Roe v. Wade getting overturned!!

[whutTHEYsay]

the baby in the womb is a person .. if someone smashes the eggs in an eagles nest they left would call it a felony .

Do you think human females lay eggs in a nest and sit on them until they hatch.

Do female eagles get charged with a felony if they don’t hatch their eggs like the Catholic Church wants them to?

Do you think rational thinking is important for continued prosperity and progress in a western liberal democracy?

 

[yidnar]

Do you think human females lay eggs in a nest and sit on them until they hatch.

Do female eagles get charged with a felony if they don’t hatch their eggs like the Catholic Church wants them to?

Do you think rational thinking is important for continued prosperity and progress in a western liberal democracy?

there is no way i can convince you that a human being is killed during an abortion .. nothing will change your support for the acts of evil called abortion . you probably dont even believe in evil .

 

[whutTHEYsay]

a human being is killed during an abortion

Yes a human being in the fetal stage of life is killed when aborted. What now?

 

[yidnar]

Yes a human being in the fetal stage of life is killed when aborted. What now?

so if the human being killed during the abortion isnt the mother then said human being is not part of the womans body .

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Turd Diggler Broke Back Again Wants His Hole Filled "

* Grasping At Personification Straws *

Junk-y is still in babble mode.

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The remainder of his pseudo intellectualism is relegated to the trash can.

Yearn desperation is hilarious .

Persona and facade are on par with each other , as a dog could wear a mask of a face - a facade - and assume a role in a play , while all of the references ESPECIALLY TITLE 1 SECTION 8 of US CODE defines a PER SON as any having been BORN ALIVE .

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First recorded in 1650–60; from French, from Upper Italian faciada, Italian facciata, equivalent to facci(a) face + -ata -ade1

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First recorded in 1175–1225; Middle English persone, from Latin persōna “role” (in life, a play, or a tale) (Late Latin: “member of the Trinity”), originally “actor's mask,” from Etruscan phersu (from Greek prósōpa “face, mask”) + -na a suffix

 

[whutTHEYsay]

yidnar said: there is no way i can convince you that a human being is killed during an abortion .. yvdnvr.23.12.04 #12,002

NotfooledbyW said: Yes a human being in the fetal stage of life is killed when aborted. What now? nf.23.12.03 #12,003 to yvdnvr.23.12.04 #12,002

yidnar said: so if the human being killed during the abortion isn't the mother then said human being is not part of the women's body. yvdnvr.23.12.04 #12,004 to nf.23.12.03 #12,003

yvdnvr.23.12.04 image #12,004 nf.23.12.03 #12,003

Do you Saint Yidnar accept as a reality that abortion in America as choice for convenience nearly 100 percent of the time occur prior to 21 weeks of gestation per the data found in POST nf.23.09.19 #1

NotfooledbyW said: “Ninety-five percent of all abortions happen between six weeks and sixteen weeks”​

Please acknowledge Saint Yidnar if you take exception to the above referenced reality. Thanks in advanced.

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[Monk-Eye]

" Preposterous Arrogance Of Damned Dirty Ape "

* Existence Of A Collective State To Protects Citizens And Excuses For Killing *

so if the human being killed during the abortion isnt the mother then said human being is not part of the womans body .
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There is not a natural law against killing and the definition of murder is unlawful killing .

A law exists because there is an entity capable of and issuing a retort for violations of some act , and abortion is not murder according to us constitution .

 

[whutTHEYsay]

yvdnvr.23.12.04 image #12,004


Can you tell me Saint Yidnar why I must accept your illogic that the life energy that includes experiencing consciousness of being is not an essential part of a human being’s body?

How many individuals are experiencing consciousness of being “someone else” in the yvdnvr.23.12.04 image #12,004

Prior to 21 weeks, no fetus has survived outside the womb to begin life as an individual conscious human being. That makes it only one conscious human being in a 20 week gestating human female if you seek to define it rationally.

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[BackAgain]

" Turd Diggler Broke Back Again Wants His Hole Filled "

* Grasping At Personification Straws *

Yearn desperation is hilarious .

