Should the USA have teamed with the Germans

[Quasar44]

To destroy and obliterate Stalin and communism ??
Did we attack the wrong the nation.
We could have dealt with Germany after ??

 

[Quasar44]

With German army and American AirPower we would have overcome the Russians within 2 years

 

[Mortimer]

For me personally no because then the Germans would have won and I or my family wouldnt exist.

 

[Oddball]

yes

Hitler and National Socialism were dead.

The battle weary troops could have been rotated out, the factories producing the arms could have been relatively quickly brought back on line, the allies had air supremacy over the entirety of Europe and would have had no challenge laying the Soviet Air Force to waste.

Patton was right.

 

[Oddball]

With German army and American AirPower we would have overcome the Russians within 2 years

Wouldn't have taken that long.

Stalin was near broke and the Soviet arms tech was still easily a decade behind the Germans.

They only were able to overrun Poland and Germany because of pressure from the west.

 

[Hossfly]

To destroy and obliterate Stalin and communism ??
Did we attack the wrong the nation.
We could have dealt with Germany after ??

No way in hell. We should have invaded Germany just like they invaded Poland and France. The German army was scattered all over and we could have driven right into Berlin and grabbed Hitler. Russia has never been our friend.

 

[Quasar44]

Then after Stalin and Russia is rumble ..we could deal with the SS

 

[Oddball]

No way in hell. We should have invaded Germany just like they invaded Poland and France. The German army was scattered all over and we could have driven right into Berlin and grabbed Hitler. Russia has never been our friend.

I don't understand why Ike let the Soviets rape Berlin.

The regular Wehrmacht would have surrendered in droves to the approaching allies from the west.

 

[White 6]

To destroy and obliterate Stalin and communism ??
Did we attack the wrong the nation.
We could have dealt with Germany after ??

Nope, but we should have let Patton have his way after Germany fell.

 

[Oddball]

To destroy and obliterate Stalin and communism ??
Did we attack the wrong the nation.
We could have dealt with Germany after ??

Nope, but we should have let Patton have his way after Germany fell.

Patton having his way would have meant ramping German war industry back up, and confabbing with German generals on tactics.

Between having The Bomb in the east and the overwhelming technological and industrial advantage in the west, Stalin could have been vanquished in a few months.

 

[Muhammed]

To destroy and obliterate Stalin and communism ??
Did we attack the wrong the nation.
We could have dealt with Germany after ??

We certainly shouldn't have armed the UK after they declared war against Germany. Instead of arming the UK we should have annexed Canada.

While the UK was busy defending themselves due to the aggressive war they started against Germany, they would not have had the resources to fight the USA at the same time.

And many Canadians, especially in Quebec, weren't too happy about their children being enslaved by King George to be used as royal cannon fodder again.

We could have easily taken Canada from the UK, probably without firing a shot.

Instead, FDR decided to enslave millions of Americans in violation of the 13th amendment and get hundreds of thousands of Americans killed fighting for the Soviet commies and the monarchy that sacked, looted and burned Washington D.C.

FDR was an evil traitor.

 

[White 6]

To destroy and obliterate Stalin and communism ??
Did we attack the wrong the nation.
We could have dealt with Germany after ??

Nope, but we should have let Patton have his way after Germany fell.

Patton having his way would have meant ramping German war industry back up, and confabbing with German generals on tactics.

Between having The Bomb in the east and the overwhelming technological and industrial advantage in the west, Stalin could have been vanquished in a few months.

No. He would not have confabbed with the defeated Nazi Generals, (as they had nothing to teach him of how to win in combat, though may have repurposed existing industry in Germany to serve allied needs against Russians. If he had pulled it off, and he was just the Combat leader to do it, if one ever lived, we would not have had the Cold War, and it's arms race, and the Cuban Missile Crises or probably Castro either. We would not have had to keep troops defending against Soviet Communist aggression in Europe and around the world to the supposed end of the Cold War (which never really ended) and with the Russians to this very day. Not possible to intelligently re-fight a war that was never fought, but the iron curtain countries, Europe and the world might be better off.

