Reparations: Who Gets Paid?

[PoliticalChic]

Hello, Ms. Political Chic.

During this broadcast California Surgeon General and pediatrician Dr. Nadine Burke Harris, MD, MPH, FAAP, speaks about the need to create a NATIONAL MOVEMENT for educating Child Caregivers about a potential life scarring medical disease known as Childhood Trauma or Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs).



Ms. Political Chic, I would like to thank you for helping me, aid Doctor Harris, as well as other medical professionals who are passionately attempting to educate Child Caregivers about our Nation's Child Care Public Health CRISIS.

Ms Political Chic, your intelligent, well thought out replies to my writings, as well as the other content I shared in this thread are very much appreciated.

Peace.

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Ms. PC. I'm curious to learn your response to this question >>>
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State the question.

Here's the question

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Stop hiding behind memes and state the question.

I called your bluff.

So there really is no question.

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Still can't articulate a simple question about your concerns????

My concerns about what issue or issues are you referring to, PC?

Peace.

You asked my opinion, yet you are unable to put the question in words.

What are you afraid of?

Hi, PC. One of my many fears is YOU, an apathetic, willfully ígnorant citizen who for whatever reasons, chooses to ignore the FACT that for decades untold numbers of American kids and teens of African descent, THRU NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN, have been SUFFERING our Nation's highest rates of potential life scarring Child Neglect, Abuse, Abandonment and Maltreatment at the hands of a significant population of apparent emotionally troubled, SELFISH, apathetic, incompetent teen and adult mothers failing to recognize that placing ABOVE ALL ELSE the emotional well-being of the children they chose to create, will most likely result with a fairly or wonderfully happy child maturing into a reasonably well adjusted teen and adult citizen caring about their own well-being (NY Times May 18, 2015 – Rise in Suic!de by Black Children Surprises Researchers), as well as the welfare of their peaceful or less fortunate neighbors.

"Black Children Have The Highest Abuse Rates," by BlackVoiceNews

https://www.firststar.org/black-children-have-highest-abuse-rates

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Peace.

Stop the spam.


If you aren't bright enough to formulate a sentence, get lost.

Stop the spam.


If you aren't bright enough to formulate a sentence, get lost.

 

[PoliticalChic]

If the Democrats win in November......you can bet on reparations.



1.Terms of recrimination come and go. Once upon a time, probably due to the end of WWII, the attack-words were “you Fascist, you!!”

“The term can even be extended to any dictatorship that has become unfashionable among intellectuals. [working-class Americans call it "Communism." Middle-class Americans, educated enough to understand that it's uncouth to say anything against Communism, call it "fascism."] When the Soviet Union and People's China had a falling out in the 1960s, they each promptly discovered that the other fraternal socialist country was not merely capitalist but "fascist." At the most vulgar level, "fascist" is a handy swear-word for such hated figures as Rush Limbaugh or John Ashcroft who, whatever their faults, are as remote from historical Fascism as anyone in public life today.”

“The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele

The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele

THE LIBERTARIAN ALLIANCE is an independent, non-party group, brought together by a shared desire to work for a free society. The Libertarian Alliance is pledged to fight statism in all its forms, and to engage in long range propaganda for the Libertarian alternative.

www.la-articles.org.uk

What is most interesting is that the real curse should be ‘You communist, you!” because communism was, by every measure, worse than Nazism/Fascism, but the influence of the Marxism, due to FDR, shifted the vituperation.

“American progressives, for the most part, did not disavow fascism until the horrors of the Nazi Holocaust became manifest during World War II. After the war, those progressives who had praised Mussolini and Hitler in the 1920s and 1930s had no choice but to dissociate themselves from fascism. “Accordingly,” writes Jonah Goldberg, “leftist intellectuals redefined fascism as 'right-wing' and projected their own sins onto conservatives, even as they continued to borrow heavily from fascist and pre-fascist thought.” This progressive campaign to recast fascism as the "right-wing" antithesis of communism was aided by Joseph Stalin, ....”

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1223

2. What is the ubiquitous curse today? Of course, it is “You racist, you!!” And that brings us to the question of why that is so, and where it is headed. Clearly, using the term against another is meant to express moral outrage at slavery and oppression, and one’s own virtue-signaling. It has gotten to the point where it presages both a dangerous threat, and, a laugh-line:

“Thrilled with their role as ‘white friend-of-the-blacks,’ many found that they could actually make a living at it! The part requires sneering at nonexistent racists, and memorizing one line: “Goddam it, this may cost me my career but I’m going to speak up for racial equality and let the chips fall where they may!”
Coulter



3. But here’s where it is going: paying the underclass to vote Democrat, what we euphemistically call the ‘welfare system,’ or the ‘safety net,’ has lasted over half a century. Now, the Left needs to insure those votes, so they are ready to up the ante: Reparations.

But….who gets this huge round of largesse?

Who gets paid?

