Restoring Honor Rally

[Wry Catcher]

ok. so can you answer the question please?

No, I would not call George Washington a fascist.

Now answer my question. If honor needs to be restored, if must have been taken. How can honor be taken, and, if it was taken, who took it?

Honor does not have to be taken, honor can however disappear as faith fades from the people. Today's rally was to help inspire americans to be kind and charitable, tolerant and loving. Values that stem from judeo-christian heritage the heritage of the founding fathers. the source of their wisdom and their sacred honor, and the source of the motivation to make the USA the most free and secure nation under GOD.

Get it?

I Get it. It's an emotional appeal devoid of reason.

Honor has nothing to do with faith in a God, and if it did your restricting such faith to the jude-christian ethos proves it does not. Other people believe in God, by many different names, yet your post suggests they are dishonorable, or at least lack honor.
For the record, honor, is defined as a good name, a good reputation.
If you accept this definition (if you don't define it in your response) then we can agree a nation may have honor or be dishonorable.
By this defintion I accept our nation needed our honor restored, given the dishonorable acts done in her name at Abu Ghraib, in the denial of basic human rights by the practice of extraordinary rendition, by holding human beings in GitMo without benefit of trial for years and in denying the absolute right of habeas corpus to Jose Padilla; as well as waging war in Iraq without meeting the standards of a Just War (Bellum iustum); in particular causing the deaths of civilians.
But restoring honor had nothing to do with Beck or those who funded and organized the rally today. It was all about restoring the Republican Party to power, that is the agenda, hidden, but in fact its purpose.

 

[Liberty]

No, I would not call George Washington a fascist.

Now answer my question. If honor needs to be restored, if must have been taken. How can honor be taken, and, if it was taken, who took it?

Honor does not have to be taken, honor can however disappear as faith fades from the people. Today's rally was to help inspire americans to be kind and charitable, tolerant and loving. Values that stem from judeo-christian heritage the heritage of the founding fathers. the source of their wisdom and their sacred honor, and the source of the motivation to make the USA the most free and secure nation under GOD.

Get it?

I Get it. It's an emotional appeal devoid of reason.

Honor has nothing to do with faith in a God, and if it did your restricting such faith to the jude-christian ethos proves it does not. Other people believe in God, by many different names, yet your post suggests they are dishonorable, or at least lack honor.
For the record, honor, is defined as a good name, a good reputation.
If you accept this definition (if you don't define it in your response) then we can agree a nation may have honor or be dishonorable.
By this defintion I accept our nation needed our honor restored, given the dishonorable acts done in her name at Abu Ghraib, in the denial of basic human rights by the practice of extraordinary rendition, by holding human beings in GitMo without benefit of trial for years and in denying the absolute right of habeas corpus to Jose Padilla; as well as waging war in Iraq without meeting the standards of a Just War (Bellum iustum); in particular causing the deaths of civilians.
But restoring honor had nothing to do with Beck or those who funded and organized the rally today. It was all about restoring the Republican Party to power, that is the agenda, hidden, but in fact its purpose.

shit, man, i disagree with you, but at least you have made a reasonable and somewhat logical response. its kind of refreshing.

 

[bodecea]

Lots of non-white speakers at this event. Why would so many minorities show up and speak at an event like this if it was a discrace to MLK or if a bunch of "racist white people" were going to the rally?

It looks like reality and the anti-rally talking points are in conflict.

bodecca called her a "token" the other day. It was a jab at the asshole bodecca.

Sometimes it amazes me how easily lies roll off your tongue. Go ahead and show the post where I....I said she WAS a token....

Go right ahead. Amuse us.

Yoo Hoo! Willow! Why do you always lie and run?

 

[Samson]

bodecca called her a "token" the other day. It was a jab at the asshole bodecca.

I hate that The Imposter sullies my name.

She was Bodecca before you stole her username. Anyone here from hannity.com can testify to that.

It's easy to tell you apart: she's Bodecca, and you are Bodickhead.

You mean;

"Bodecea," not Bodecca.

 

[Samson]

Oh there is a point, the point is that you are admitting that you are closed minded. That your opinions are formed only by those you agree with...must be comforting for you.

I've listened to Glenn Beck for years, a lot of him when he was on CNN. And he was NOT as loony as he is now. Imagine that. Ca-ching ca-ching...

i call bullshit.

I doubt highly you ever listened to him beyond what was filtered through media smatters. Why? because you spout hyperbole. You never referenced what you used to here except in broad strokes. And if you listened any time in the last 5 years like I have, you'd know what it is he has been talking about.

I wouldn't be so quick to accuse.

Maggie could have easily listened to Glenn Beck, but armed with the mental capacity of the average Beagle, quite probably didn't understand a word she heard.

 

[Zona]

The rally is about honoring soldiers? Who's the guest speaker for that?

Ah, so it turns out there were tens of hundreds of people there. Go Glenn, go.

do you have a problem with the message of helping the children of fallen military personnel through college too?