 

[Markle]

To destroy and obliterate Stalin and communism ??
Did we attack the wrong the nation.
We could have dealt with Germany after ??

 

[Markle]

I don't understand why Ike let the Soviets rape Berlin.

The regular Wehrmacht would have surrendered in droves to the approaching allies from the west.

Perhaps you need to brush up on World War-II history. Of course, you are quite young.

 

[Mortimer]

Did you watched Codename U.N.C.L.E? I watched it yesterday, really good movie. A international organisation of nazi criminals wants to create a nuclear bomb. The americans and russians team up. It is 2015 seems like less anti-russian then usual.

There is a german torture "artist" quiete the freak, quiete the dr.mengele type and like a horror show freak. He tortures the american guy.

 

[Quasar44]

To destroy and obliterate Stalin and communism ??
Did we attack the wrong the nation.
We could have dealt with Germany after ??

We certainly shouldn't have armed the UK after they declared war against Germany. Instead of arming the UK we should have annexed Canada.

While the UK was busy defending themselves due to the aggressive war they started against Germany, they would not have had the resources to fight the USA at the same time.

And many Canadians, especially in Quebec, weren't too happy about their children being enslaved by King George to be used as royal cannon fodder again.

We could have easily taken Canada from the UK, probably without firing a shot.

Instead, FDR decided to enslave millions of Americans in violation of the 13th amendment and get hundreds of thousands of Americans killed fighting for the Soviet commies and the monarchy that sacked, looted and burned Washington D.C.

FDR was an evil traitor.

FDR did zero to take in any Jews!!
He let them all die
I guess I could easily live without the scum bags of Hollywood and the fake media

 

[Markle]

To destroy and obliterate Stalin and communism ??
Did we attack the wrong the nation.
We could have dealt with Germany after ??

We certainly shouldn't have armed the UK after they declared war against Germany. Instead of arming the UK we should have annexed Canada.

While the UK was busy defending themselves due to the aggressive war they started against Germany, they would not have had the resources to fight the USA at the same time.

And many Canadians, especially in Quebec, weren't too happy about their children being enslaved by King George to be used as royal cannon fodder again.

We could have easily taken Canada from the UK, probably without firing a shot.

Instead, FDR decided to enslave millions of Americans in violation of the 13th amendment and get hundreds of thousands of Americans killed fighting for the Soviet commies and the monarchy that sacked, looted and burned Washington D.C.

FDR was an evil traitor.

 

[Quasar44]

I am not defending Hitler for gods sakes ‘!!

What is most ironic about WW2 is that we won but the real enemies were never overseas - they were in the USA
And now the Marxist fascist are months away from seizing all power

 

[Quasar44]

“The enemy from within “ was plotting and planning for decades and now they’re ready to take over

 

[candycorn]

To destroy and obliterate Stalin and communism ??
Did we attack the wrong the nation.
We could have dealt with Germany after ??

Nope, but we should have let Patton have his way after Germany fell.

There is a school of thought, as I recall from my college days, that Patton and many others who were more...lets say...career minded (that can be taken two ways) knew that there would likely never be this critical mass of industrial capacity, political will, zero opposition of scale, and in all modesty and candor--tactical brilliance ever assembled again. And that if we didn't pull opposition out by the root at that moment in history, we would never be able to do it again. Not because of capability limits but because of political will to rally the homeland to the cause. I can't say that he was wrong in that argument.

I would say though that the Russian frontier is unlike any other in the world in terms of length and conditions. Those supply lines would be stretched pretty thin and winters over there aren't too comfortable. It may have been a case of biting off more than we could chew.

What isn't in doubt in my mind is that if we were ever going to "be able to chew it" it would have been the summer of 1945.