Should Trump go to jail for mishandling classified information?

[ABikerSailor]

The national archives work for POTUS. Not the other way around, dufus. The FBI is untrustworthy as I already outlined.

Actually, they don't work for POTUS, they work for the people of the US.

 

[scruffy]

You’re reacting to online trolls not real life. Some are taking it to extremes in real life. We saw that on Jan 6 at the capital and during the race riots the previous summer. Those extremists have always existed and will always exist. We need saner minds setting better examples as leaders. Not feeding into the same tactics. That’s truly the danger of Trump. He riles up the lunatics

Seems to me Biden's the one riling up the lunatics

 

[meaner gene]

Prove it then. It seems no one has any proof of Trump 'mishandling' and, even if the did, ...

You know that's the typical Trump walk. First he didn't do it
Then if he did it, it wasn't a crime.
And if it was a crime it wasn't a serious one.
And even if it's serious, the previous president did the same thing.

 

[Stann]

Actually, they don't work for POTUS, they work for the people of the US.

The US attorney general swears an oath to the Constitution not the president.

 

[meaner gene]

Yes false raid. They already had a search warrant and Trump let them go through those documents in June. There was no need for an ARMED raid. This is banana republic crap. Do you get any real news?

Actually the spokesman for the FBI said that Trumps lawyers refused to let them go through the boxes. So instead the FBI insisted they put another lock on the storage room.

Wanna try answering WITHOUT LYING?

 

[Stann]

Seems to me Biden's the one riling up the lunatics

You're right about that. His statement against the extremists in this country brought them out of the walls they don't know how to act they can't believe someone actually spoke the truth for a change

 

[meaner gene]

Yes false raid. They already had a search warrant and Trump let them go through those documents in June. There was no need for an ARMED raid. This is banana republic crap. Do you get any real news?

Trump Lawyers Stopped FBI Agents Checking Storage Room Boxes—Filing

The DoJ says Trump's counsel also misled federal investigators by claiming all classified documents kept at Mar-a-Lago were handed over in June.

www.newsweek.com

Trump Lawyers Stopped FBI Agents Checking Storage Room Boxes—Filing

Donald Trump's lawyers had "explicitly prohibited" the FBI from looking inside a storage room at the former president's Mar-a-Lago resort when agents were attempting to retrieve classified documents in June.

During that search, the former president's counsel "explicitly prohibited government personnel from opening or looking inside any of the boxes that remained in the storage room, giving no opportunity for the government to confirm that no documents with classification markings remained," prosecutors said.

 

[eddiew37]

What is the jail time typically given for empty folders?

Put the POS up against a wall and off the traitor

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Ok.
Let's also be sensible about our assumptions.
Is it sensible to even assume, with the DOJ trying to track down sensitive documents that it already KNOWS are missing, that Trump stole a bunch of empty folders that just coincidentally have the very classification markings as the missing documents, but the empty folders never contained those now missing documents?

Think about it.

Why would he keep the folders?

 

[Markle]

What bout Trumps lie that he won the 2020 election.
People have DIED, because of that lie.

Where?

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Put the POS up against a wall and off the traitor

Good ******* call. If that’s the standard we should have a lot of people on that wall. I’m thinking…

Hillary
Strocke
Page
Joe
Hunter
Joes brother, whatever his name is
Pelosi
Schiff

That’s just a start. Bring a lot of ammo.

 

[Stann]

Why would he keep the folders?

It sounds like you're both saying the same thing.

 

[Coyote]

You accused me of wanting to use violence. I accused you of caring about power.

You have a problem if you can't see the difference. But then. Didn't we know this?

You accused me of only caring about power. Drop the double standard.

 

[Coyote]

For you, after the Steele Dossier, Russian Collusion, and the Impeachable phone call..you bet

You really completely miss it.

No wonder they call it a cult.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Trump says he should……

Donald Trump has repeatedly called for lengthy jail sentences for those who he claimed mishandled classified information

Former President Donald Trump has repeatedly called for the lengthy jailing of opponents of his who he claimed mishandled classified materials.

www.cnn.com

In my administration, I'm going to enforce all laws concerning the protection of classified information. No one will be above the law."

