Roe v. Wade getting overturned!!

[whutTHEYsay]

You don't want a rational discussion. Y

I certainly do.

Try me. Respond in a rational way


why shouldn’t a woman’s body be considered the same as a man’s body
in an rquak human rights sense!?

 

[daveman]

I certainly do.

Try me. Respond in a rational way


why shouldn’t a woman’s body be considered the same as a man’s body
in an rquak human rights sense!?

Why do the unborn not have any rights? They are genetically-distinct human beings.

Matter of fact, her rights should end at the placenta.

You will shit your pants in incoherent rage at this idea. Makes no difference at all. I'm under no obligation to change my mind to assuage your butthurt.

Why don't you want men and women to be responsible for their actions, and plan accordingly?

 

[whutTHEYsay]

You really thought I'd change my mind by posting what Trump and Mrs. Trump said about abortion, didn't you?

no. Not at all. I do not expect you to change your opinion.. I expect you to defend your opinion with facts and rational thinking.

You have not demonstrated an ability to do that.

All you do is tell me that I am a Democrat and I’m no good and all sorts of conjecture about what I’m thinking, what I want, what I’m doing.

I don’t want to talk about any of that

I bring up Melania Trump because you are claiming that Democrats are the only party that kills unborn babies. That is not true.

So I’m calling you on it.

republicans don’t really stop women from terminating their pregnancies.

And with influential people like millennia Trump actually pointing out the truth that women should have a right to control their own bodies, I don’t care if you change your mind because your mind is going nowhere.

It’s too it’s too steep in untruth. Legal abortion is not a Democrat only thing I just make it harder for lower income poor women to get the care they need. More rich Republican women can go fly a freaking Paris if they can go Wherever they want to get a abortion.




Now it’s up to you to factually prove to me that no Republican would ever have an abortion

I know it’s not true. But you must think it’s true so why don’t you defend it in a normal conversation using facts and reason.

 

[daveman]

no. Not at all. I do not expect you to change your opinion.. I expect you to defend your opinion with facts and rational thinking.

You have not demonstrated an ability to do that.

All you do is tell me that I am a Democrat and I’m no good and all sorts of conjecture about what I’m thinking, what I want, what I’m doing.

I don’t want to talk about any of that

I bring up Melania Trump because you are claiming that Democrats are the only party that kills unborn babies. That is not true.

So I’m calling you on it.

republicans don’t really stop women from terminating their pregnancies.

And with influential people like millennia Trump actually pointing out the truth that women should have a right to control their own bodies, I don’t care if you change your mind because your mind is going nowhere.

It’s too it’s too steep in untruth. Legal abortion is not a Democrat only thing I just make it harder for lower income poor women to get the care they need. More rich Republican women can go fly a freaking Paris if they can go Wherever they want to get a abortion.




Now it’s up to you to factually prove to me that no Republican would ever have an abortion

I know it’s not true. But you must think it’s true so why don’t you defend it in a normal conversation using facts and reason.

I also have no obligation to defend statements I never made.

Run along, boy. You SUCK at this.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Why do the unborn not have any rights

The unborn hat or should have the exact same rights that we born human beings do.

They just do not have the right to override the higher right of a woman who would give them personhood at birth if she chooses to take their risk of giving birth.

You cannot tell a woman to take a risk when you cannot guarantee the outcome.

Who do you think you are?

 

[daveman]

The unborn hat or should have the exact same rights that we born human beings do.

They just do not have the right to override the higher right of a woman who would give them personhood at birth if she chooses to take their risk of giving birth.

You cannot tell a woman to take a risk when you cannot guarantee the outcome.

Who do you think you are?

I'm not the guy saying millions of human beings deserve to die because they're inconvenient.

You want people to be free from the consequences of their actions, and you don't like the idea of people behaving responsibly. That's what your side has preached since the 1960s, and it's cost millions of lives.

Leftists see human beings as little more than animals, unable to control their urges.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Because I value human life.

Leftists -- not so much.

The leftist solution to inconvenient people (and it's a Final one) has always been wholesale murder.

The legacy of the left is the mass grave.

I also have no obligation to defend statements I never made.

Run along, boy. You SUCK at this.

so you really meant to say the legacy in America, regardless of party is a mass grave.


So you really meant to say you value human life, but everybody else in America, not so much.

You truly are a Saint.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

I'm not the guy saying millions of human beings deserve to die because they're inconvenient.

I never said that either so you are a liar.

I do not believe in abortion for convenience. That’s why I got a vasectomy after my second daughter was born. 40 years ago.

I d did that out of respect for my wife who could not take the pill

I think it’s none of my damn business to invade the privacy of every woman in the country because I think I’m of superior morality to them because of my judgment on the matter.

I would be happy as hell if both sides of the issue quit taking each other to court and going for these billion dollars worth of constitutional amendments and political ads and instead set up a program to support any woman who would have her baby if she could afford to support it,

but never never never in 1 million world years of human existence on this planet should the government be in the medical business telling her what she has
to do or can’t do.

And don’t make it a freaking moral issue that she’s gonna go to hell if she doesn’t listen to the white Christian nationalist in this country that make up a large part of the Republican party.

