How worried are R's about the ACA premium hike backlash? This worried.

[Lesh]

Shutup sock.

Greenbeard can fight his own fight, or run away, as he sees fit.

**** you. Subsidies drop out at $70K stupid

That’s hardly “multimillionaires “ you lying shit

Just stop

 

[Nostra]

Because the GOP deleted the individual mandate.

The GOP likes to break things and then make fun of them for being broken.

Liar.

The courts ruled it was unconstitutional.

 

[berg80]

Shutup, sock.

Stay in your drawer until I call for you.

Gee, so sensitive. I would have thought you'd have grown a thicker skin by now after repeatedly posting really dumb, ignorant stuff and being called out for it.

 

[Seymour Flops]

And those enhanced subsidies phase out at incomes a little over $70,000 for an individual, given average benchmark premiums this year.

Well, you've just got that wrong.

But no big deal. Only 14 more days and the time limit Democrats set will pass and those millionaires will pay for more of their own healthcare.

 

[Greenbeard]

Well, you've just got that wrong.

Doesn’t seem like you understand the issue.

 

[Lesh]

Liar.

The courts ruled it was unconstitutional.

They did not liar. They ruled that it was a tax and thus constitutional

Republicans subsequently reduced that tax to “0” effectively killing it

Stop lying stupidly

 

[Seymour Flops]

Doesn’t seem like you understand the issue.

This would be the time for you to post proof that there is an income limit on the enhanced COVID subsidies.

 

[Greenbeard]

This would be the time for you to post proof that there is an income limit on the enhanced COVID subsidies.

The subsidies pay the difference between 8.5% of income and the price of a benchmark premium. The “limit” is any income for which the benchmark premium is less than 8.5% of income, at which point the value of the subsidy hits zero.

Which for a single buyer in a market with the U.S.-average benchmark premium of ~$500/month would be an income of a little over $70,000. No subsidies are available for incomes above that.

 

[Seymour Flops]

The subsidies pay the difference between 8.5% of income and the price of a benchmark premium. The “limit” is any income for which the benchmark premium is less than 8.5% of income, at which point the value of the subsidy hits zero.

Which for a single buyer in a market with the U.S.-average benchmark premium of ~$500/month would be an income of a little over $70,000. No subsidies are available for incomes above that.

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[Greenbeard]

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Yes, $70,000 is above 400% FPL, so this phase out at this income would not happen under the original design of the ACA. There would simply be a cliff at 400% FPL, which is closer to $60,000.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Yes, $70,000 is above 400% FPL, so this phase out at this income would not happen under the original design of the ACA. There would simply be a cliff at 400% FPL, which is closer to $60,000.

We will go back to just that subsidy once the uncapped enhanced ACA credits expire as of Jan 1st.

 

[Lesh]

We will go back to just that subsidy once the uncapped enhanced ACA credits expire as of Jan 1st.

Which will DOUBLE the cost of premiums

 

[Seymour Flops]

Which will DOUBLE the cost of premiums

From $50 to $107.

Cry harder Lesh.

 

[Independent thinker]

White House to pitch a Trump Obamacare extension with limits​

The White House expects to soon unveil a health policy framework that includes a two-year extension of Obamacare subsidies due to expire at the end of next month and new limits on eligibility, according to three people granted anonymity to discuss the unannounced plans.

The proposal would mark President Donald Trump’s foray into Capitol Hill negotiations over how to address health care premium spikes set to hit Affordable Care Act enrollees if Congress lets the premium subsidies expire.

A White House official declined to confirm the details of the plan, saying, “Until President Trump makes an announcement himself, any reporting about the administration’s healthcare positions is mere speculation.” MS NOW first reported news of Trump’s intent to announce a new health care framework as soon as Monday to address spikes in ACA insurance premiums.

As part of a deal to reopen the government earlier this month, Senate Republicans agreed to give Democrats a vote on the ACA tax credits in December. But GOP lawmakers across the Capitol have been divided over how to respond to the subsidy deadline, leaving many eager for Trump to reveal his preferences. Hard-line conservatives have been pushing to let the subsidies expire while moderate Republicans have been pressing for an extension. Some Republicans are angling for a health care overhaul to replace the credits.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/23/white-house-to-propose-new-health-care-framework-00666701

Don is nothing if not unpredictable so you never know what he will or won't do until he does it. But I think it's fair to say that while many on the board were doing a happy dance over the idea of R's "winning" the shutdown, meaning unaffordable healthcare for millions, R congressmen were not as sanguine. With everything else that's going against R's heading towards the midterms it would appear defending the position of "people on ACA plans can go screw themselves" is one they'd rather not be put in a position of having to do.

Notice how the potentially proposed two year extension gets them past the election?

Premium rates have nothing to do with subsidies. The premiums are the premiums.

 

[berg80]

Four House Republicans force vote on ACA subsidies, bucking GOP leadership​

Four moderate House Republicans rebelled against House Speaker Mike Johnson on Wednesday, joining Democrats to force a vote on extending key Affordable Care Act subsidies that are set to expire at the end of the year.

If approved, the measure will extend ACA tax credits for three years.

If those subsidies expire as scheduled, the prices of Obamacare health insurance premiums that millions of Americans personally pay will skyrocket.

The stunning defections by the quarter of Republicans came a day after Johnson, R-La., said that GOP leaders would not allow a vote under normal procedures on keeping the enhanced ACA tax credits alive into 2026.

Johnson earlier Wednesday morning urged GOP caucus members not to join Democrats in the procedural end-run around him.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/17/johnson-aca-republicans-health.html

Another weak R Speaker who can't control his nutty caucus.

 

[Lesh]

From $50 to $107.

Cry harder Lesh.

Per month. For people that can barely afford the $50

 

[hadit]

We can't stop them. If they want it, like Kavanaugh and Pete Hegseth, Trump can do and appoint anyone he wants. Excuses are coming I see.

Why would democrats not want a two-year extension? They're only cutting off their nose to spite their face.

 

[Greenbeard]

Why would democrats not want a two-year extension? They're only cutting off their nose to spite their face.

Dems in the House are going to pass a three-year extension.

 

[Nostra]

They did not liar. They ruled that it was a tax and thus constitutional

Republicans subsequently reduced that tax to “0” effectively killing it

Stop lying stupidly

You just confirmed what I said. It was unconstitutional, Dumbass.

 

[sealybobo]

Why would democrats not want a two-year extension? They're only cutting off their nose to spite their face.

How are things going for you Republicans right now? So no we are not cutting off our noses. We are watching you commit political suicide. My how quickly things can change huh? Are you going to listen to Trump's speech tonight where he gaslights us for an hour and lies to us about how well he's doing?

You know 2 months ago I was pissed at the Democrats for caving in on the government shut down but now I see they did the right thing. Just let the Republicans hang themselves.

How many dolls and pencils can you afford this xmas?