"One of the first things we must do is to enforce all classification rules and to enforce all laws relating to the handling of classified information," he said in September 2016.
Speaking in July of that year, Trump said Clinton's mishandling "disqualifies" her from public service.

"Any government employee who engaged in this kind of behavior would be barred from handling classified information," Trump said. "Again, that alone disqualifies her

"She didn't know any better" was the defense made up for Clinton. Precedence established.

 

[SeaMajor7]

The cognitive dissonance from the left, and lack of self-awareness is off the charts!
Biden's Reichstag-like speech was a DISGRACE from within Independence Hall.
You subverted zombies should be ashamed!

 

[Coyote]

Is is a vague threat to tell someone if they punch another person in the stomach over and over, eventually that person might punch back?

Better put

If one spouse abuses the other for years and years and years, the abusee might want to leave?

Those aren't threats, dear. They're common sense.

First mistake. You aren’t a victim. You’ve just been brainwashed into thinking you are after losing a free and fair election. You hold most of the political power in state houses, passed draconian laws against free speech you don’t like, against transgenders, a tiny minority you want to persecute, you are banning books left and right, even in public libraries, passing laws threatening teacher’s livelihoods for discussing racial issues, you’ve taken away rights, you hold amajority in the courts and half the senate and YOU ARE STILL WHINING ABOUT BEING VICTIMS? What is “enough“ for you lot?

I have had to listen to you lot call us sore losers, sour grapes, America haters, tree huggers, perverts, pedos, baby killers, unpatriotic, commies, Marxists, Nazis, vermin, libtards, Demoncrats, groomers, chucks, snowflakes, etc.

And thank for admitting you are indeed making threats.

 

[Coyote]

Where?

Your meme has nothing to do with the election.

 

[BackAgain]

For all you idiots who think you know about security material.........

Yes, the SITTING president (meaning the one currently elected to hold the office) has the authority to declassify anything they see fit, and they can do it whenever they want to, on any subject they want to.

HOWEVER..................................

Once the president says that something is declassified, there is a procedure to let everyone else who has access to, or has a copy of that material that it is declassified. No, the president doesn't hold the only copies of classified material crossing their desk, it is held at other places as well. There has to be a record made of the material that is being declassified, as in what it was exactly, when it was declassified (day and date at a minimum, sometimes it includes the time), and the reason that it was declassified. That record is then made into a memo or message (or both) and is sent to all the agencies/military commands where the information is also at so that they know it has been declassified. Simply saying that something is declassified doesn't cut it, as there MUST be a record stating that the status of the material has changed.

And no, a president doesn't hold a security clearance for life. When someone who has had a security clearance leaves the job that they held the clearance for, they are given an NDA stating that they will not talk about anything they saw or heard about that was classified, for a specific amount of time (usually 10 years, that's what it is in the military), and if they do disclose said material, it will open them up to legal punishments. If a former president is needed to be brought in on a subject that they have knowledge of from their term, the current president will "read them in", meaning they are given a temporary security clearance for that time and that material only.

As a matter of fact, NOBODY has a "lifetime security clearance", as even if a person is serving in a job requiring one, they have to recertify their clearance. For the military, that happens every 5 years.

So no................Trump simply saying he declassified it is a non starter without a record reflecting that actions were taken to declassify the material, along with the date it was taken, and the reason it was done. If there isn't a record of it, Trump didn't declassify anything, he's just blowing smoke to the masses hoping to keep himself out of trouble.

Yeah yeah. After he declassified a document there are indeed other procedure. And they either took place or they didn’t. They apparently did not. And?

That doesn’t change the fact of the declassification.

 

[BackAgain]

Talking like Trump now huh?

"No one believes"

"Everone says"

"Everyone knows"

And so on.

Actually MOST people "believe" the FBI.
You are lying.
Just like Trump.