"Man Charged in Brutal NYC Demands Reparations, Cites 400 Years of Supposed Slavery​

Slavery didn’t exist in the United States for four hundred years, spanning from the 17th century to the end of the Civil War in 1865.

Glynn is accused of gunning down a 19-year old Burger King employee in a premeditated robbery, in addition to beating a 60-year old manager. Glynn faces first-degree murder charges in the killing of Kristal Bayron-Nieves, who had started working at the Burger King just weeks ago."

Man Charged in Brutal NYC Murder Demands Reparations, Cites 400 Years of Supposed Slavery - Big League Politics

He supports the Democrat agenda.

bigleaguepolitics.com

No doubt a Democrat voter.

 

[alang1216]

"Man Charged in Brutal NYC Demands Reparations, Cites 400 Years of Supposed Slavery​

Slavery didn’t exist in the United States for four hundred years, spanning from the 17th century to the end of the Civil War in 1865.

Glynn is accused of gunning down a 19-year old Burger King employee in a premeditated robbery, in addition to beating a 60-year old manager. Glynn faces first-degree murder charges in the killing of Kristal Bayron-Nieves, who had started working at the Burger King just weeks ago."

Man Charged in Brutal NYC Murder Demands Reparations, Cites 400 Years of Supposed Slavery - Big League Politics

He supports the Democrat agenda.

bigleaguepolitics.com

No doubt a Democrat voter.

Possibly a GOP voter, since, least we forget, it was they that first proposed reparations.

 

[daveman]

Possibly a GOP voter, since, least we forget, it was they that first proposed reparations.

This guy's a Democrat. There is no rational way to deny it.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Possibly a GOP voter, since, least we forget, it was they that first proposed reparations.

I can't recall the last time anything that's true could be found in your posts.

Were you always this way?

This guy's a Democrat. There is no rational way to deny it.

Liars....Democrats, have no problem denying the truth.

 

[alang1216]

This guy's a Democrat. There is no rational way to deny it.

Sure, but you have no trouble denying history?

 

[alang1216]

I can't recall the last time anything that's true could be found in your posts.

My thoughts exactly. I do note you made no attempt to refute that it was the GOP that first proposed reparations.

 

[PoliticalChic]

My thoughts exactly. I do note you made no attempt to refute that it was the GOP that first proposed reparations.

"Reparations legislation could soon be headed to the House floor for the first time in more than three decades. Now comes the hard part.

Wednesday night, the House Judiciary Committee voted to bring H.R. 40 out of committee — a historic feat not accomplished since the late Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.) first introduced a reparations bill in 1989. The legislation has been introduced in every Congress since then but never made it past a committee vote until last night, where it was approved with the support of 25 Democrats over 17 Republicans."

Reparations bill approved out of committee in historic vote

Now comes the hard part: Getting buy-in from enough lawmakers.

www.politico.com

 

[alang1216]

"Reparations legislation could soon be headed to the House floor for the first time in more than three decades. Now comes the hard part.

Wednesday night, the House Judiciary Committee voted to bring H.R. 40 out of committee — a historic feat not accomplished since the late Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.) first introduced a reparations bill in 1989. The legislation has been introduced in every Congress since then but never made it past a committee vote until last night, where it was approved with the support of 25 Democrats over 17 Republicans."

Recent history does not negate the FACT that it was the GOP that first proposed reparations.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Recent history does not negate the FACT that it was the GOP that first proposed reparations.

Vote-buying, called 'reparations' is a Democrat scheme.

Please stop trying to hide that.

 

[alang1216]

Vote-buying, called 'reparations' is a Democrat scheme.

Please stop trying to hide that.

I love the way you try and change the subject rather than admit I'm right.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I love the way you try and change the subject rather than admit I'm right.

You tried to change who is behind reparations.

You will never be more than lying scum, a tool of the Left.

 

[alang1216]

You tried to change who is behind reparations.

You will never be more than lying scum, a tool of the Left.

Never, I only pointed out which party first proposed reparations. No more no less. I irks you because you refer to the Dems as the party of slavery and Jim Crow when that party no longer exists. You don't like to hear that when the Dems were the party of slavery and Jim Crow, the GOP was the party of reparations. History can be so inconvenient to one's ideology.

 

[daveman]

Sure, but you have no trouble denying history?

Depends. Is it real history, or Democrat history?

 

[daveman]

Never, I only pointed out which party first proposed reparations. No more no less. I irks you because you refer to the Dems as the party of slavery and Jim Crow when that party no longer exists. You don't like to hear that when the Dems were the party of slavery and Jim Crow, the GOP was the party of reparations. History can be so inconvenient to one's ideology.

You keep stamping your feet and pouting when you should be providing citations.

 

[alang1216]

You keep stamping your feet and pouting when you should be providing citations.