Persona and facade are on par with each other , as a dog could wear a mask of a face - a facade - and assume a role in a play , while all of the references ESPECIALLY TITLE 1 SECTION 8 of US CODE defines a PER SON as any having been BORN ALIVE .

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First recorded in 1650–60; from French, from Upper Italian faciada, Italian facciata, equivalent to facci(a) face + -ata -ade1

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First recorded in 1175–1225; Middle English persone, from Latin persōna “role” (in life, a play, or a tale) (Late Latin: “member of the Trinity”), originally “actor's mask,” from Etruscan phersu (from Greek prósōpa “face, mask”) + -na a suffix

Bleating and using words in random order are not the same thing as composing anything intelligible. Sorry, Junk-aye. But you’ve failed massively again.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" More On No Know Thing Premises From Back Again Broke Fecundry "

* Presents No Literation Of Premises And Pretends Others Are Incapable Of Discerning *

Bleating and using words in random order are not the same thing as composing anything intelligible. Sorry, Junk-aye. But you’ve failed massively again.

Ad Hominem

(Attacking the person): This fallacy occurs when, instead of addressing someone's argument or position, you irrelevantly attack the person or some aspect of the person who is making the argument. The fallacious attack can also be direct to membership in a group or institution.

* Taking Advantage Of Bumps In Opportunity And Challenging Foolishness *

What does the citation below mean for considerations about legitimate state interests in public policy on abortion ?

" Preposterous Arrogance Of Damned Dirty Apes "
* Existence Of A Collective State To Protect Citizens And Excuses For Killing *
There is not a natural law against killing and the definition of murder is unlawful killing .
A law exists because there is an entity capable of and issuing a retort for violations of some act , and abortion is not murder according to us constitution .

* Inception Fore Answers About Natural Law Of Nature *

Prior to entering into a social civil contract according to a constitution , one is subject to a moral relativism for event outcomes within nature .

To improve an opportunity for preserving ones own life and quality of life , natural freedoms are exchanged for protections provided by a greater collective of individuals .

A state is comprised of citizens , while a citizen and its constitutional protections are instantiated with a live birth requirement .

By equitable doctrine , equal protection with a citizen requires a live birth and a legitimate state interest in protecting a rite to life of any thing not having completed a live birth does not exist .

By us 14th amendment , states are prohibited in us 10th amendment from proscribing abortion .

By roe v wade , based upon an ability for a fetus to survive an imminent live birth , at post natural viability , in the third trimester , a state can proscribe abortion to protect a rite to life based on a potential for live birth , with exceptions for the life of the mother ; and , exceptions for major congenital abnormalities should be included as with cause .

By statistics , women are seeking with cause abortion in second and third trimester for developmental anomalies most often determined in the fetus by ultrasound between 13 and 20 weeks , assuming an availability of services , while women seeking without cause abortions are doing so within the first trimester .

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[whutTHEYsay]

“No country can be called free which is governed by an absolute power; and it matters not whether it be an absolute royal power or an absolute legislative power, as the consequences will be the same to the people.” Thomas Paine

Picaro said: “. . . re Paine, who wasn't a 'Founder, he held no offices and wasn't elected to anything, his babbling doesn't mean a thing.” pvcvrv.20.09.27 #467

White Christian Nationalists in the Republican Party are the leading proponents of forcing full term gestation on all women in opposition to the kind of liberty that Thomas Paine stood for.

White Christian Nationalists in the Republican Party must reject and downplay the absolutely necessary contribution Tom Paine made as a member of the founding generation because he was openly opposed to the irrational superstitions of the Christian church’s corrupt cohesive relationship with all the European Monarchies for 15 centuries of world history.

White Christian Nationalists in the Phyllis Schlafly / Donald Trump MAGA Movement seek a return to white European Style unelected authoritarian Judeo/Christian rule. That is what J6 wax about. Having an unelected divine king staying in power outdyde the US Constitution.

Because they seek it in the name of Jesus and to save Baby Fetus they were shielded in huge part because of RvW.

Dobbs has stripped the Republican Party and its earthly king of its holier than thou robes but it can’t sink in the way it should be to the bread and circus consumer class.

