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Honey, only with gm after they had stated they would then they wouldn’t.It ain’t the free market baby, it’s the heavy hand of the federal government.Henry Ford Health letter on rationing ventilators is for 'worst-case scenario'
Henry Ford Health letter on rationing ventilators is for 'worst-case scenario'
Henry Ford Health officials say a letter circulating on social media outlines some of the health system's emergency response protocols for the "worst-case scenario."www.theoaklandpress.com
"Henry Ford Health officials say a letter circulating on social media outlines some of the health system's emergency response protocols for the "worst-case scenario."
The letter, addressed to patients, families, and the community, describes how patients would be prioritized if the health system runs out of ventilators and ICU beds.
"Because of shortages, we will need to be careful with resources," the letter read. "Patients who have the best chance of getting better are our first priority. Patients will be evaluated for the best plan for care and dying patients will be provided comfort care (to include treatment for pain control and other comfort measures)."
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A lottery for ventilators? Hospitals prepare for ethical conundrums
A lottery for ventilators? Hospitals prepare for ethical conundrums
While some states have ethics guidelines in place, there is no national standard for who gets access to scarce life-saving machinery.www.politico.com
"When a group of doctors, ethicists and religious leaders got together to write New York’s 2015 ethical guidelines for allocating ventilators in a pandemic, they coalesced around a clear principle: Scarce resources should go to the person most likely to be saved. But they had to contemplate another, tougher, situation: What if a number of patients were equally likely to benefit?
In that case, they decided, a lottery might be the fairest option.
The specter of such extreme rationing – a large number of critically ill patients confronting a finite supply of life-saving machinery – was grim but theoretical when debated by the philosophically minded panel. Now, as New York and other states gird for the possibility of a shortage of ventilators, that ethics roadmap could come actually into practice."
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A number of US cities are on the cusp of being Italy. Shortages of all sorts of medical supplies are being experienced around the country.
In Italy, the problem wasn't so much a lack of equipment as it was the speed with which the virus spread. Too many patients too quickly, overwhelming Italy's capacity to handle the escalation.
That is the phase we are entering. As always, Trump ordering GM to manufacture ventilators comes not proactively but reactively in an attempt to make up for lost time. Lost time due to his inaction during the weeks when we had a chance to plan for the inevitable outbreak the experts surrounding him told him was coming.
wanna bet the free market steps up and starts making them???
OH wait,,they already are,,,
Trump uses Defense Production Act to require GM to make ventilators
President Trump on Friday used the Defense Production Act to compel General Motors to produce ventilators to combat the coronavirus after days of hesitating to use the powers in the law.The pr…thehill.com
How does that change anything?
For starters, it isn’t even “the free market” since these ventilators are being purchased with government funds. Second, if the manufacturers and market were so good at providing ventilators, it wouldn’t matter if GM changed their mind, as there would be someone else to fill their place.
Finally, if we had been hit as hard and as quickly as Italy had, we would have been in the exact same position of having to ration care, social medicine or not.
the more you talk the dumber you look,,,
tell me can you show us where people in italy are stepping up and making them???