Republicans, Trump feel we don't breathe enough Mercury. We NEED more!

[deanrd]

If you wait long enough, the discoloration becomes the "normal" look.

The EPA caused that spill under the Obama administration, troll king.

OK, I believe you. All I want to see is the link.

In the meantime, you seem to be saying what the Trump administration is doing is FINE with you.

You must not have any kids. I know Republicans don't want to leave a good country to their children. But it seems they don't want to leave any country at all to any kids.

And while we are at it, here is a card you can play. Seems to work really well for Trump Fans.

 

[deanrd]

Trump administration’s attack on clean water is hurting Pennsylvania residents

The lowdown on Trump’s lowdown Dirty Water Rule

Why Trump wants to repeal an Obama-era clean water rule

Last year, President Trump signed an executive order directing the EPA to begin the long process of repealing the Clean Water Rule and replacing it with ... something else.
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We have a dirty administration run by a dirty cabinet. The president is dirty. Our foreign policy is dirty. Trump's economics are dirty.

It only makes sense we end up with dirty land, dirty air and dirty water.

For some reason, Republicans LOOOOOVE "dirty".

 

[SSDD]

You must not have any kids. I know Republicans don't want to leave a good country to their children. But it seems they don't want to leave any country at all to any kids.

Actually, we want to leave our kids a country in which they are still guaranteed the freedoms promised in the constitution...where they can still earn a decent living and not be taxed into poverty paying for socialist welfare programs...a country that isn't an autocratic socialist hell.

 

[deanrd]

You must not have any kids. I know Republicans don't want to leave a good country to their children. But it seems they don't want to leave any country at all to any kids.

Actually, we want to leave our kids a country in which they are still guaranteed the freedoms promised in the constitution...where they can still earn a decent living and not be taxed into poverty paying for socialist welfare programs...a country that isn't an autocratic socialist hell.

Like the right to vote?

Like an education?

Like healthcare?

Like clean air and clean water?

Oddly enough, all things Republicans are against.

Their rhetoric says one thing, their policies say another.

No wonder they love Trump. I heard that his tally of lies since he's been in office is way over six thousand.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

The EPA caused that spill under the Obama administration, troll king.

OK, I believe you. All I want to see is the link.

Here you go, dumbass

Navajo Nation Sues E.P.A. in Poisoning of a Colorado River

In the meantime, you seem to be saying what the Trump administration is doing is FINE with you.

And how do I seem to be saying that?

You must not have any kids.

I have one, actually. You, on the other hand, I doubt very much, since that would require you to get a woman naked.

And while we are at it, here is a card you can play. Seems to work really well for Trump Fans.

You're the one who brought up an Obama era EPA disaster, troll king, not me.

You can shut up now.

 

[SSDD]

Like the right to vote?

Like an education?

Like healthcare?

Like clean air and clean water?

Typical liberal...guess you never read the constitution...none of those things are either promised, or protected by the constitution.

Oddly enough, all things Republicans are against.

Again..typical liberal...the very shallowest of feel good thinking...

You need to present valid ID if you want a f'ing library card...why shouldn't you have to present valid ID to vote for the leaders of the nation?

You think it is my responsibility to pay taxes in order to pay for someone else's education?

I don't want government in charge of my health care...I don't want to have some number cruncher at some point tell me that it is just to expensive to treat me based on my life expectancy...

The clean air and water bullshit is just that...we have made great strides in cleaning up the environment no thanks to democrats...and if they would learn some forest management we wouldn't be choking on the smoke from the fires that evidence their poor land management skills.
Their rhetoric says one thing, their policies say another.

 

[Crick]

Like the right to vote?

Like an education?

Like healthcare?

Like clean air and clean water?

Typical liberal...guess you never read the constitution...none of those things are either promised, or protected by the constitution.

Dean never claimed those things were protected by the Constitution. But they're inarguably of value to the nation and they were universally opposed by political conservatives like YOU.

Oddly enough, all things Republicans are against.

Here is the real reason some folks are liberal and some folks are conservative.

These key psychological differences can determine whether you're liberal or conservative

 

[fncceo]

We definitely need more Mercury!

 

[deanrd]

The EPA caused that spill under the Obama administration, troll king.

OK, I believe you. All I want to see is the link.

Here you go, dumbass

Navajo Nation Sues E.P.A. in Poisoning of a Colorado River

In the meantime, you seem to be saying what the Trump administration is doing is FINE with you.

And how do I seem to be saying that?

You must not have any kids.

I have one, actually. You, on the other hand, I doubt very much, since that would require you to get a woman naked.

And while we are at it, here is a card you can play. Seems to work really well for Trump Fans.

You're the one who brought up an Obama era EPA disaster, troll king, not me.

You can shut up now.

I don't understand really ignorant people who post stuff and don't bother to read their own article.

Let me break it down for you.

