Roe v. Wade getting overturned!!

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

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It is solely about each individual born to this world to have the rightful freedom of conscience that comes without harm to others.

Go fuck yourself, bigoted trash. You advocate harm to others, literally a violent death. It’s just that like your slaver peers in history, you hate those you want dead and don’t regard them as counting as “others.” You’re scum.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

NFBW230403-#8,100 “It is solely about each individual born to this world to have the rightful freedom of conscience that comes without harm to others”

Cplus6230403-#8,101 to: -1 ¥ CarsomyrPlusSix ¥ “It’s just that like your slaver peers in history, you hate those you want dead and don’t regard them as counting as “others.”

NFBW: There is no “other” person involved during the first 22 weeks of pregnancy. A pregnant woman’s body and soul, on or before the 22nd week of pregnancy, has only one brain as part of her being
pregnant

Does anyone understand what CarsomyrPlusSix is referring to when he refers to “others” that need to be counted?

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[Monk-Eye]

" Natural Law According To Spirochetes "

* Slang For Intellectual Degenerates *

The
Right to life is given by God, and therefore it pre-exist the declaration of independence, the constitution excetra.
Life and death are in God's hands, and man doesn't control it, although he wants too.

Any attempt to establish a congruence between the term right and correct are ridiculous absurdities that has caused mental retardation of political science and civics in the public at large .

The terms right and left are antonyms implying a direction that is perpendicular with respect to a direction , and only a dumbfounded conclusion would conjecture that the term right is congruent with a correct .

 

[NotfooledbyW]

THE RIGHTWINGDOM of god and the end of America’s rational love of democratic liberty to be crushed under the Holy Great Commission to save the brainless unborn. Only if rational Americans let it slip away.

APM220502-#2 to: -1 ¥ airplanemechanic ¥ “Nowhere in the constitution does it make abortion legal. This should be up to the states.”

NFBW: Yes. Mr. Airplane, The Hillbilly Christians and the whacko “less than half” of white anti-Biden irrational VIGANOCatholics believe “when the Constitution does not legalize self-induced pre-23:week abortion” , the white hillbilly guns n god Confederacy gits to literally shoot a woman’s medical procedure out of existence for Jesus and his Most Christian Nation.

JGalt220791-#1 ¥ JGalt ¥ “As a Patriot of faith, I attest my allegiance first and foremost to the kingdom of God and the Great Commission.”

NFBW: So, ¥ JGalt & airplanemechanic ¥ have you pledged yer allegiance first and foremost to the Kingdom of God and the Great Commission to protect every 15 week brainless fetus inside every woman's body who has a right to control both her body and her soul according to the dictates of the consciousness of her very own DNA unique and individual brain?

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[airplanemechanic]

THE RIGHTWINGDOM of god and the end of America’s rational love of democratic liberty to be crushed under the Holy Great Commission to save the brainless unborn. Only if rational Americans let it slip away.

APM220502-#2 to: -1 ¥ airplanemechanic ¥ “Nowhere in the constitution does it make abortion legal. This should be up to the states.”

NFBW: Yes. Mr. Airplane, The Hillbilly Christians and the whacko “less than half” of white anti-Biden irrational VIGANOCatholics believe “when the Constitution does not legalize self-induced pre-23:week abortion” , the white hillbilly guns n god Confederacy gits to literally shoot a woman’s medical procedure out of existence for Jesus and his Most Christian Nation.

JGalt220791-#1 ¥ JGalt ¥ “As a Patriot of faith, I attest my allegiance first and foremost to the kingdom of God and the Great Commission.”

NFBW: So, ¥ JGalt & airplanemechanic ¥ have you pledged yer allegiance first and foremost to the Kingdom of God and the Great Commission to protect every 15 week brainless fetus inside every woman's body who has a right to control both her body and her soul according to the dictates of the consciousness of her very own DNA unique and individual brain?