Sorry, I thought it common knowledge, even PoliticalChic never disputed it. But for you:

Before the Civil War ended, General William Tecumseh Sherman issued an order in South Carolina. He wanted 40 acres and the loan of an Army mule set aside for each former slave family. This order was never carried out. After the war, Radical Republicans in Congress passed laws requiring confiscation of former-Confederate property to provide the ex-slaves with "40 acres and a mule." In 1866, President Andrew Johnson vetoed the legislation.

 

[daveman]

Sorry, I thought it common knowledge, even PoliticalChic never disputed it. But for you:

Before the Civil War ended, General William Tecumseh Sherman issued an order in South Carolina. He wanted 40 acres and the loan of an Army mule set aside for each former slave family. This order was never carried out. After the war, Radical Republicans in Congress passed laws requiring confiscation of former-Confederate property to provide the ex-slaves with "40 acres and a mule." In 1866, President Andrew Johnson vetoed the legislation.

40 acres and a mule sure wouldn't fly today. That means work.

Meanwhile, that was to be paid for by people who had owned slaves. Are there any slave owners today to take that money from?

No?

So you want everyone to pay for something they weren't involved in...including the descendants of slaves (unless you don't tax black people).

Furthermore, how would you decide who is entitled to reparations? Not all black people in America are the descendants of slaves. Can't just hand out checks to all of 'em, can you? How would you have people prove their ancestors were slaves?

And I think I should point out that President Johnson was a Democrat who opposed Federally-guaranteed rights for black Americans.

 

[PoliticalChic]

40 acres and a mule sure wouldn't fly today. That means work.

Meanwhile, that was to be paid for by people who had owned slaves. Are there any slave owners today to take that money from?

No?

So you want everyone to pay for something they weren't involved in...including the descendants of slaves (unless you don't tax black people).

Furthermore, how would you decide who is entitled to reparations? Not all black people in America are the descendants of slaves. Can't just hand out checks to all of 'em, can you? How would you have people prove their ancestors were slaves?

And I think I should point out that President Johnson was a Democrat who opposed Federally-guaranteed rights for black Americans.

Absurd presentation of the argument:

Clearly, no Republicans should be responsible for paying reparations. In fact, the debt was paid off by the nation in the mid-nineteenth century.

"At least 620,000 combatants died during the four-year struggle; recent estimates put the total closer to 750,000, or more than 2 percent of the nation’s population at that time. More soldiers died in prison camps alone than America lost during the entire Vietnam War. Perhaps more to the point, some 350,000 Union soldiers died during the conflict, abolitionists in effect if not always in intent. Adjusted for population, that would amount to almost 5 million service deaths today, amounting to a blood sacrifice more than sufficient to redeem whatever moral or intellectual inconsistencies there are to be found in America’s founding documents.

And if that’s not sufficient? Well, then, nothing will be. But for most Americans—and for much of the rest of the world—it is more than enough. "
Blood Redemption

 

[alang1216]

40 acres and a mule sure wouldn't fly today. That means work.

Meanwhile, that was to be paid for by people who had owned slaves. Are there any slave owners today to take that money from?

No?

So you want everyone to pay for something they weren't involved in...including the descendants of slaves (unless you don't tax black people).

Furthermore, how would you decide who is entitled to reparations? Not all black people in America are the descendants of slaves. Can't just hand out checks to all of 'em, can you? How would you have people prove their ancestors were slaves?

And I think I should point out that President Johnson was a Democrat who opposed Federally-guaranteed rights for black Americans.

You misunderstood me. I was not making a case for or against reparations, only pointing out that it was the GOP that first proposed them. I only did it because PoliticalChic is always writing what you wrote, it was the Dems that favored slavery back in the day. If they favored slavery, which they did, it seems only fair to point out that the GOP favored reparations (not to mention tax increases, growth of the Federal government, and moving some rights from States to the Fed).

Personally, I think reparations are in order and I think we done at least a some of that by fighting discrimination and providing a leg up to the poor. I don't think cash payments will or should ever fly but providing every citizen decent healthcare, day care, elder care, housing, nutrition, and a quality education would go a long way to make up for our past.

 

[alang1216]

Absurd presentation of the argument:

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Clearly, no Republicans should be responsible for paying reparations. In fact, the debt was paid off by the nation in the mid-nineteenth century.

"At least 620,000 combatants died during the four-year struggle; recent estimates put the total closer to 750,000, or more than 2 percent of the nation’s population at that time. More soldiers died in prison camps alone than America lost during the entire Vietnam War. Perhaps more to the point, some 350,000 Union soldiers died during the conflict, abolitionists in effect if not always in intent. Adjusted for population, that would amount to almost 5 million service deaths today, amounting to a blood sacrifice more than sufficient to redeem whatever moral or intellectual inconsistencies there are to be found in America’s founding documents.

And if that’s not sufficient? Well, then, nothing will be. But for most Americans—and for much of the rest of the world—it is more than enough. "
Blood Redemption

Except I'd wager the vast majority of Union soldiers fought to preserve the Union, not to free the slaves. I agree it would be hard to pay reparations for slavery but what about Jim Crow and redlining?