To start with, this is from your article:

An image of three kayakers on the Animas River became a neon media sensation, drawing attention to a problem that continues to plague the West: The region has thousands of old, acid-filled mines, some leaching into waterways, others that could burst at any time. The mines have filled with poison from water and air entering earth cavities, mixing with sulfurous minerals.

Can you read that? This is a problem going back to the Gold Rush. And you're blaming Obama? This reminds me of Republicans who blame the poor response after 2005 Katrina on Obama who wasn't sworn in until 2009. FAAAAAAHHHHK!!!!

So then what happened?

The E.P.A. took responsibility for the accident and has spent $29 million to address cleanup and compensate communities, including the Navajo Nation.

A nearby water treatment plant put in place by the E.P.A. removes 95 percent of contaminants.

E.P.A.’s Office of the Inspector General has opened a criminal investigation into the spill.

This is called taking responsibility for a problem that's a hundred years old.

This also shows what happens when your kind doesn't bother to read the article you post. From the title, you thought it said something else. But just in case, here is a card for later on. When you do this again:

Consider yourself "spanked".

 

[deanrd]

Like the right to vote?

Like an education?

Like healthcare?

Like clean air and clean water?

Typical liberal...guess you never read the constitution...none of those things are either promised, or protected by the constitution.

Oddly enough, all things Republicans are against.

Again..typical liberal...the very shallowest of feel good thinking...

You need to present valid ID if you want a f'ing library card...why shouldn't you have to present valid ID to vote for the leaders of the nation?

You think it is my responsibility to pay taxes in order to pay for someone else's education?

I don't want government in charge of my health care...I don't want to have some number cruncher at some point tell me that it is just to expensive to treat me based on my life expectancy...

The clean air and water bullshit is just that...we have made great strides in cleaning up the environment no thanks to democrats...and if they would learn some forest management we wouldn't be choking on the smoke from the fires that evidence their poor land management skills.
Their rhetoric says one thing, their policies say another.

What do you mean no thanks to Democrats?

You seriously think Republicans care about the environment?

Why do you think North Carolina is swimming in pig turds and radioactive coal ash?

Florence sparks pollution fears after excrement-filled 'hog lagoons' overflow

 

[80zephyr]

There is a huge difference between a pristine environment and a livable environment. Like in every other area of our lives, we determine whats "safe enough". Its the reason why we don't lower the speed limit to 25 mph nationwide. Sure, such a move would save thousands of lives, but would unduly hamper how we live.

Same thing here. You always have to apply the "law of diminishing returns" to any situation, including this one.

So the question becomes, "is some mercury in our environment an acceptable trade off to our overall quality of life?"

Mark

 

[SSDD]

Dean never claimed those things were protected by the Constitution. But they're inarguably of value to the nation and they were universally opposed by political conservatives like YOU.

You really can't read...can you...

I said:

"we want to leave our kids a country in which they are still guaranteed the freedoms promised in the constitution."

He replied:

" Like the right to vote?

Like an education?

Like healthcare?

Like clean air and clean water?"

Go lick your wounds...and learn to read in the down time.

These key psychological differences can determine whether you're liberal or conservative

Let me guess....you think that sort of tripe represents reality...not surprising...you think the IPCC assesments represent rigorous science....laughable...

 

[Indeependent]

Trump EPA Says Mercury Limits On Coal Plants Too Costly, Not 'Necessary'

When coal is burned it releases mercury into the air, where it can cause health risks to people including neurological disorders, heart and lung problems and compromised immune systems. Babies developing in the womb and young children are especially at risk.

Trump proposal to weaken mercury standards could have broad impact on other anti-pollution rules

Reported emissions declined 69 percent between 2014 and 2016 after coal-fired power plants installed technology to meet the new clean air standards.

Harold P. Wimmer, president and CEO of the American Lung Association, said the current rule shouldn't be weakened considering it's estimated to prevent 11,000 premature deaths each year and has dramatically reduced mercury pollution, a potent neurotoxin that causes brain damage in babies.

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I'm with the Republicans on this one.

Fuk all those do gooders.

Clean air and clean water? Bah! Who needs them?

I just tell the kids it's not dirty water, it's chocolate. Drink up!

Bon Appétit!

I presume you have a State Department of Health.
Or are you that ignorant?

 

[SSDD]

What do you mean no thanks to Democrats?

Which part of the sentence are you having trouble understanding

You seriously think Republicans care about the environment?

Of course...Republicans tend to be conservationists...as opposed to environmentalists...one is actually concerned with intelligent use of the environment...the other thinks that humans should adopt a hands off approach....which is why California is burning..

Environmentalist: Someone whose agenda and work is driven by a set of over-arching beliefs - an ideology
Conservationist: Someone who is working on a practical solution to a particular problem

Environmentalist: The environment is to be saved, preserved, set aside, protected from human abuse.
Conservationist: The environment is something we use, so we have to conserve it and take care of it, so that others can use it in the future.