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WTF are you rambling on about? The fucking SCOTUS agrees with me so fuck off.

 

[Redfish]

Its quite obvious from the many posts in this thread that there will never be a concensus on abortion. So lets put it to a national or state by state vote and let the majority view prevail. Isn't that what democracy is all about? When we have a disagreement on something we vote and the majority view is followed by all.

Why not?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Redfish230404-#8,106 ¥ Redfish ¥ Its quite obvious from the many posts in this thread that there will never be a concensus on abortion. So lets put it to a national or state by state vote and let the majority view prevail. Isn't that what democracy is all about? When we have a disagreement on something we vote and the majority view is followed by all. •••• Why not?


NFBW: Good Post. Let’s make this thread a conversation based upon rationality and a healthy respect for persons who have met a birth requirement to be a lawful citizen that lives this country just like you and me.

There are many reasons why we must not put it to a national or state by state vote and let the majority view prevail.

My first “why not” is we must never allow the majority elected government in a state or federal government to do harm to a law abiding citizen who has done no harm to any other person. It’s a basic human right to be not harmed by the government In America even if you are a minority of one.

Pregnancy comes with risk to the pregnant person. You must agree with that. The risk you must agree is highest at the final month of pregnancy, and during the process of childbirth. When a woman becomes pregnant, without intent, regardless of the cause, she has a right to recognize that harm could come to her mental and physical existence as well as her financial situation and pursuit of happiness. I say the state should not be given an interest in her personal decision during the first 23 weeks because the fetus has not developed a brain in that amount of time.

So as I see it, when a state forces a woman to assume the risk of full term pregnancy against her will it is an egregious violation of her natural right to live her life according to her own conscience.

You must know that nether the voters who demand full term pregnancy or their government that bans abortion for them, do not assume the risk that a pregnant must take if she carries the baby to a moment of birth.

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[NotfooledbyW]

Redfish230404-#8,106 ¥ @Redfish ¥ Its quite obvious from the many posts in this thread that there will never be a concensus on abortion.

NFBW: We do not need or will we we ever get a consensus on abortion because it involves a mystery of life and is therefore a matter of individual conscience settled best by common law.

We had English Common Law in effect on abortion at our founding which did not assign value to; or a right to life to a fetus until quickening. That is viability in our time.

Why not secular Common Law instead of majority white Christian rule?

 

[Redfish]

Redfish230404-#8,106 ¥ Redfish ¥ Its quite obvious from the many posts in this thread that there will never be a concensus on abortion. So lets put it to a national or state by state vote and let the majority view prevail. Isn't that what democracy is all about? When we have a disagreement on something we vote and the majority view is followed by all. •••• Why not?


NFBW: Good Post. Let’s make this thread a conversation based upon rationality and a healthy respect for persons who have met a birth requirement to be a lawful citizen that lives this country just like you and me.

There are many reasons why we must not put it to a national or state by state vote and let the majority view prevail.

My first “why not” is we must never allow the majority elected government in a state or federal government to do harm to a law abiding citizen who has done no harm to any other person. It’s a basic human right to be not harmed by the government In America even if you are a minority of one.

Pregnancy comes with risk to the pregnant person. You must agree with that. The risk you must agree is highest at the final month of pregnancy, and during the process of childbirth. When a woman becomes pregnant, without intent, regardless of the cause, she has a right to recognize that harm could come to her mental and physical existence as well as her financial situation and pursuit of happiness. I say the state should not be given an interest in her personal decision during the first 23 weeks because the fetus has not developed a brain in that amount of time.

So as I see it, when a state forces a woman to assume the risk of full term pregnancy against her will it is an egregious violation of her natural right to live her life according to her own conscience.

You must know that nether the voters who demand full term pregnancy or their government that bans abortion for them, do not assume the risk that a pregnant must take if she carries the baby to a moment of birth.

