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Well, that is the unsubstantiated assertion Trumpleton's made. That socialized medicine was responsible for a shortage of supplies when in fact the culprit was the speed at which the virus spread. It overwhelmed their system just as it is overwhelming our's.I thought we were talking about the failures of socialized medicine??
but they are still low, while our system we have dozens of companies and people stepping up to solve the problem,,,Well, that is the unsubstantiated assertion Trumpleton's made. That socialized medicine was responsible for a shortage of supplies when in fact the culprit was the speed at which the virus spread. It overwhelmed their system just as it is overwhelming our's.I thought we were talking about the failures of socialized medicine??
How very unsurprising that a brain dead Trumpleton is delusional as well.look at this thread,,nothing but whining and all we did was show how wrong he and you are...
I hate to break it to you but as far as I know Dyson, Elon Musk and others are not being compelled by anyone.It ain’t the free market baby, it’s the heavy hand of the federal government.Henry Ford Health letter on rationing ventilators is for 'worst-case scenario'
Henry Ford Health letter on rationing ventilators is for 'worst-case scenario'
Henry Ford Health officials say a letter circulating on social media outlines some of the health system's emergency response protocols for the "worst-case scenario."www.theoaklandpress.com
"Henry Ford Health officials say a letter circulating on social media outlines some of the health system's emergency response protocols for the "worst-case scenario."
The letter, addressed to patients, families, and the community, describes how patients would be prioritized if the health system runs out of ventilators and ICU beds.
"Because of shortages, we will need to be careful with resources," the letter read. "Patients who have the best chance of getting better are our first priority. Patients will be evaluated for the best plan for care and dying patients will be provided comfort care (to include treatment for pain control and other comfort measures)."
......................................................................................................................................
A lottery for ventilators? Hospitals prepare for ethical conundrums
A lottery for ventilators? Hospitals prepare for ethical conundrums
While some states have ethics guidelines in place, there is no national standard for who gets access to scarce life-saving machinery.www.politico.com
"When a group of doctors, ethicists and religious leaders got together to write New York’s 2015 ethical guidelines for allocating ventilators in a pandemic, they coalesced around a clear principle: Scarce resources should go to the person most likely to be saved. But they had to contemplate another, tougher, situation: What if a number of patients were equally likely to benefit?
In that case, they decided, a lottery might be the fairest option.
The specter of such extreme rationing – a large number of critically ill patients confronting a finite supply of life-saving machinery – was grim but theoretical when debated by the philosophically minded panel. Now, as New York and other states gird for the possibility of a shortage of ventilators, that ethics roadmap could come actually into practice."
.........................................................................................................................................
A number of US cities are on the cusp of being Italy. Shortages of all sorts of medical supplies are being experienced around the country.
In Italy, the problem wasn't so much a lack of equipment as it was the speed with which the virus spread. Too many patients too quickly, overwhelming Italy's capacity to handle the escalation.
That is the phase we are entering. As always, Trump ordering GM to manufacture ventilators comes not proactively but reactively in an attempt to make up for lost time. Lost time due to his inaction during the weeks when we had a chance to plan for the inevitable outbreak the experts surrounding him told him was coming.
wanna bet the free market steps up and starts making them???
OH wait,,they already are,,,
Trump uses Defense Production Act to require GM to make ventilators
President Trump on Friday used the Defense Production Act to compel General Motors to produce ventilators to combat the coronavirus after days of hesitating to use the powers in the law.The pr…thehill.com
no ignorance on my part cause I have proven our system is better because we step up and solve problems instead of crying like a little bitch with TDS ,,,Once again you display your ignorance of the problem as well as the issue at hand.a few of them are,,,but there are dozens of people and companies stepping up to the plate while you dumb fucks sit back and complain
Tell that to the doctor in Detroit who put out a video of how to put 4 people on the same ventilator.but they are still low, while our system we have dozens of companies and people stepping up to solve the problem,,,
we have a victim mentality???a few of them are,,,but there are dozens of people and companies stepping up to the plate while you dumb fucks sit back and complain,,,It ain’t the free market baby, it’s the heavy hand of the federal government.Henry Ford Health letter on rationing ventilators is for 'worst-case scenario'
Henry Ford Health letter on rationing ventilators is for 'worst-case scenario'
Henry Ford Health officials say a letter circulating on social media outlines some of the health system's emergency response protocols for the "worst-case scenario."
