Should Trump go to jail for mishandling classified information?

[Leo123]

Is that how you deal with Trump telling thousands of lies. Retorting, but.. but .. but your guy told a couple of lies too.

Lame.

No it's LAME to say Trump told 'thousands of lies' when you can't point to one that so negatively affected America as Biden's lies. Case in point, Biden's believing in 'climate change' and that fossil fuels are bad and we must stop producing those fuels. Another lie, MAGA people are some kind of existential threat to 'Democracy.' Two lies in one, MAGA is Make America Great Again not tear American down and we live in a representative REPUBLIC not a pure Democracy. How can you be so frigging stupid? Oh yeah, you're an alt-leftie with TDS and you're a Bidenista.

 

[ABikerSailor]

For all you idiots who think you know about security material.........

Yes, the SITTING president (meaning the one currently elected to hold the office) has the authority to declassify anything they see fit, and they can do it whenever they want to, on any subject they want to.

HOWEVER..................................

Once the president says that something is declassified, there is a procedure to let everyone else who has access to, or has a copy of that material that it is declassified. No, the president doesn't hold the only copies of classified material crossing their desk, it is held at other places as well. There has to be a record made of the material that is being declassified, as in what it was exactly, when it was declassified (day and date at a minimum, sometimes it includes the time), and the reason that it was declassified. That record is then made into a memo or message (or both) and is sent to all the agencies/military commands where the information is also at so that they know it has been declassified. Simply saying that something is declassified doesn't cut it, as there MUST be a record stating that the status of the material has changed.

And no, a president doesn't hold a security clearance for life. When someone who has had a security clearance leaves the job that they held the clearance for, they are given an NDA stating that they will not talk about anything they saw or heard about that was classified, for a specific amount of time (usually 10 years, that's what it is in the military), and if they do disclose said material, it will open them up to legal punishments. If a former president is needed to be brought in on a subject that they have knowledge of from their term, the current president will "read them in", meaning they are given a temporary security clearance for that time and that material only.

As a matter of fact, NOBODY has a "lifetime security clearance", as even if a person is serving in a job requiring one, they have to recertify their clearance. For the military, that happens every 5 years.

So no................Trump simply saying he declassified it is a non starter without a record reflecting that actions were taken to declassify the material, along with the date it was taken, and the reason it was done. If there isn't a record of it, Trump didn't declassify anything, he's just blowing smoke to the masses hoping to keep himself out of trouble.

 

[meaner gene]

No it's LAME to say Trump told 'thousands of lies' when you can't point to one that so negatively affected America as Biden's lies.

What bout Trumps lie that he won the 2020 election.
People have DIED, because of that lie.

 

[meaner gene]

No it's LAME to say Trump told 'thousands of lies' when you can't point to one that so negatively affected America as Biden's lies.

What bout Trumps lie that he won the 2020 election.
That resulted in literally thousands of death threats.

 

[MagicMike]

What is the jail time typically given for empty folders?

I guess it depends upon who he has shared the missing contents of those folders with.
For instance, are the missing documents in Moscow now?
Who knows.

 

[meaner gene]

No it's LAME to say Trump told 'thousands of lies' when you can't point to one that so negatively affected America as Biden's lies.

What bout Trumps lie that he won the 2020 election.
That resulted in hundreds of people facing prison sentences.
Dozens of people already sentenced to prison terms of up to 5 years.

 

[Leo123]

What bout Trumps lie that he won the 2020 election.
That resulted in literally thousands of death threats.

Like I said, you don't WANT to see the fraud that took place. What death threats? Who got killed because Trump said the election was fraudlent? Hey, did you MISS the death threats against conservatives and justices Thomas and Kavanaugh? Did you miss Schumer threatening SCOTUS justices?

 

[Leo123]

What bout Trumps lie that he won the 2020 election.
That resulted in hundreds of people facing prison sentences.
Dozens of people already sentenced to prison terms of up to 5 years.

Falsely sentenced to draconian sentences for trespassing.

 

[Leo123]

I guess it depends upon who he has shared the missing contents of those folders with.
For instance, are the missing documents in Moscow now?
Who knows.

Why do you think Trump stole those documents? Where is your proof? Oh yeah, you believe the DOJ who has been caught red-handed falsifying verification of the dossier. OR did CNN not report that?

 

[Indeependent]

Trump says he should……

Donald Trump has repeatedly called for lengthy jail sentences for those who he claimed mishandled classified information

Former President Donald Trump has repeatedly called for the lengthy jailing of opponents of his who he claimed mishandled classified materials.

www.cnn.com

In my administration, I'm going to enforce all laws concerning the protection of classified information. No one will be above the law."

"One of the first things we must do is to enforce all classification rules and to enforce all laws relating to the handling of classified information," he said in September 2016.
Speaking in July of that year, Trump said Clinton's mishandling "disqualifies" her from public service.

"Any government employee who engaged in this kind of behavior would be barred from handling classified information," Trump said. "Again, that alone disqualifies her

How freaking sad for you that AP News has nothing to report.

 

[BackAgain]

Okay right there
Biden's actions and words indicate he is not a racist.

Nonsense. You evidently don’t grasp his history.

If you look at Trump's history, he is definitely a racist.

Again. It’s not definite. It’s not even remotely true. Trump had a history of being given awards by black organizations for his efforts on behalf of minorities. Why do you blurt whatever crap pops into your mind without having any clue about it?

And I prefer someone who is sane with a few minor memory problems

Then you’re backing the wrong horse.

( Everyone gets them with age, Biden and trump are no exclusions to the rule. )

Your constant need to provide feeble and false excuses for Brandon is concerning.

Rather than someone who is psychotic, throws tantrums, is unwilling to compromise and believe he is better than everyone else and above the law.

Oh. You are admitting some of Brandon’s faults?

All of that fits trump to a tee.

No. Alas. You’re just projecting. Oh well.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Perhaps you didn't get the memo, trump hasn't been present for a long time.

Perhaps you missed the memo. Clinton never ******* was.

 

[meaner gene]

Like I said, you don't WANT to see the fraud that took place. What death threats? Who got killed because Trump said the election was fraudlent?

Ashli Babbit.

 

[Leo123]

Ashli Babbit.

Ashli was killed by a Biden cop who was previously cited for mishandling his weapon. He should be in jail. There was no need to kill an unarmed woman and Trump had nothing to do with it except in your TDS fevered brain.

 

[meaner gene]

Why do you think Trump stole those documents? Where is your proof?

By the fact that Trump hasa been given three opportunities to return the documents he stole, and he still hasn't returned all of them.

Anybody who takes something by accident, returns everything , and doesn't "negotiate" about keeping any of it.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

I guess it depends upon who he has shared the missing contents of those folders with.
For instance, are the missing documents in Moscow now?
Who knows.

Maybe we should first determine if they ever had anything in them. Let’s work on that before we go off on another stupid ******* Russia tangent.

 

[meaner gene]

Perhaps you missed the memo. Clinton never ******* was.

You may want to put an "H" in front of that.

 

[Leo123]

By the fact that Trump hasa been given three opportunities to return the documents he stole, and he still hasn't returned all of them.

Anybody who takes something by accident, returns everything , and doesn't "negotiate" about keeping any of it.

How is that proof? All it is as an assumption that he stole documents. What happened to innocent unless proven guilty? Why do you suspend your thinking like that? Oh yeah, TDS.

 

[Leo123]

You may want to put an "H" in front of that.

Why?

 

[meaner gene]

... and Trump had nothing to do with it except in your TDS fevered brain.

Trump invited her.