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majority votes elect our leaders and decide our local tax rates. democracy is what we live by, except when you libs fear for your minority views.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Redfish230404-#8,109 to: -2 ¥ Redfish ¥ “majority votes elect our leaders and decide our local tax rates. democracy is what we live by, except when you libs fear for your minority views.

NFBW: When we elect leaders to make laws and enforce them; the laws need to be made in strict compliance with the Constitution. Minority rights are protected under the Constitution from the tyranny of the majority. Are you advocating changing that to permitting tyranny of the majority?

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[NotfooledbyW]

NFBW230401-#8,072 to: -1 At least ¥ Blackrook ¥ is honest enough to admit that the abortion divide in America is entirely about religion - way more so than about science and logic.

Redfish230401-#8,074 to: -2 ¥ Redfish ¥ “ religion, yes, and common sense. both of which you seem to lack.”

NFBW: What did you mean when you said “religion, yes? Do you agree with me the abortion divide in America is entirely about religion - and way more so than about science and logic.

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[Monk-Eye]

" Populism For Clueless Despotism "

* Something To Contest Not Revere *

WTF are you rambling on about? The fucking SCOTUS agrees with me so fuck off.

The dobbs decision by scrtotus is sedition against us 14th , 9th and 1st amendments , that is supported by traitors to us republic .

 

[Monk-Eye]

" More Complicated Than Dumbfounded Deductions "

* Arrogance For Ignorance In Need Of Translation *

majority votes elect our leaders and decide our local tax rates. democracy is what we live by, except when you libs fear for your minority views.

Populism as democracy by tyranny of the majority facilitates socialists , communists and theocracies which are elected around the world , so apparently the principles of individualism and us republic have eluded you .

The liberal versus conservative paradigm is intellectual buffoonery that causes mental retardation of public understanding for political science and civics .

An economic liberal is synonymous with an economic libertarian , as libertarianism promotes negative wrights as proscriptions against authoritarian actions of government , to provide negative liberties with respect to government and to act independent of government , which is to assert free market capitalism with minimal government .

Economic liberalism is the preface of globalists offshoring us industry and abandonment for the american school of economics .

 

[NotfooledbyW]

RevBlues230326-#9 to: -8 ¥ RevenantBlues ¥ The way one determines right from wrong (in the absence of any god's wrath) is to identify and differentiate between those actions which harm the continuation of our species and those which benefit it and encourage its proliferation. •••• For instance, abortion—even without the dusty presence of ancient deities—can be easily identified as morally wrong; the act of abortion—mass abortion in particular—severely reduces the number of humans available to procreate and continue our species. Thus, and without any inclination toward deity worship, the act of abortion is provably, morally wrong.

NFBW: I take it that you are a proponent of forced full term pregnancy from the biological instance of conception. So do you save the life of the mother or the fetus when the life or health of one or both is at risk or do you insist that nature take its course as the only moral way continue the human species?

Do you personally assume the risk of every woman living in a “freedom first” state or has means to travel to one, who privately and morally decides its in her best interest to terminate an unwanted pregnancy let’s say at week ten in order live their lived with no obligation whatsoever or mandate from you to proliferate in order to continue the human species.

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[NotfooledbyW]

00023 alang230326-#23 to: -22 With or without God the answer is the same. We as a society determine what is right and what is wrong. Religion merely reflects and codifies it. Look at the moral code of the ancient Hebrews, Medieval Christians, and Western Culture today. We arguably live under the same God but can hardly be said to share the same morality.

00046 ding230327-#46 to: -23 So we as a society could determine that it was moral to own slaves? And that would make it moral?

08115 NFBW: Deprivation of liberty by members of Catholic influenced western civilization until the Enlightenment for the crime of being born in a ‘primitive” society was always determinable to be wrong and immoral whether one accepted Catholic doctrine or not. But for most of that Catholic civilization, liberty was not what liberty became with the advent of the American Revolution.