We need a Tom Paine again to stir the intellectual courage to reject MAGA as an irrational threat to the power of thefree individual over the divine right of king Trump to rule over us based upon the upside down version of a Biblical Worldview.

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[whutTHEYsay]

body .

Can you tell me Saint Yidnar why I must accept your illogic that the life energy that includes experiencing consciousness of being is not an essential part of a human being’s body?

How many individuals are experiencing consciousness of being “someone else” in the yvdnvr.23.12.04 image #12,004 cited above?

Second request nf.23.12.04 #12,008
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[whutTHEYsay]

K9Buck said: My ex-wife and I lost a couple of our offspring in the womb. I believe that they are alive and well in Heaven. knbvck.23.12.01 #1

Are they floating inside temporary bags of amniotic fluid Saint K9Buck waiting until you get there?

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[BackAgain]

" More On No Know Thing Premises From Back Again Broke Fecundry "

* Presents No Literation Of Premises And Pretends Others Are Incapable Of Discerning *

Ad Hominem

(Attacking the person): This fallacy occurs when, instead of addressing someone's argument or position, you irrelevantly attack the person or some aspect of the person who is making the argument. The fallacious attack can also be direct to membership in a group or institution.

* Taking Advantage Of Bumps In Opportunity And Challenging Foolishness *

What does the citation below mean for considerations about legitimate state interests in public policy on abortion ?


* Inception Fore Answers About Natural Law Of Nature *

Prior to entering into a social civil contract according to a constitution , one is subject to a moral relativism for event outcomes within nature .

To improve an opportunity for preserving ones own life and quality of life , natural freedoms are exchanged for protections provided by a greater collective of individuals .

A state is comprised of citizens , while a citizen and its constitutional protections are instantiated with a live birth requirement .

By equitable doctrine , equal protection with a citizen requires a live birth and a legitimate state interest in protecting a rite to life of any thing not having completed a live birth does not exist .

By us 14th amendment , states are prohibited in us 10th amendment from proscribing abortion .

By roe v wade , based upon an ability for a fetus to survive an imminent live birth , at post natural viability , in the third trimester , a state can proscribe abortion to protect a rite to life based on a potential for live birth , with exceptions for the life of the mother ; and , exceptions for major congenital abnormalities should be included as with cause .

By statistics , women are seeking with cause abortion in second and third trimester for developmental anomalies most often determined in the fetus by ultrasound between 13 and 20 weeks , assuming an availability of services , while women seeking without cause abortions are doing so within the first trimester .

* Abortion Anti-Choice Consequences For Rejecting The Values Of Us Citizenship *

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Zzz

You are dull when you’re silent. By much duller when you post.

You have nothing to say. But you use far too many words (fren the incorrect words) saying it.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

BackAgain said: You are dull….

Monk-Eye said: (Attacking the person): This fallacy occurs when, instead of addressing someone's argument or position, you irrelevantly attack the person or some aspect of the person who is making the argument. mvnkvyv.23.12.04 #12,010

BackAgain said: I’m not surprised that some States’ voters want to keep abortion available. And if some voters want to have Dems making their laws, the damages will fall in the residents of such states. bckvgn.23.11.08 #59

In reference to Saint BackAgain’s POST bckvgn.23.11.08 #59 I’d like to hear an explanation as to what what damages will fall on the residents of states where legal access to abortion as a woman’s right to life liberty and pursuit of happiness is enshrined in a state’s constitution.

I’m quite certain Saint Backagain’s assertion is a complete farce and based upon political dishonesty at it’s finest.

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[yidnar]

Can you tell me Saint Yidnar why I must accept your illogic that the life energy that includes experiencing consciousness of being is not an essential part of a human being’s body?

How many individuals are experiencing consciousness of being “someone else” in the yvdnvr.23.12.04 image #12,004 cited above?

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so someone under anesthesia is technically no longer a human being ? and for your info babies in the womb do feel pain ! you support abortion because you are selfish and sick .