Environmentalist: From somewhere else - a national, international, or state capitol group Conservationist: Local, a neighbor or community member

Environmentalist: Extreme, radical, impassioned
Conservationist: Practical, balanced

Environmentalist: Rarely satisfied
Conservationist: Pragmatic

Environmentalist: Gloomy
Conservationist: Solution-oriented

Environmentalist: Plays a necessary role - a public conscience and watchdog.
Conservationist: Contributes to the community. Makes a difference.

Environmentalist: Slightly superior/righteous (I don't waste energy, eat GMO food, why do you!?)
Conservationist: Just one of us

Environmentalist Stereotype: Greenpeace activist
Conservationist Stereotype: Local duck hunter

Why do you think North Carolina is swimming in pig turds and radioactive coal ash?['quote]

I live in North Carolina...You know what pig turds smell like? Money, jobs, and security for families who live in rural areas.

And I haven't seen the first hint of coal ash...where might I go to see people swimming in it?

 

[deanrd]

There is a huge difference between a pristine environment and a livable environment. Like in every other area of our lives, we determine whats "safe enough". Its the reason why we don't lower the speed limit to 25 mph nationwide. Sure, such a move would save thousands of lives, but would unduly hamper how we live.

Same thing here. You always have to apply the "law of diminishing returns" to any situation, including this one.

So the question becomes, "is some mercury in our environment an acceptable trade off to our overall quality of life?"

Mark

You said: There is a huge difference between a pristine environment and a livable environment.

And that's the problem.

My ideal environment doesn't include pig turds and radioactive ash.

 

[80zephyr]

There is a huge difference between a pristine environment and a livable environment. Like in every other area of our lives, we determine whats "safe enough". Its the reason why we don't lower the speed limit to 25 mph nationwide. Sure, such a move would save thousands of lives, but would unduly hamper how we live.

Same thing here. You always have to apply the "law of diminishing returns" to any situation, including this one.

So the question becomes, "is some mercury in our environment an acceptable trade off to our overall quality of life?"

Mark

You said: There is a huge difference between a pristine environment and a livable environment.

And that's the problem.

My ideal environment doesn't include pig turds and radioactive ash.

There is a huge difference between a pristine environment and a livable environment. Like in every other area of our lives, we determine whats "safe enough". Its the reason why we don't lower the speed limit to 25 mph nationwide. Sure, such a move would save thousands of lives, but would unduly hamper how we live.

Same thing here. You always have to apply the "law of diminishing returns" to any situation, including this one.

So the question becomes, "is some mercury in our environment an acceptable trade off to our overall quality of life?"

Mark

You said: There is a huge difference between a pristine environment and a livable environment.

And that's the problem.

My ideal environment doesn't include pig turds and radioactive ash.

What about mercury? Any acceptable level in your ideal environment?

Mark

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The benefit would be a power system that produces less greenhouse gases; a value that eludes you I guess.

Such as?

 

[skookerasbil]

The idiot OP never said dick when Soetero was president and didnt do anything on climate change....had both houses of Congress. Didnt do dick.

Oh....and how many Americans exactly are out there worried about the mercury today? Dean and about 73 others? Maybe?

 

[deanrd]

The idiot OP never said dick when Soetero was president and didnt do anything on climate change....had both houses of Congress. Didnt do dick.

Oh....and how many Americans exactly are out there worried about the mercury today? Dean and about 73 others? Maybe?

Oh, once again we are struck by dumb fukery. The regulations Trump are rolling back are Obama’s.
Duh!
No Not duh, DOUBLE DUH!

 

[Andylusion]

Trump EPA Says Mercury Limits On Coal Plants Too Costly, Not 'Necessary'

When coal is burned it releases mercury into the air, where it can cause health risks to people including neurological disorders, heart and lung problems and compromised immune systems. Babies developing in the womb and young children are especially at risk.

Trump proposal to weaken mercury standards could have broad impact on other anti-pollution rules

Reported emissions declined 69 percent between 2014 and 2016 after coal-fired power plants installed technology to meet the new clean air standards.

Harold P. Wimmer, president and CEO of the American Lung Association, said the current rule shouldn't be weakened considering it's estimated to prevent 11,000 premature deaths each year and has dramatically reduced mercury pollution, a potent neurotoxin that causes brain damage in babies.

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I'm with the Republicans on this one.

Fuk all those do gooders.

Clean air and clean water? Bah! Who needs them?

I just tell the kids it's not dirty water, it's chocolate. Drink up!

Bon Appétit!

I need far more information than this.

I love how you post a picture of something that clearly has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

Here is what I need to know. How much in a difference in standards are we looking at? Are we going from 50 ppm to 60 ppm? What difference in health effects, over what area, are we talking about?

And how much does it cost?

If we end up doubling the cost of power, over a 10 ppm change.... which will have negligible health impacts.... then that doesn't sound like a bad idea to me.

but of course I'm talking with a left-winger, so no amount of science matters. It's all pollution bad, and we can destroy society for it.