So to answer @ding’s question we as a society do not get to determine that something is morally acceptable when certain action causes harm to others’ individual liberty. That universal principle and obligation must be applied when the “restrained person” has never been adjudicated to have caused harm to others’ life, limb, property or liberty.

Slaveholders, every single one, deprived every single slave they owned of liberty. They were doing harm to others.

A woman who is in a condition of unwanted pregnancy and decides to terminate prior to her fetus becoming an “other” in any physical or biological capacity, is not in any moral sense harming or depriving a part of her body of liberty.

I’m curious as to what alang1216 would like to comment on as we’re are in the political wake of the Republican Catholic influenced Dobbs decision that is the direct subject of this thread,

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[NotfooledbyW]

Trump holds 'emergency prayer call' to boost 'supernatural wisdom'​

David Edwards April 05, 2023

"But one thing that I've always remained solid on, that is our faith, our religion, our Christianity, our beautiful Christianity," he continued. "And one of the things I think, and I really believe this, and perhaps the main thing that our country needs again is religion. We have to have religion. We're losing our religion in our country."

White explained the purpose of the call.

"We're so grateful for your heart, for your fight, for your stamina," she opined. "We know you stand at the front on behalf of us all. And as we offer up these prayers for you and your family, we can secure your life, your purpose, your calling. We pray just supernatural wisdom over you and strength to you."

"This army of believers is blowing up everything right now," she added. "Just shows how loved you are."

NFBW: It could be amusing to those of is in the rational natural world except it is terrifying to recall that Paula White and that anti/abortion Jesus army had a emergency mass prayer like this for GW Bush to have a supernatural god on our side, put a boot up Saddam Hussen’s ass hillbilly Christisn victory in Iraq. How many lives were aborted and fucked up there.

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[Redfish]

" More Complicated Than Dumbfounded Deductions "

* Arrogance For Ignorance In Need Of Translation *

Populism as democracy by tyranny of the majority facilitates socialists , communists and theocracies which are elected around the world , so apparently the principles of individualism and us republic have eluded you .

The liberal versus conservative paradigm is intellectual buffoonery that causes mental retardation of public understanding for political science and civics .

An economic liberal is synonymous with an economic libertarian , as libertarianism promotes negative wrights as proscriptions against authoritarian actions of government , to provide negative liberties with respect to government and to act independent of government , which is to assert free market capitalism with minimal government .

Economic liberalism is the preface of globalists offshoring us industry and abandonment for the american school of economics .

horseshit, your side is screaming for segregation, reparations, abortion on demand as birth control, defunding the police, kowtowing to China. You fools are destroying this country and you are too stupid to realize it.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

"Sergey Mardan, the host of Solovyov Live, described the situation in the U.S. as a slow-simmering civil war," said the report.

Trump faces 'brutal' mockery on Russian state TV over indictment: report

Russian state TV is "brutally" mocking former President Donald Trump, following his indictment on 34 counts of felony business record fraud for his alleged $130,000 hush payment to adult film star Stormy Daniels, The Daily Beast reported on Wednesday."During Friday’s broadcast of [Russian TV...

www.rawstory.com

"Dmitry Mikheyev, who formerly served as a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute but later returned to Russia, told the host that Trump is a beacon of conservative values who is being persecuted for his beliefs, against a backdrop featuring Trump behind bars and a scantily clad Stormy Daniels. Mikheyev described a 'deep civilizational divide' brewing in America on the basis of race, religion and politics — with Trump’s arrest exacerbating the situation. 'This is a serious conflict that is almost of a religious nature. And we’re certainly glad! If everything is bad in America,' Mardan said, 'It will impact us, but the enemy has to be destroyed!'"

NFBW: We’ll the Trump side has all the guns n ammo and god and the Supreme Court for the next 20 years. Wonder why the Putin Allies feel like they are losing.

How does Trump know for sure that his team of attorneys was not planted by the deep state.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Sedition Supported By Traitors To Us Republic "

* Arguing With Down Syndrome Dictators *

horseshit, your side is screaming for segregation, reparations, abortion on demand as birth control, defunding the police, kowtowing to China. You fools are destroying this country and you are too stupid to realize it.