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Can you tell me Saint Yidnar why I must accept your illogic that the life energy that includes experiencing consciousness of being is not an essential part of a human being’s body? nf.23.12.05 #12,012

How many individuals are experiencing consciousness of being “someone else” in the yvdnvr.23.12.04 image #12,004 cited above?

yidnar said: so someone under anesthesia is technically no longer a human being ? yvdnvr.23.12.05 #12,016

Point1. “someone under anesthesia” continues to have individual “life energy that includes experiencing consciousness of being” that began during the fetal stage of a human being at around the 21st week of gestation.

Is that correct. If you think it is not please make your case. Take your time.

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[whutTHEYsay]

yidnar said: “you support abortion because you are selfish and sick” • ¥¥¥ • yvdnvr.23.12.05 #12,016

I do not support abortion. Never did. My argument is in opposition to government forcing full term gestation on women.

Please stick to the facts and react to the precise language on record here.

Thanks if you can do that.

Monk-Eye said: “(Attacking the person): This fallacy occurs when, instead of addressing someone's argument or position, you irrelevantly attack the person or some aspect of the person who is making the argument“ mvnkvyv.23.12.04 #12,010

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[Monk-Eye]

" Another Example Of A Public Promoting Deprivation For Informed Consent "

* Anesthesia Counter Argument Absurdity *

so someone under anesthesia is technically no longer a human being ?

Someone under anesthesia or even terminally brain dead has been born and to remove their rite to life requires due process , which is a constitutional entitlement received at birth .

The " live birth " requirement by us constitution and an ethical argument for a " sentience requisite " are both rhetorical , as women are not seeking " without cause " abortion when those stages of development are relevant , rather women are seeking " with cause " abortion for developmental anomalies during those stages of development .


* Autonomic Nervous System Versus Cognitive Awareness From A Cerebral Cortex *

and for your info babies in the womb do feel pain !

https://serendipstudio.org/local/scisoc/brownbag/brownbag0506/fetalpain.pdf

Pain perception requires conscious recognition or awareness of a noxious stimulus. Neither withdrawal reflexes nor hormonal stress responses to invasive procedures prove the existence of fetal pain, because they can be elicited by nonpainful stimuli and occur without conscious cortical processing. Fetal awareness of noxious stimuli requires functional thalamocortical connections. Thalamocortical fibers begin appearing between 23 to 30 weeks’ gestational age, while electroencephalography suggests the capacity for functional pain perception in preterm neonates probably does not exist before 29 or 30 weeks.

Thalamocortical radiations - Wikipedia

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you support abortion because you are selfish and sick .

That the timelines and justifications for " with cause " abortion are ignored , and that " without cause " abortion is depicted when only " with cause " abortions are being sought , is the most egregious fabrication of deceit by the abortion anti-choice trope .

A " with cause " abortion is a choice made due to developmental anomalies , which are most often determined in the fetus by ultrasound from 13 - 20 weeks , and which could affect the life and future reproductive health of the would be mother at any time , and at those stages of development the would be mothers were preferring to deliver a healthy offspring .

The roe v wade decision substituted natural viability in lieu of a live birth requirement for equal protection with a citizen , that is based on an ability for a fetus to survive an imminent live birth , and that standard is sufficient to account for most situations affected by " with cause " abortion .

So do us all a favor and stop characterizing the general nature of women and families confronted by and optioning " with cause " abortion as heinous fiends .

 

[whutTHEYsay]

I nominate the following to be the very best articulate closing argument against Saving Baby Fetus Cult “fetuses feel pain” Argument. Unless MAGA can produce a counter argument so be it decided

yidnar said: “and for your info babies in the womb do feel pain! “ • ¥¥ • yvdnvr.23.12.05 #12,016

Monk-Eye said: “Pain perception requires conscious recognition . . . “ {For cont’n see • ¥ • mvnkvyv.23.12.06 #12,019 }

Monk-Eye said: . . . . . electroencephalography suggests the capacity for functional pain perception in preterm neonates probably does not exist before 29 or 30 weeks. {For cont’n see • ¥¥ • mvnkvyv.23.12.06 #12,019 }

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