"Henry Ford Health officials say a letter circulating on social media outlines some of the health system's emergency response protocols for the "worst-case scenario."
The letter, addressed to patients, families, and the community, describes how patients would be prioritized if the health system runs out of ventilators and ICU beds.
"Because of shortages, we will need to be careful with resources," the letter read. "Patients who have the best chance of getting better are our first priority. Patients will be evaluated for the best plan for care and dying patients will be provided comfort care (to include treatment for pain control and other comfort measures)."
......................................................................................................................................
A lottery for ventilators? Hospitals prepare for ethical conundrums
A lottery for ventilators? Hospitals prepare for ethical conundrums
While some states have ethics guidelines in place, there is no national standard for who gets access to scarce life-saving machinery.
"When a group of doctors, ethicists and religious leaders got together to write New York’s 2015 ethical guidelines for allocating ventilators in a pandemic, they coalesced around a clear principle: Scarce resources should go to the person most likely to be saved. But they had to contemplate another, tougher, situation: What if a number of patients were equally likely to benefit?
In that case, they decided, a lottery might be the fairest option.
The specter of such extreme rationing – a large number of critically ill patients confronting a finite supply of life-saving machinery – was grim but theoretical when debated by the philosophically minded panel. Now, as New York and other states gird for the possibility of a shortage of ventilators, that ethics roadmap could come actually into practice."
.........................................................................................................................................
A number of US cities are on the cusp of being Italy. Shortages of all sorts of medical supplies are being experienced around the country.
In Italy, the problem wasn't so much a lack of equipment as it was the speed with which the virus spread. Too many patients too quickly, overwhelming Italy's capacity to handle the escalation.
That is the phase we are entering. As always, Trump ordering GM to manufacture ventilators comes not proactively but reactively in an attempt to make up for lost time. Lost time due to his inaction during the weeks when we had a chance to plan for the inevitable outbreak the experts surrounding him told him was coming.
wanna bet the free market steps up and starts making them???
OH wait,,they already are,,,
Trump uses Defense Production Act to require GM to make ventilators
President Trump on Friday used the Defense Production Act to compel General Motors to produce ventilators to combat the coronavirus after days of hesitating to use the powers in the law.The pr…
I blame it on the TDS,,,
Some of you guys have such a victim mentality. No matter what anyone says it’s just “TDS”. It’s pathetic.
now thats funny as fuck,,,
look at this thread,,nothing but whining and all we did was show how wrong he and you are...
you should really seek mental help cause its past pathetic,,,
good ole american ingenuity,,,gotta love a free country,,Tell that to the doctor in Detroit who put out a video of how to put 4 people on the same ventilator.but they are still low, while our system we have dozens of companies and people stepping up to solve the problem,,,
Please explain exactly what it is about a socialized system that you believe caused a shortage of supplies and facilities.
The My Pillow guys is producing masks as well. No word on if he is using Giza cotton.I hate to break it to you but as far as I know Dyson, Elon Musk and others are not being compelled by anyone.It ain’t the free market baby, it’s the heavy hand of the federal government.Henry Ford Health letter on rationing ventilators is for 'worst-case scenario'
Henry Ford Health letter on rationing ventilators is for 'worst-case scenario'
Henry Ford Health officials say a letter circulating on social media outlines some of the health system's emergency response protocols for the "worst-case scenario."
"Henry Ford Health officials say a letter circulating on social media outlines some of the health system's emergency response protocols for the "worst-case scenario."
The letter, addressed to patients, families, and the community, describes how patients would be prioritized if the health system runs out of ventilators and ICU beds.
"Because of shortages, we will need to be careful with resources," the letter read. "Patients who have the best chance of getting better are our first priority. Patients will be evaluated for the best plan for care and dying patients will be provided comfort care (to include treatment for pain control and other comfort measures)."
......................................................................................................................................
A lottery for ventilators? Hospitals prepare for ethical conundrums
A lottery for ventilators? Hospitals prepare for ethical conundrums
While some states have ethics guidelines in place, there is no national standard for who gets access to scarce life-saving machinery.