I am a republican for abortion choice , so those over drawn presumptions are half baked with a large aggregate of clueless stupidity .

Being that it has been repeated ad-nausea to the sanctimonious demonstrating imbecilic notions by ranting about incest and rape while too disingenuous to intimate developmental anomalies , the " with cause abortion " accounts for approximately 6% of all abortions and occur in the second trimester ( D & C ) , and " with cause abortion " accounts for approximately 1% of all abortions ( dilation and curettage ) and occur in the third trimester , while the remaining 93% of abortions are optioned in the first trimester ( medical - medication ) .

The " with cause " abortions are referred to as " abortion on demand " by traitors to us republic first amendment establishment clause and by traitors to principles of individualism espoused by a credo of e pluribus .

The natural tendency of individuals to seek " without cause " abortion when " with cause " abortion are valid is fabricated , false and fake news ; and , a live birth requirement , or viability in lieu of a live birth requirement based upon a " potential life " by an ability to survive a live birth requirement , are rhetorical , as well as necessary stipulations of us constitution to protection individuals from populism of democracy as tyranny by majority .

Such is clear proof of simply how dumbfounded are those violations by sanctimonious institutions against us 1st amendment establishment clause , against us 14th amendment equal protection with a citizen clause , and against us 9th amendment equal protection of negative liberties among individuals clause .


* Really Folk Fabricating Foolishness Soothsayers *

A state does not have a valid interest in when life begins , or whether life exists at all , as the only valid state interest is in whether equal protection with a citizen abides by a defacto , a priori , standard of equitable doctrine , where from it arises that as a citizen and constitutional protections are instantiated through a live birth requirement then consequently live birth is required for equal protection .

The standard of deductive reason has remained a basic premise of legal wrights which includes the definition of a person , which must meet a live birth requirement , which is simply a clarification of the obvious , which is equitable doctrine the necessitates a live birth requirement for equal protection with a citizen .

Demand Any Nomination For Us Supreme Court Justice Explain Blackmun ' Logically Of Course ' Statement From Roe V Wade

" Demand Any Nomination For Us Supreme Court Justice Explain Blackmun ' Logically Of Course ' Statement From Roe V Wade " * On Behalf Of Pro Choice Republican Constitutionalism * The next nominee for us supreme court should be asked to explain the following statement from justice blackmun whom...

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* Historically Challenged Clear As Day Known Shift Of Traitorous Support *

Us 14th amendment did not define a person and roe v wade opinions reflected that should a person be defined in statute to include those prior to live birth , then equal protection with a citizen clause , which would include a wright to life , would be afforded .

The sedition of dobbs decision by scrotus included not only a violation of a live birth requirement for equal protection with a citizen , it blatantly and flagrantly ignored that the definition of a per son in title 1 section 8 of us code stipulates a live birth requirement !

Constitution Check: Could Roe v. Wade be overruled without amending the Constitution? | Constitution Center

Lyle Denniston, Constitution Daily’s Supreme Court correspondent, looks at an argument supported by Rand Paul in a proposed Senate bill that seeks to use the 14th Amendment as a way to end abortion without enacting a constitutional amendment.

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[NotfooledbyW]

I am a republican for abortion choice , so your half baked stupidity is about as clueless as the rest of your presumptions .

Four out of five Republicans behind Trump are that stupid on everything.

CarsomyrPlusSix had a meltdown when he finally found out that a fetus is part of a woman’s body, There is only one brain running the show during the first twenty weeks in a woman’s body so it is quite ignorant to rationalize that there are two persons involved at least during the first twenty weeks when most abortions are taking place,

How do we get rid of pro/choice justices if the one of five pro/choice Republicans keep voting for presidents who appoint from the Federalist Society’s approved anti/choice list of judges?