2023 would be 0.3%, the analysis found."

Republicans say Biden spending bill raises taxes on average Americans — and offer evidence to prove it | Blaze Media

President Joe Biden campaigned on a promise that he would not raise taxes on Americans who earn less than $400,000 per year."Let me be very clear: If you make under $400,000 you won’t pay a penny more in taxes under my administration," Biden vowed in October 2020.But that is exactly what the...

www.theblaze.com

Y'all are a bunch of lyin' fuckers....

What we really need to be cracking down on is corporate welfare and tax loopholes/shelters for the wealthy.

How Corporate Welfare Hurts You

When corporations get special handouts from the government, we have to pay more in taxes to make up for these hidden tax breaks, subsidies, and loopholes.

prospect.org

 

[j-mac]

What we really need to be cracking down on is corporate welfare and tax loopholes/shelters for the wealthy.

How Corporate Welfare Hurts You

When corporations get special handouts from the government, we have to pay more in taxes to make up for these hidden tax breaks, subsidies, and loopholes.

prospect.org

Great, and once you run them off, then what?

 

[MagicMike]

Great, and once you run them off, then what?

Who said anything about running them off?
Isn't it funny how when it comes to America's poor and disadvantaged we typically blame the victims?
As in "Work HARDER you bums!"
But when it comes to corporate welfare we make the biggest (actual) welfare queens in America, those individuals who can afford to cheat the system out of billions in revenue, out to be "victims" who are being picked on.
Just by expecting them to contribute their fair share.

 

[j-mac]

Who said anything about running them off?
Isn't it funny how when it comes to America's poor and disadvantaged we typically blame the victims?
As in "Work HARDER you bums!"
But when it comes to corporate welfare we make the biggest (actual) welfare queens in America, those individuals who can afford to cheat the system out of billions in revenue, out to be "victims" who are being picked on.
Just by expecting them to contribute their fair share.

Will High Taxes Force the Rich to Leave America? - The American Conservative

The wealthy are moving money to tax havens outside U.S. borders.

www.theamericanconservative.com

 

[Lesh]

No, the Senate is split 50/50 full stop. Half the country elected the GOP to represent them. We get Dems want to ignore half the people in this country, we oppose that. You Dems would be having a conniption fit if things were reversed and you know it.

Actually not. The number of people represented by the 50 GOP Senators is well below half the population

 

[Lesh]

"The nonpartisan organization (JCT) found that Americans in nearly every tax bracket will pay more taxes if the Inflation Reduction Act becomes law.

In 2023, for example, Americans who earn less than $10,000 will see their average tax rate increase by 0.3%, while Americans earning $30,000–$75,000 will see their average tax rate increase by 0.1%, and Americans earning more than $75,000 per year will see tax increases than range from 0.2%–0.6%.

The average increase across all income brackets in 2023 would be 0.3%, the analysis found."

Republicans say Biden spending bill raises taxes on average Americans — and offer evidence to prove it | Blaze Media

President Joe Biden campaigned on a promise that he would not raise taxes on Americans who earn less than $400,000 per year."Let me be very clear: If you make under $400,000 you won’t pay a penny more in taxes under my administration," Biden vowed in October 2020.But that is exactly what the...

www.theblaze.com

Y'all are a bunch of lyin' fuckers....

Post a link to the JCT actually saying that as opposed to “the Blaze” saying they did

 

[Moonglow]

There was a recession he inherited, bounced back, and then another small one right after that, but his policies created the boomhttps://www.nytimes.com/1990/01/17/opinion/the-reagan-boom-greatest-ever.html



When did our greatest economic expansion occur?
We just had it. And it is still expanding, setting new records with each passing month.
We don't know whether historians will call it the Great Expansion of the 1980's or Reagan's Great Expansion, but we do know from official economic statistics that the seven year period from 1982 to 1989 was the greatest, consistent burst of economic activity ever seen in the U.S. In fact, it was the greatest economic expansion the world has ever seen - in any country, at any time.
The two key measures that mark a depression or expansion are jobs and production. Let's look at the records that were set. Creation of jobs. From November 1982, when President Ronald Reagan's new economic program was beginning to take effect, to November 1989, 18.7 million new jobs were created. It was a world record: Never before had so many jobs been created during a comparable time period. The new jobs covered the entire spectrum of work, and more than half of them paid more than $20,000 a year. As total employment grew to 119.5 million, the rate of unemployment fell to slightly over 5 percent, the lowest level in 15 years. Creation of wealth.
The amount of wealth produced during this seven year period was stupendous - some $30 trillion worth of goods and services. Again, it was a world record. Never before had so much wealth been produced during a comparable period. According to a recent study, net asset values - including stocks, bonds and real estate - went up by more than $5 trillion between 1982 and 1989, an increase of roughly 50 percent.

Clinton was able to right the ship, that is what made him a great politican....once the dems raised taxes, and slowed the economy, they lost bigly in Congress, and Clinton got, largely on board. Admitting they raised taxes to high.

The U.S. is officially in its longest expansion, breaking the record of 120 months of economic growth from March 1991 to March 2001, according to the National Bureau of Economic Research. Starting in June of 2009, this record-setting run saw GDP growing cumulatively by 25%, far slower than previous expansions.Jul 2, 2019

This is now the longest U.S. economic expansion in history​

 

[j-mac]

Post a link to the JCT actually saying that as opposed to “the Blaze” saying they did

https://www.finance.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/jct_distributional_effects_inflation_reduction_act.pdf

When you question something based solely on who is reporting it without looking it up yourself, you just look dumb....BTW, this will be the last time I do YOUR homework.

 

[Lesh]

https://www.finance.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/jct_distributional_effects_inflation_reduction_act.pdf

When you question something based solely on who is reporting it without looking it up yourself, you just look dumb....BTW, this will be the last time I do YOUR homework.

Did you look at that?

A tenth of a percent increase over what they were paying?

Think anyone would actually even notice that?

My Federal tax bill was about $10K, That's a whopping ten dollar increase...for the YEAR

 

[BluesLegend]

Actually not. The number of people represented by the 50 GOP Senators is well below half the population

^^^ flunked social studies.

 

[Lesh]

^^^ flunked social studies.

only 43% of the population lives in the 50 states represented by GOP Senators