"When a group of doctors, ethicists and religious leaders got together to write New York’s 2015 ethical guidelines for allocating ventilators in a pandemic, they coalesced around a clear principle: Scarce resources should go to the person most likely to be saved. But they had to contemplate another, tougher, situation: What if a number of patients were equally likely to benefit?
In that case, they decided, a lottery might be the fairest option.
The specter of such extreme rationing – a large number of critically ill patients confronting a finite supply of life-saving machinery – was grim but theoretical when debated by the philosophically minded panel. Now, as New York and other states gird for the possibility of a shortage of ventilators, that ethics roadmap could come actually into practice."
.........................................................................................................................................
A number of US cities are on the cusp of being Italy. Shortages of all sorts of medical supplies are being experienced around the country.
In Italy, the problem wasn't so much a lack of equipment as it was the speed with which the virus spread. Too many patients too quickly, overwhelming Italy's capacity to handle the escalation.
That is the phase we are entering. As always, Trump ordering GM to manufacture ventilators comes not proactively but reactively in an attempt to make up for lost time. Lost time due to his inaction during the weeks when we had a chance to plan for the inevitable outbreak the experts surrounding him told him was coming.
wanna bet the free market steps up and starts making them???
OH wait,,they already are,,,
Trump uses Defense Production Act to require GM to make ventilators
President Trump on Friday used the Defense Production Act to compel General Motors to produce ventilators to combat the coronavirus after days of hesitating to use the powers in the law.The pr…
Other like Hanes are stepping in to manufacture masks.
What is it about our system of healthcare that you believe inspired these companies to ramp up production now that the demand for PPE is so obvious?I hate to break it to you but as far as I know Dyson, Elon Musk and others are not being compelled by anyone.
Other like Hanes are stepping in to manufacture masks.
no you didnt,,,you just confirmed your TDS,,,we have a victim mentality???a few of them are,,,but there are dozens of people and companies stepping up to the plate while you dumb fucks sit back and complain,,,It ain’t the free market baby, it’s the heavy hand of the federal government.Henry Ford Health letter on rationing ventilators is for 'worst-case scenario'
Henry Ford Health letter on rationing ventilators is for 'worst-case scenario'
Henry Ford Health officials say a letter circulating on social media outlines some of the health system's emergency response protocols for the "worst-case scenario."
"Henry Ford Health officials say a letter circulating on social media outlines some of the health system's emergency response protocols for the "worst-case scenario."
The letter, addressed to patients, families, and the community, describes how patients would be prioritized if the health system runs out of ventilators and ICU beds.
"Because of shortages, we will need to be careful with resources," the letter read. "Patients who have the best chance of getting better are our first priority. Patients will be evaluated for the best plan for care and dying patients will be provided comfort care (to include treatment for pain control and other comfort measures)."
......................................................................................................................................
A lottery for ventilators? Hospitals prepare for ethical conundrums
A lottery for ventilators? Hospitals prepare for ethical conundrums
While some states have ethics guidelines in place, there is no national standard for who gets access to scarce life-saving machinery.
"When a group of doctors, ethicists and religious leaders got together to write New York’s 2015 ethical guidelines for allocating ventilators in a pandemic, they coalesced around a clear principle: Scarce resources should go to the person most likely to be saved. But they had to contemplate another, tougher, situation: What if a number of patients were equally likely to benefit?
In that case, they decided, a lottery might be the fairest option.
The specter of such extreme rationing – a large number of critically ill patients confronting a finite supply of life-saving machinery – was grim but theoretical when debated by the philosophically minded panel. Now, as New York and other states gird for the possibility of a shortage of ventilators, that ethics roadmap could come actually into practice."
.........................................................................................................................................
A number of US cities are on the cusp of being Italy. Shortages of all sorts of medical supplies are being experienced around the country.
In Italy, the problem wasn't so much a lack of equipment as it was the speed with which the virus spread. Too many patients too quickly, overwhelming Italy's capacity to handle the escalation.
That is the phase we are entering. As always, Trump ordering GM to manufacture ventilators comes not proactively but reactively in an attempt to make up for lost time. Lost time due to his inaction during the weeks when we had a chance to plan for the inevitable outbreak the experts surrounding him told him was coming.
wanna bet the free market steps up and starts making them???