You should ask Hannity.

Sean Hannity’s Freedom CONcert Scam: Almost None of Charity’s $ Went to Injured Troops, Kids of Fallen Troops; G5s for Vannity? | Debbie Schlussel

After all is said and done, I will let you know if Beck does the same thing.

 

[Liberty]

Ah, so it turns out there were tens of hundreds of people there. Go Glenn, go.

do you have a problem with the message of helping the children of fallen military personnel through college too?

You should ask Hannity.

Sean Hannity’s Freedom CONcert Scam: Almost None of Charity’s $ Went to Injured Troops, Kids of Fallen Troops; G5s for Vannity? | Debbie Schlussel

After all is said and done, I will let you know if Beck does the same thing.

um....the money donated does not get given to beck, it is given directly to the warrior foundation via direct website or cell phone donations...

you really are braindead...

 

[DavidS]

He states that we need to restore honor and that it will take a lot of hard work, personal sacrifice, and time to do so.

No one involved in the rally claimed that by having one rally honor would be restored, they are calling it the beginning of the journey down to road to restore honor.

Is that more calm Sorry.

And what credentials does Glenn Beck possess to make him an authority on what constitutes honor?

Good question, try asking one of the 100,000+ that showed up.

Glenn Beck rally drew a crowd. But how big? - Scott Wong - POLITICO.com

How many people jammed the National Mall Saturday to take part in Glenn Beck's "Restoring Honor" rally?



Tens of thousands? Certainly. One hundred thousand? Perhaps. Half a million? No one can really say for sure.



Crowds packed the area around the Reflecting Pool, standing shoulder-to-shoulder under the canopy of trees, as they strained to see the half a dozen big-screen monitors near the Lincoln Memorial. Families huddled around the World War II Memorial fountain, dipping their feet in the water to stay cool under the August sun. And they laid out camping chairs and sun umbrellas, filling the large grassy area between the memorial and the Washington Monument.

Organizers pulled event permits for up to 300,000 people, and expected at least 100,000 to show up.



Beck said he had heard the crowd was between 300,000 and 500,000, "and if that's coming from the media, God only knows."



But the Associated Press said tens of thousands of people participated in the rally.



Authorities wouldn't say how many people turned out. The National Park Service stopped estimating crowds in 1997 after it was accused of underestimating the size of the Million Man March two years earlier.
Sgt. David Schlosser, spokesman for the U.S. Park Police, said it's extremely difficult to estimate crowds of this magnitude, given their fluctuations throughout the day and the fact that some are simply tourists.
"We are not the event organizers. We are merely the police officers for the event," Schlosser said. "It's a better policy not to provide crowd estimates. It doesn't offer us anything from an operational standpoint."


The size of Saturday's crowd does, however, matter to Beck and other organizers who say the turnout is indicative of American's growing anger with the direction the country is headed under President Barack Obama and a Democrat-led Congress.


Matt Michaels, 32, of West Minister, Md., joined the thousands that carved out a small space around the Reflecting Pool.


"It was people from all over the country," he said. "It was tight, compact, but it goes to show we're uniting across all races, all ideas."


More than 100 members of the Kentucky 9/12 Project were on hand, some who had attended last year's tea party rally on the mall on Sept. 12.
"We've decided to start taking responsibility for ourselves rather than wait for our representatives," said member Anne Nagy, 51, of Danville, Ky. "Its not about parties. It's about honor."

 

[Avatar4321]

Back from the Rally. Ill write up a report later. Need food.

 

[Avatar4321]

And what credentials does Glenn Beck possess to make him an authority on what constitutes honor?

We need credentials to read a dictionary and use common sense?

Heck, no wonder we are in so much trouble lately.

 

[WillowTree]

bodecca called her a "token" the other day. It was a jab at the asshole bodecca.

Sometimes it amazes me how easily lies roll off your tongue. Go ahead and show the post where I....I said she WAS a token....

Go right ahead. Amuse us.

Yoo Hoo! Willow! Why do you always lie and run?

what did ya do go back and edit it? I'm not the only one who remembers what you said you filthy racist.

 

[Avatar4321]

Who would you prefer?

Well?

Anyone?

Would anyone who disapproved of the rally like to offer an alternative?

If not, I suppose we are to assume that there isn't any.

if this rally proves anything of the left it is their hatred of freedom. it really is that simple.

This rally wasn't about left or right.

 

[Avatar4321]

As I've said several times, if it were anybody but Glenn Beck leading the charge, I'd agree wholeheartedly. But he has a clear agenda. End of story.

He does have a clear agenda. Restore Faith, Hope, Charity, Honor, and a love for the Constitution.

What's so bad about that?

 

[Avatar4321]

Restoring Honor means? It suggests that honor was taken, if honor can be taken, who took it?

Seems to me, and I only watched a short time, this was another in a series of events where uber-patriotism and God are used to appeal to the emotions of the people. It reminded me of this well known remark, ' When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.

