Republican senators block extension to ACA subsidies

[Fort Fun Indiana]

They weren't affording it

They were. And they were affording it before the pandemic subsidies. Because buying elsewhere would have been more expensive.

It's a simple.concept, try to follow.

 

[DonGlock26]

They were. And they were affording it before the pandemic subsidies. Because buying elsewhere would have been more expensive.

It's a simple.concept, try to follow.

They paid more and got less. Obamacare was designed to fail in order to bring about single payer nationalised health insurance.

 

[PeanutGallery]

Here's a quote from someone who called themselves the 'architect' of the Affordable Care Act, Jonathan Gruber.

“If you have a law that makes explicit that healthy people pay in and sick people get money, it wouldn’t have passed,” he said in one video. “Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage, and basically call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really critical to getting the thing to pass.”

Do I know if he really was the architect of ACA? Not sure. Does sound like he had a key role in the creation of the bill. He's said to have had a major role with the creation of Romneycare, so it wouldn't be a surprise if he didn't do for the ACA. He had to later apologize for this comment.

 

[Greenbeard]

They paid more and got less. Obamacare was designed to fail in order to bring about single payer nationalised health insurance.

Ergo the best way to own the libs is to keep letting it work. Stop trying to break it, continue the enhanced premium tax credits, cut the interminable GOP bullshit. That'll show the single-payer crowd.

 

[DonGlock26]

Ergo the best way to own the libs is to keep letting it work. Stop trying to break it, continue the enhanced premium tax credits, cut the interminable GOP bullshit. That'll show the single-payer crowd.

That's propping Obamacare up. No thanks.

 

[Greenbeard]

That's propping Obamacare up. No thanks.

Then I guess you single-payer types will get what you want sooner rather than later.

 

[DonGlock26]

Then I guess you single-payer types will get what you want sooner rather than later.

Just scrap Obamacare.

 

[dudmuck]

Translation...you were triggered when I reminded you Obama and Democrats OWN 100% of Obamacare. Tissue?

 

[Nostra]

"Foxworthy didn't use that line" ........ Bullshit.

You obviously have limited access to several of the shows that were televised where on Stage, Foxworthy did indeed proclaim "If You are.... Then here's Your Sign!"

I'm Not "Embarrassed" at all,..... Nostra,

And thanks to several years experience of having interacted with Certifiable Idiots/"Key Board Warriors" that have nothing more to do than nit pick something insignificant, in the hopes of receiving praise from the forum,.... Your "Ejaculating Insults", are nothing more than passing wind.

I realize that those with an IQ lower than their Shoe Size,such as yer fine self,.... Zealously seek Attention, so they carry out acts like this,.....Instead of having a Meaningful, Truth Seeking Conversation.

Sorry stupid, you are lying.

Engvall uses the "Here's your sign".

Foxworthy uses "If you do "X", you might be a redneck.

You are welcome for this education, Simp.

 

[Mr Natural]

Just scrap Obamacare.

And replace it with…

 

[Nostra]

Medical insurance costs are skyrocketing for the same reason college tuition is skyrocketing- the gov't is subsidizing it.

Anytime the govt gets involved in private industry costs skyrocket and service plummets.

 

[Nostra]

Yes, the deletion of the mandate eliminated the one, main provision to make health insurance cheaper.

You probably didn't know the mandate was actually their idea. Newsmax does not show you things like this.

It's is clearly unconstitutional for the feds to force Americans to buy a product.

Unfortunately, fascists like you can't comprehend that.

Just think how expensive it would be if the Govt had the power to force everyone to but it

 

[M14 Shooter]

And replace it with…

Why do you think it needs to be replaced with anything?

 

[westwall]

Electoral suicide.

Democrats have lost over 2 million

 

[westwall]

I do. And Inp
I do. By paying taxes. And I do so for a total price that's fifty percent less than Americans pay. And despite this the "bills" I pay give me a better healthcare system you are likely to enjoy.

See I'm Belgian, my wife's American and I have experience with both Universal healthcare and your system both pre-and post Obamacare. Experience that has convinced both me and my wife that it doesn't really matter in the end how bills are paid, be it by taxes or paying out of pocket. What matters is what's cheaper.

Ahhhh, that explains A LOT!

 

[Concerned American]

After saying the government should stay out of healthcare, the Trump sycophant does a 360 because his cult leader supports giving money away in health savings accounts . .

Take a remedial class in reading comprehension, moron. You were educated that Trump did not introduce HSAs and only someone with your limited abilities would comport that with support for them. SMFH.

 

[Lisa558]

They were. And they were affording it before the pandemic subsidies. Because buying elsewhere would have been more expensive.

It's a simple.concept, try to follow.

They were “affording” it because taxpayers were subsidizing them. It was never affordable. Now, as Obamacare has escalated the costs of insurance, they need even MORE subsidizes so people can “afford” it.

The definition of affordable, to Dems, is that other people pay for it. I could afford a $2 million mansion as long as other people send in 80% of my mortgage payments to the bank.

 

[DonGlock26]

And replace it with…

Private insurance

 

[Lisa558]

Private insurance

More people could afford private insurance than can now afford unsubsidized Obamacare. We should go back to that.

 

[berg80]

Key ACA tax credits likely to expire after House speaker blocks vote​

Key tax credits that reduce the cost of Affordable Care Act health insurance coverage for millions of Americans looked likely to expire by the end of the year after House Speaker Mike Johnson said Tuesday that there would be no vote on extending those subsidies this week.

The House is not in session next week, meaning that Johnson was not leaving the door open for a later vote before the boosted ACA premium assistance expires.

There remains a chance that enough Republicans in Johnson’s majority caucus agree to back a Democrat-led effort to force an effective vote on extending the tax credits for Obamacare health plans.

The tactic, a discharge petition, is identical to one recently used to force a vote on a bill compelling the release by the Department of Justice of investigative files related to sex predator Jeffrey Epstein.

Key ACA tax credits likely to expire after House speaker blocks vote

Democrats in the House back a last-ditch effort to extend Obamacare subsidies, which relies on a tactic recently used for the Jeffrey Epstein files bill.

www.cnbc.com

Mike is no doubt doing Don's bidding. The guy who's been promising an ACA replacement for almost a decade.