OH wait,,they already are,,,
Trump uses Defense Production Act to require GM to make ventilators
President Trump on Friday used the Defense Production Act to compel General Motors to produce ventilators to combat the coronavirus after days of hesitating to use the powers in the law.The pr…
I blame it on the TDS,,,
Some of you guys have such a victim mentality. No matter what anyone says it’s just “TDS”. It’s pathetic.
now thats funny as fuck,,,
look at this thread,,nothing but whining and all we did was show how wrong he and you are...
you should really seek mental help cause its past pathetic,,,
I pointed out you were incorrect and you replied with profanities and whining.
I’m not the one that needs help.
because they could,,in your system they would need permission,,,What is it about our system of healthcare that you believe inspired these companies to ramp up production now that the demand for PPE is so obvious?I hate to break it to you but as far as I know Dyson, Elon Musk and others are not being compelled by anyone.
Other like Hanes are stepping in to manufacture masks.
You continue to make unsubstantiated claims pulled from your rectum. Do you think doing so actually helps your cause?good ole american ingenuity,,,gotta love a free country,,
in your socialized system that doctor would go to jail,,,
Honey, only with gm after they had stated they would then they wouldn’t.It ain’t the free market baby, it’s the heavy hand of the federal government.Henry Ford Health letter on rationing ventilators is for 'worst-case scenario'
Henry Ford Health letter on rationing ventilators is for 'worst-case scenario'
Henry Ford Health officials say a letter circulating on social media outlines some of the health system's emergency response protocols for the "worst-case scenario."
"Henry Ford Health officials say a letter circulating on social media outlines some of the health system's emergency response protocols for the "worst-case scenario."
The letter, addressed to patients, families, and the community, describes how patients would be prioritized if the health system runs out of ventilators and ICU beds.
"Because of shortages, we will need to be careful with resources," the letter read. "Patients who have the best chance of getting better are our first priority. Patients will be evaluated for the best plan for care and dying patients will be provided comfort care (to include treatment for pain control and other comfort measures)."
......................................................................................................................................
A lottery for ventilators? Hospitals prepare for ethical conundrums
A lottery for ventilators? Hospitals prepare for ethical conundrums
While some states have ethics guidelines in place, there is no national standard for who gets access to scarce life-saving machinery.
"When a group of doctors, ethicists and religious leaders got together to write New York’s 2015 ethical guidelines for allocating ventilators in a pandemic, they coalesced around a clear principle: Scarce resources should go to the person most likely to be saved. But they had to contemplate another, tougher, situation: What if a number of patients were equally likely to benefit?
In that case, they decided, a lottery might be the fairest option.
The specter of such extreme rationing – a large number of critically ill patients confronting a finite supply of life-saving machinery – was grim but theoretical when debated by the philosophically minded panel. Now, as New York and other states gird for the possibility of a shortage of ventilators, that ethics roadmap could come actually into practice."
.........................................................................................................................................
A number of US cities are on the cusp of being Italy. Shortages of all sorts of medical supplies are being experienced around the country.
In Italy, the problem wasn't so much a lack of equipment as it was the speed with which the virus spread. Too many patients too quickly, overwhelming Italy's capacity to handle the escalation.
That is the phase we are entering. As always, Trump ordering GM to manufacture ventilators comes not proactively but reactively in an attempt to make up for lost time. Lost time due to his inaction during the weeks when we had a chance to plan for the inevitable outbreak the experts surrounding him told him was coming.
wanna bet the free market steps up and starts making them???
OH wait,,they already are,,,
Trump uses Defense Production Act to require GM to make ventilators
President Trump on Friday used the Defense Production Act to compel General Motors to produce ventilators to combat the coronavirus after days of hesitating to use the powers in the law.The pr…
Clearly not good enough, otherwise the law would not have been utilized.I hate to break it to you but as far as I know Dyson, Elon Musk and others are not being compelled by anyone.It ain’t the free market baby, it’s the heavy hand of the federal government.Henry Ford Health letter on rationing ventilators is for 'worst-case scenario'
Henry Ford Health letter on rationing ventilators is for 'worst-case scenario'
Henry Ford Health officials say a letter circulating on social media outlines some of the health system's emergency response protocols for the "worst-case scenario."