Of course I'm not suggesting Beck or those who organized today's event or past 'tea parties' are fascists, but they do put on events based solely on emotion which appeal to those who seem to want to hear simple solutions to complex and myraid problems.

Though the stage included a bit of diversity, when the camera pans the crowd there were only white people in view, and most appeared well fed and dressed in middle-class attire.

based on that statement, would you say george washington was a fascist?

Glen Beck is no George Wasington. BTW, are you dishonest, or have reading comprehension problems?
"Of course I'm not suggesting Beck or those who organized today's event or past 'tea parties' are fascists..."

Did anyone claim Beck was George Washington?

I think maybe you should ask yourself those very same questions.

 

[WillowTree]

And what credentials does Glenn Beck possess to make him an authority on what constitutes honor?

Good question, try asking one of the 100,000+ that showed up.

Glenn Beck rally drew a crowd. But how big? - Scott Wong - POLITICO.com

How many people jammed the National Mall Saturday to take part in Glenn Beck's "Restoring Honor" rally?



Tens of thousands? Certainly. One hundred thousand? Perhaps. Half a million? No one can really say for sure.



Crowds packed the area around the Reflecting Pool, standing shoulder-to-shoulder under the canopy of trees, as they strained to see the half a dozen big-screen monitors near the Lincoln Memorial. Families huddled around the World War II Memorial fountain, dipping their feet in the water to stay cool under the August sun. And they laid out camping chairs and sun umbrellas, filling the large grassy area between the memorial and the Washington Monument.

Organizers pulled event permits for up to 300,000 people, and expected at least 100,000 to show up.



Beck said he had heard the crowd was between 300,000 and 500,000, "and if that's coming from the media, God only knows."



But the Associated Press said tens of thousands of people participated in the rally.



Authorities wouldn't say how many people turned out. The National Park Service stopped estimating crowds in 1997 after it was accused of underestimating the size of the Million Man March two years earlier.
Sgt. David Schlosser, spokesman for the U.S. Park Police, said it's extremely difficult to estimate crowds of this magnitude, given their fluctuations throughout the day and the fact that some are simply tourists.
"We are not the event organizers. We are merely the police officers for the event," Schlosser said. "It's a better policy not to provide crowd estimates. It doesn't offer us anything from an operational standpoint."


The size of Saturday's crowd does, however, matter to Beck and other organizers who say the turnout is indicative of American's growing anger with the direction the country is headed under President Barack Obama and a Democrat-led Congress.


Matt Michaels, 32, of West Minister, Md., joined the thousands that carved out a small space around the Reflecting Pool.


"It was people from all over the country," he said. "It was tight, compact, but it goes to show we're uniting across all races, all ideas."


More than 100 members of the Kentucky 9/12 Project were on hand, some who had attended last year's tea party rally on the mall on Sept. 12.
"We've decided to start taking responsibility for ourselves rather than wait for our representatives," said member Anne Nagy, 51, of Danville, Ky. "Its not about parties. It's about honor."

yes, and according to the left assed press about ten people showed up two years ago for the tea party rally, so we're really going to rely on your sources ain't we?

 

[Avatar4321]

People were jam packed from the Lincol Memorial to the WW2 Memorial. There were people all over the WW2 memorial and then alittle more space but still an insane amount of people from the WW2 memorial to the Washington Monument.

I stood in line at the metro for 1.5 hours. The line went around this huge parking lot. There were still tons of people in line when I got on. It was like that several places down the line.

I didn't get a chance to see the overflow area. but what I saw, I can easily believe 300,000 minimum.

That's not including everyone who was coming late. Glenn is going to go over the numbers on Monday. He specifically went out of his way to record the attendees so the media can't play games with the numbers.

Id like to see what the UK press says. I think they will be more accurate.

 

[Samson]

Good question, try asking one of the 100,000+ that showed up.

Glenn Beck rally drew a crowd. But how big? - Scott Wong - POLITICO.com

Tens of thousands? Certainly. One hundred thousand? Perhaps. Half a million? No one can really say for sure.


Organizers pulled event permits for up to 300,000 people, and expected at least 100,000 to show up.



Beck said he had heard the crowd was between 300,000 and 500,000, "and if that's coming from the media, God only knows."



But the Associated Press said tens of thousands of people participated in the rally.

Then why don't you simply use the AP citation, and provide the link to it?

Actually, all News Sources are using the "tens of thousands" number, because the NPS stopped estimating crowd sizes after they received so much shit for allegedly underestimating the numbers for the 1995 "Million Man March."

 

[Samson]

Id like to see what the UK press says. I think they will be more accurate.

I thought so too.

BBC America uses "tens of thousands" as their estimate.

 

[Avatar4321]

Id like to see what the UK press says. I think they will be more accurate.

I thought so too.

BBC America uses "tens of thousands" as their estimate.

Heck, that sounds like the line for the metro... lol

 

[mudwhistle]

Does it really matter?

Nobody's covering it so they'll just make shit up anyway.