Senate Republicans Be Responsible Don't Use The Filibuster On Debt Ceiling Vote!

[BluesLegend]

That's an argument you have BEFORE you sign the contract.

NOT when the bill comes due.

Blocking the raising of the debt ceiling is the exact OPPOSITE of responsible.

It will lead to default and Recession.

We've had ENOUGH Republican Recessions. The last one was a fucking DOOZY (2008)

Cut spending now, problem solved.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Are you capable of providing any substance to your claims or do you just feel entitled at such a level to not be accountable or challenged? Your lack of substance and refusal to provide basis only serve to expose yourself further.

Accountable? To who? You?
You should defend your claims rather than chase me around biting at my ankles. Show me I’m wrong. Make me look stupid by using your points. Look it up and post up support for your assertions. You can’t though because I already know you’re simply wrong. I suspect you might know that as well. Hence the ankle biting.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Meh, stop borrowing money then the debt ceiling doesn't need to be raised. That's why we have a debt ceiling. See how easy that was.

This spending was from the previous administration. It’s already spent.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Democrats only have themselves to blame.

How so?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Cut spending now, problem solved.

That is not correct in any way.

 

[BluesLegend]

This spending was from the previous administration. It’s already spent.

Cut the spending. Hell cut spending more, balance the budget then cut taxes. Happy to solve this debt ceiling problem for you Dems.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Accountable? To who? You?
You should defend your claims rather than chase me around biting at my ankles. Show me I’m wrong. Make me look stupid by using your points. Look it up and post up support for your assertions. You can’t though because I already know you’re simply wrong. I suspect you might know that as well. Hence the ankle biting.

Accountable to yourself and showing substance vs. baseless claims.

 

[BluesLegend]

That is not correct in any way.

LMAO yeah cutting spending is like acid rain to Dems.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Cut the spending. Hell cut spending more, balance the budget then cut taxes. Happy to solve this debt ceiling problem for you Dems.

You’re still making no sense. The current debt ceiling issue is over the spending of the prior admin and the Rs.

 

[struth]

Senate Republicans are being malicious, petty and irresponsible about not sending the sovereign debt investment community the unequivocal message that the United States will never default on its Treasury bonds and Treasury notes debt! I am totally on board with the Senate Republicans "not actually" voting to raise the national debt limit until December 2022 because such raising will facilitate the Democrats passing their Build Back Better Act Reconciliation bill which will saddle America with an abundance of overly expansive social programs that will ultimately end up raising taxes across the board and increase the trajectory growth of the national debt bringing forth significantly earlier than otherwise a Great Recession caused by a national debt crisis! But this is not at issue today the Senate Democrats alone are willing to raise the national debt ceiling, the Republicans will be able to keep clean hands over the matter they will be able to claim they did not support nor vote to raise the debt limit, the issue today is whether or not it is okay for Senate Republicans to use a procedural mechanism, the filibuster, to block the Democrats from having an up or down vote on raising it; and the answer is "absolutely not" America is now getting into territory where arguably if this vote fails America's legislative mechanisms will not allow time for the Democrat majority in the House and Senate to raise the debt limit in time so America can borrow money to pay its principle and interest obligations on outstanding Treasury securities coming due!

Senate Republicans should keep in mind that America is now at the stage where it is sending a message to the world wide Treasury bond investment community that it is willing to toy with defaulting on its debt, it is willing to maneuver America's legislative mechanisms so that the raising the debt process slows to the point where there could be an actual debt default and that is bad because it deters potential buyers and holders of America's Treasury debt. To moderate Republicans your joining in on this obstructing of a vote on voting to raise the debt limit when America has hit the previous debt ceiling gives fertile ground to the far right faction of your Party like Ted Cruz and Mark Levin devotees that believe America doesn't have to raise its debt ceiling the monthly interest on the debt is approximately $44 billion/month and America's tax revenue income is approximately $320 billion/month so America only needs to manage the paying of its bills and prioritize paying Treasury debt at the top of the list which you moderates know is "totally and completely insane" because one cannot indefinitely juggle such inflows and outflows of money and not have a disruption; one cannot count on disruptions of individuals and businesses paying their taxes and paying on America's sovereign debt obligations which requires rolling over the principle on America's debt and sometimes buyers on America's Treasuries lessen in number as other fixed income securities offer better interest rates than U.S. treasuries and/or equity markets offer a clearly better return than bonds. You moderate Republicans know that once America actually defaults on paying its Treasury debt that has come due America will lose its triple AAA credit rating and it will force a lot of holders of U.S. Treasury bonds to have to sell those securities, it will cause a run on Treasury bonds thereby dramatically hurting the financial condition of almost countless institutions that hold treasuries and could cause financial earthquakes throughout the world that could cause a severe world-wide recession! Senate Republican don't gamble with America's future like this allow an up or down vote on raising the nation's debt ceiling!

The GOP is using it to get what they want as well. Will the dems do what our founders intended, and what the GOP has done when they had the majority and compromise or will they take us over the edge? balls in chucky, nancy, aoc, sanders and the xiden cults court

 

[BluesLegend]

You’re still making no sense. The current debt ceiling issue is over the spending of the prior admin and the Rs.

So cut current spending, and the prior spending. Because we spent $1 last year doesn't mean we have to spend that $1 this year. Wait, do you know what a spending cut is?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Accountable to yourself and showing substance vs. baseless claims.

The he baseless claims were yours, dope.
The Dems aren’t raising the debt ceiling so they can spend more.
You could easily prove me wrong by linking it but you know you can’t so you keep biting at my ankles.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

So cut current spending, and the prior spending. Because we spent $1 last year doesn't mean we have to spend that $1 this year. Wait, do you know what a spending cut is?

One has nothing to do with the other.

 

[BluesLegend]

One has nothing to do with the other.

I proved we could cut spending, balance the budget, we wouldn't need to raise the debt ceiling and could cut taxes. Math is not on your side of this discussion.

 

[LeftofLeft]

The he baseless claims were yours, dope.
The Dems aren’t raising the debt ceiling so they can spend more.
You could easily prove me wrong by linking it but you know you can’t so you keep biting at my ankles.

Another baseless claim that Democrats aren’t raising the debt limit to spend more. Prove yourself correct with some third party validation. Spin away.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Yeah that's the hypocrisy. Gop runs up debt with two tax cuts followed by expanded social programs and defense funding, coupled with 8 T in war costs.

There's more in the dems bill for me to be against that to be for, but the gop needs a swift kick in the nads on this one.

It took Trump 4 years to spend 8 trillion, democrats want to spend that in ONE FUCKING BILL!!!

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Another baseless claim that Democrats aren’t raising the debt limit to spend more. Prove yourself correct with some third party validation. Spin away.

That’s not how it works, dope.

 

[LeftofLeft]

That’s not how it works, dope.

You keep saying it’s not how it works yet fail to validate your own knowledge and aptitude as to how it works. You keep defaulting to names and insults yet speaking the speciosity and exposing yourself. You need to validate or quit.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

You keep saying it’s not how it works yet fail to validate your own knowledge and aptitude as to how it works. You keep defaulting to names and insults yet speaking the speciosity and exposing yourself. You need to validate or quit.

It’s your claim, dope. Post up how the debt ceiling works and why you think you make any sense at all.

 

[elektra]

The debt gets paid regardless of, independent of the debt ceiling.

That is an indisputable fact.