"Henry Ford Health officials say a letter circulating on social media outlines some of the health system's emergency response protocols for the "worst-case scenario."
The letter, addressed to patients, families, and the community, describes how patients would be prioritized if the health system runs out of ventilators and ICU beds.
"Because of shortages, we will need to be careful with resources," the letter read. "Patients who have the best chance of getting better are our first priority. Patients will be evaluated for the best plan for care and dying patients will be provided comfort care (to include treatment for pain control and other comfort measures)."
......................................................................................................................................
A lottery for ventilators? Hospitals prepare for ethical conundrums
A lottery for ventilators? Hospitals prepare for ethical conundrums
While some states have ethics guidelines in place, there is no national standard for who gets access to scarce life-saving machinery.
"When a group of doctors, ethicists and religious leaders got together to write New York’s 2015 ethical guidelines for allocating ventilators in a pandemic, they coalesced around a clear principle: Scarce resources should go to the person most likely to be saved. But they had to contemplate another, tougher, situation: What if a number of patients were equally likely to benefit?
In that case, they decided, a lottery might be the fairest option.
The specter of such extreme rationing – a large number of critically ill patients confronting a finite supply of life-saving machinery – was grim but theoretical when debated by the philosophically minded panel. Now, as New York and other states gird for the possibility of a shortage of ventilators, that ethics roadmap could come actually into practice."
.........................................................................................................................................
A number of US cities are on the cusp of being Italy. Shortages of all sorts of medical supplies are being experienced around the country.
In Italy, the problem wasn't so much a lack of equipment as it was the speed with which the virus spread. Too many patients too quickly, overwhelming Italy's capacity to handle the escalation.
That is the phase we are entering. As always, Trump ordering GM to manufacture ventilators comes not proactively but reactively in an attempt to make up for lost time. Lost time due to his inaction during the weeks when we had a chance to plan for the inevitable outbreak the experts surrounding him told him was coming.
wanna bet the free market steps up and starts making them???
OH wait,,they already are,,,
Trump uses Defense Production Act to require GM to make ventilators
President Trump on Friday used the Defense Production Act to compel General Motors to produce ventilators to combat the coronavirus after days of hesitating to use the powers in the law.The pr…
Other like Hanes are stepping in to manufacture masks.
The My Pillow guys is producing masks as well. No word on if he is using Giza cotton.I hate to break it to you but as far as I know Dyson, Elon Musk and others are not being compelled by anyone.It ain’t the free market baby, it’s the heavy hand of the federal government.Henry Ford Health letter on rationing ventilators is for 'worst-case scenario'
Henry Ford Health letter on rationing ventilators is for 'worst-case scenario'
Henry Ford Health officials say a letter circulating on social media outlines some of the health system's emergency response protocols for the "worst-case scenario."
"Henry Ford Health officials say a letter circulating on social media outlines some of the health system's emergency response protocols for the "worst-case scenario."
The letter, addressed to patients, families, and the community, describes how patients would be prioritized if the health system runs out of ventilators and ICU beds.
"Because of shortages, we will need to be careful with resources," the letter read. "Patients who have the best chance of getting better are our first priority. Patients will be evaluated for the best plan for care and dying patients will be provided comfort care (to include treatment for pain control and other comfort measures)."
......................................................................................................................................
A lottery for ventilators? Hospitals prepare for ethical conundrums
A lottery for ventilators? Hospitals prepare for ethical conundrums
While some states have ethics guidelines in place, there is no national standard for who gets access to scarce life-saving machinery.
"When a group of doctors, ethicists and religious leaders got together to write New York’s 2015 ethical guidelines for allocating ventilators in a pandemic, they coalesced around a clear principle: Scarce resources should go to the person most likely to be saved. But they had to contemplate another, tougher, situation: What if a number of patients were equally likely to benefit?
In that case, they decided, a lottery might be the fairest option.
The specter of such extreme rationing – a large number of critically ill patients confronting a finite supply of life-saving machinery – was grim but theoretical when debated by the philosophically minded panel. Now, as New York and other states gird for the possibility of a shortage of ventilators, that ethics roadmap could come actually into practice."