 

[daveman]

so you really meant to say the legacy in America, regardless of party is a mass grave.

Thanks to leftists, people like you who don't see the inherent value of human life, yes, that's why I'm saying.

America as a whole is to blame only for letting leftists fuck things up.

So you really meant to say you value human life, but everybody else in America, not so much.

You truly are a Saint.

Everybody else? No. Never said that.

You and people like you -- you don't value human life. Period. End of story.

 

[daveman]

I never said that either so you are a liar.

I do not believe in abortion for convenience. That’s why I got a vasectomy after my second daughter was born. 40 years ago.

I d did that out of respect for my wife who could not take the pill

Good for you. Yet your opposition to abortions of convenience changes nothing. The vast majority of abortions have nothing to do with the health of the mother or with rape or incest.

I think it’s none of my damn business to invade the privacy of every woman in the country because I think I’m of superior morality to them because of my judgment on the matter.

I would be happy as hell if both sides of the issue quit taking each other to court and going for these billion dollars worth of constitutional amendments and political ads and instead set up a program to support any woman who would have her baby if she could afford to support it,

but never never never in 1 million world years of human existence on this planet should the government be in the medical business telling her what she has
to do or can’t do.

Uh huh. How do you feel about vaccine mandates?

And don’t make it a freaking moral issue that she’s gonna go to hell if she doesn’t listen to the white Christian nationalist in this country that make up a large part of the Republican party.

Never have, never will. Each person's actions are between them and God. I have to answer only for my own.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Yet your opposition to abortions of convenience changes nothing.

it means you lied about me and every Democrat in the country.

 

[daveman]

it means you lied about me and every Democrat in the country.

Telling the truth about leftists is not lying, child.

"We want abortion to be safe, legal, and rare!"

All the while rejecting every proposal to make it safe and rare.

Leftism really is a death cult.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

That's your endgame. You want others to acknowledge your view of human life as worthless. It's a common leftist failing. Dehumanizing others lets you slaughter them with little regard.

And you don't have to believe what I do. No one has ever insisted you should. We are saying the unborn should be treated like what they are: Human beings with human rights.

Then perhaps they should take more care to not become pregnant. It's so very easy.

Why is it any of your business if a woman gets pregnant intentionally or unintentionally..

Because I value human life.

Because I value human life.

Leftists -- not so much.

I'm saying the baby she had a part in creating ALSO has a right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Never have, never will. Each person's actions are between them and God. I have to answer only for my own.

if it’s really between a woman and her God or her conscious when she does not believe in God it is moral, therefore, to believe that the sanctity of life begins at birth. I believe that; many Jewish people believe that; The majority of Christians and his country believe that or something in between such as 21 weeks.

So why do you say that you value human life. Leftists -- not so much.

We can all value human life and not pass judgment on each other as you say you don’t do., I believe the value of human life begins at birth because that’s when I believe the soul actually enters the body. That’s my belief. But I value life probably more than you do from that point on because of who I vote for.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Leftism really is a death cult.

how can that be?

See nfbw xii,cmcxxiii. 241116 Rvwgo12933

 

[daveman]

if it’s really between a woman and her God or her conscious when she does not believe in God it is moral, therefore, to believe that the sanctity of life begins at birth. I believe that; many Jewish people believe that; The majority of Christians and his country believe that or something in between such as 21 weeks.

So why do you say that you value human life. Leftists -- not so much.

We can all value human life and not pass judgment on each other as you say you don’t do., I believe the value of human life begins at birth because that’s when I believe the soul actually enters the body. That’s my belief.

Okay. It just boils down to believing the unborn are worthless.

But I value life probably more than you do from that point on because of who I vote for.

Good Gaea...you probably believe that, too.

 

[daveman]

how can that be?

See nfbw xii,cmcxxiii. 241116 Rvwgo12933

It's historic fact. All throughout history, leftists' favorite response to inconvenient people has been wholesale murder -- Armenians, Kazakhs, Cambodians, Jews, Roma, Slavs, and other non-Aryans, Ukrainians, and now the unborn...over a hundred million people dead because leftists didn't want to deal with them.

You're on the wrong side of history.

 

[Dagosa]

natal care???????????????????? killing an unborn human being is not natal care, it is murder.

No exceptions to save the life of the mother or prevent severe injury to the mother ? Rape, incest etc. ?
Answer !

 

[Dagosa]

Okay. It just boils down to believing the unborn are worthless.

Good Gaea...you probably believe that, too.

No it not worthless. Never has been. Even under RvW Abortions after the first trimester were rare and only if it threatened the health of the mother, rape and incest.

 

[Dagosa]

It's historic fact. All throughout history, leftists' favorite response to inconvenient people has been wholesale murder -- Armenians, Kazakhs, Cambodians, Jews, Roma, Slavs, and other non-Aryans, Ukrainians, and now the unborn...over a hundred million people dead because leftists didn't want to deal with them.

You're on the wrong side of history.

You’re on the wrong side. Only fascist nations took away choice.

 

[Dagosa]

so you admit they will catch your fakeness and inability to discuss fairly. Thanks.

Your stupid little questions are just stupid….