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especially in elite universities, and other school that practise AA, blacks are admitted with markedly lower qualifications, receive lower grades and pass independent qualification exams at a lower rate than other groups. is it reasonable to give them the same credit for a diploma when the chances are that they will underperform? would you chose a black doctor or lawyer knowing that they were close to the bottom of their class?
This is crap. I'm currently finishing my BA now and you are telling me that blacks under perform. I'm working my butt off. And I didn't get into college with lower qualification or grades than whites.
Where are you getting this crap from?
sorry that I didn't get back to you on that earlier post. there was a lot of interesting info about admissions qualifications and performance rates for undergrads at U of Michigan because of the court case a few years ago. I haven't been able to track down the actual graphs because the links were lost when the MSN message board closed down. but I will keep looking when I have time.
to show that I am not just talking out of my butt, here is a link to an article in the Wall Street Journal by Gail Herriot, of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110010522
Mr. Sander's original article noted that when elite law schools lower their academic standards in order to admit a more racially diverse class, schools one or two tiers down feel they must do the same. As a result, there is now a serious gap in academic credentials between minority and non-minority law students across the pecking order, with the average black student's academic index more than two standard deviations below that of his average white classmate.
Not surprisingly, such a gap leads to problems. Students who attend schools where their academic credentials are substantially below those of their fellow students tend to perform poorly.
The reason is simple: While some students will outperform their entering academic credentials, just as some students will underperform theirs, most students will perform in the range that their academic credentials predict. As a result, in elite law schools, 51.6% of black students had first-year grade point averages in the bottom 10% of their class as opposed to only 5.6% of white students. Nearly identical performance gaps existed at law schools at all levels. This much is uncontroversial.
while you may be going to a University that does not (officially) give preferences, many do. and those that do give preferences, give large ones, at least in all the reports that I have seen. and the graduation rates show the difference.
the crazy thing is that no one hears about this. Bok's 'The Shape of the River' gets publicized and quoted in the press but the scholarly rebuttals of the methods and conclusions of that book are ignored.
I think most people want AA to continue in some form, I know I do. but the defacto quotas that are in effect now are not really working, so even no preferences at all might be a better choice.
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