.........................................................................................................................................
A number of US cities are on the cusp of being Italy. Shortages of all sorts of medical supplies are being experienced around the country.
In Italy, the problem wasn't so much a lack of equipment as it was the speed with which the virus spread. Too many patients too quickly, overwhelming Italy's capacity to handle the escalation.
That is the phase we are entering. As always, Trump ordering GM to manufacture ventilators comes not proactively but reactively in an attempt to make up for lost time. Lost time due to his inaction during the weeks when we had a chance to plan for the inevitable outbreak the experts surrounding him told him was coming.
wanna bet the free market steps up and starts making them???
OH wait,,they already are,,,
Trump uses Defense Production Act to require GM to make ventilators
President Trump on Friday used the Defense Production Act to compel General Motors to produce ventilators to combat the coronavirus after days of hesitating to use the powers in the law.The pr…
Other like Hanes are stepping in to manufacture masks.
So Trump isn’t using a federal law to force a private company to produce ventilators?no you didnt,,,you just confirmed your TDS,,,we have a victim mentality???a few of them are,,,but there are dozens of people and companies stepping up to the plate while you dumb fucks sit back and complain,,,It ain’t the free market baby, it’s the heavy hand of the federal government.Henry Ford Health letter on rationing ventilators is for 'worst-case scenario'
Henry Ford Health letter on rationing ventilators is for 'worst-case scenario'
Henry Ford Health officials say a letter circulating on social media outlines some of the health system's emergency response protocols for the "worst-case scenario."
"Henry Ford Health officials say a letter circulating on social media outlines some of the health system's emergency response protocols for the "worst-case scenario."
The letter, addressed to patients, families, and the community, describes how patients would be prioritized if the health system runs out of ventilators and ICU beds.
"Because of shortages, we will need to be careful with resources," the letter read. "Patients who have the best chance of getting better are our first priority. Patients will be evaluated for the best plan for care and dying patients will be provided comfort care (to include treatment for pain control and other comfort measures)."
......................................................................................................................................
A lottery for ventilators? Hospitals prepare for ethical conundrums
A lottery for ventilators? Hospitals prepare for ethical conundrums
While some states have ethics guidelines in place, there is no national standard for who gets access to scarce life-saving machinery.
"When a group of doctors, ethicists and religious leaders got together to write New York’s 2015 ethical guidelines for allocating ventilators in a pandemic, they coalesced around a clear principle: Scarce resources should go to the person most likely to be saved. But they had to contemplate another, tougher, situation: What if a number of patients were equally likely to benefit?
In that case, they decided, a lottery might be the fairest option.
The specter of such extreme rationing – a large number of critically ill patients confronting a finite supply of life-saving machinery – was grim but theoretical when debated by the philosophically minded panel. Now, as New York and other states gird for the possibility of a shortage of ventilators, that ethics roadmap could come actually into practice."
.........................................................................................................................................
A number of US cities are on the cusp of being Italy. Shortages of all sorts of medical supplies are being experienced around the country.
In Italy, the problem wasn't so much a lack of equipment as it was the speed with which the virus spread. Too many patients too quickly, overwhelming Italy's capacity to handle the escalation.
That is the phase we are entering. As always, Trump ordering GM to manufacture ventilators comes not proactively but reactively in an attempt to make up for lost time. Lost time due to his inaction during the weeks when we had a chance to plan for the inevitable outbreak the experts surrounding him told him was coming.
wanna bet the free market steps up and starts making them???
OH wait,,they already are,,,
Trump uses Defense Production Act to require GM to make ventilators
President Trump on Friday used the Defense Production Act to compel General Motors to produce ventilators to combat the coronavirus after days of hesitating to use the powers in the law.The pr…
I blame it on the TDS,,,
Some of you guys have such a victim mentality. No matter what anyone says it’s just “TDS”. It’s pathetic.
now thats funny as fuck,,,
look at this thread,,nothing but whining and all we did was show how wrong he and you are...
you should really seek mental help cause its past pathetic,,,
I pointed out you were incorrect and you replied with profanities and whining.
I’m not the one that needs help.
