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IM2 I've seriously never seen such an impressive victim complex in my entire life. Things aren't perfect for blacks, or gays, or women or anybody, but we all have to cope with what the world is and make the best of our lives. In the end people have to save themselves, and that includes black people.
 
Black and white racists are idiots?

What is black racism and why does it happen?

Are you going to justify racist black people?

Are you going to answer the question?

What is black racism and why does it happen?

You are correct in a certain way. There really are no groups that are active in promoting hate against whites. Whites are really not targeted . In the same sense, it takes a certain type of imbecile to join the KKK. Their beliefs are absurd, and IMHO border on brainwashing and targeting weak people to join a criminal gang. It’s similar to people that are recruited for a street gang, or cult. But there is also a culture of people that have been raised from birth, and educated with this ignorance. It’s their identity. I was not raised around these people, and don’t know any personally. They have been trained to hate, the same way Hitler indoctrinated the German society to hate Jews and blacks. This was also made into law, so it would serve to justify racism. I think the pushback you get to an extent, is that no one I know would ever want to be labeled a supremest because they are white. I would be livid, and very verbal about any accusation of that. With that being said, we are all biased in certain ways and see certain stereotypes that have been promoted throughout our lives. When white people encounter blacks that don’t want to associate with them, or are openly unfriendly, they label this as black racism. I think this happens with blacks,because of their past experiences and personal bias or stereotypes about whites. I’m sure they have experienced racism much more, and from an early age. They learn from an early start, that they are treated a certain way because of the color of their skin. You can’t hide it, even if you wanted to. In Nazi Germany, Jews were identified and labeled with a tattoo or arm band. They could at times deny their identity, and their lives depended on it. This obviously didn’t work out favorably in the short or long run.


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This is a fair assessment, but some of the people here are white supremacists and you don't necessarily have to be a member of a white supremacist group to be a racist. The accusation of racism is a serious charge and in my view you must have evidence of racism before making that claim. Unfortunately many people here have provided such evidence.

Now when you talk about us as black people, trying to judge how we see whites by the standards used to define bias misses the fact that white racial bias is developed from a false premise. Black racial bias against whites is based on a consistent pattern of white behavior over a minimum time frame of 243 years. This pattern of behavior has created a mistrust of white people in some people of color.

In order for things to change whites, must begin taking a holistic look at their behavior instead of always pointing fingers at everyone else or getting angry because white racism is being pointed out.
When you say us as black people. are you the spokesperson for what blacks think? Or only black Americans?
 
What is black racism and why does it happen?

Are you going to justify racist black people?

Are you going to answer the question?

What is black racism and why does it happen?

You are correct in a certain way. There really are no groups that are active in promoting hate against whites. Whites are really not targeted . In the same sense, it takes a certain type of imbecile to join the KKK. Their beliefs are absurd, and IMHO border on brainwashing and targeting weak people to join a criminal gang. It’s similar to people that are recruited for a street gang, or cult. But there is also a culture of people that have been raised from birth, and educated with this ignorance. It’s their identity. I was not raised around these people, and don’t know any personally. They have been trained to hate, the same way Hitler indoctrinated the German society to hate Jews and blacks. This was also made into law, so it would serve to justify racism. I think the pushback you get to an extent, is that no one I know would ever want to be labeled a supremest because they are white. I would be livid, and very verbal about any accusation of that. With that being said, we are all biased in certain ways and see certain stereotypes that have been promoted throughout our lives. When white people encounter blacks that don’t want to associate with them, or are openly unfriendly, they label this as black racism. I think this happens with blacks,because of their past experiences and personal bias or stereotypes about whites. I’m sure they have experienced racism much more, and from an early age. They learn from an early start, that they are treated a certain way because of the color of their skin. You can’t hide it, even if you wanted to. In Nazi Germany, Jews were identified and labeled with a tattoo or arm band. They could at times deny their identity, and their lives depended on it. This obviously didn’t work out favorably in the short or long run.


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This is a fair assessment, but some of the people here are white supremacists and you don't necessarily have to be a member of a white supremacist group to be a racist. The accusation of racism is a serious charge and in my view you must have evidence of racism before making that claim. Unfortunately many people here have provided such evidence.

Now when you talk about us as black people, trying to judge how we see whites by the standards used to define bias misses the fact that white racial bias is developed from a false premise. Black racial bias against whites is based on a consistent pattern of white behavior over a minimum time frame of 243 years. This pattern of behavior has created a mistrust of white people in some people of color.

In order for things to change whites, must begin taking a holistic look at their behavior instead of always pointing fingers at everyone else or getting angry because white racism is being pointed out.
When you say us as black people. are you the spokesperson for what blacks think? Or only black Americans?

So only black people can understand black people according to your explanation. You are also grouping all white people together. Something that you have an issue with, when all black people are grouped together. You also don’t include educational levels in people’s ability to understand concepts or life history. I’m not interested enough to be prejudice. If people are civil, I’m good. If they don’t want to interact with me, so be it. You also haven’t qualified yourself to be touting yourself as an expert. Racism such as the KKK is criminal and extreme. Other than that people can believe what they want IMO, as long as they keep it to themselves.


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Are you going to justify racist black people?

Are you going to answer the question?

What is black racism and why does it happen?

You are correct in a certain way. There really are no groups that are active in promoting hate against whites. Whites are really not targeted . In the same sense, it takes a certain type of imbecile to join the KKK. Their beliefs are absurd, and IMHO border on brainwashing and targeting weak people to join a criminal gang. It’s similar to people that are recruited for a street gang, or cult. But there is also a culture of people that have been raised from birth, and educated with this ignorance. It’s their identity. I was not raised around these people, and don’t know any personally. They have been trained to hate, the same way Hitler indoctrinated the German society to hate Jews and blacks. This was also made into law, so it would serve to justify racism. I think the pushback you get to an extent, is that no one I know would ever want to be labeled a supremest because they are white. I would be livid, and very verbal about any accusation of that. With that being said, we are all biased in certain ways and see certain stereotypes that have been promoted throughout our lives. When white people encounter blacks that don’t want to associate with them, or are openly unfriendly, they label this as black racism. I think this happens with blacks,because of their past experiences and personal bias or stereotypes about whites. I’m sure they have experienced racism much more, and from an early age. They learn from an early start, that they are treated a certain way because of the color of their skin. You can’t hide it, even if you wanted to. In Nazi Germany, Jews were identified and labeled with a tattoo or arm band. They could at times deny their identity, and their lives depended on it. This obviously didn’t work out favorably in the short or long run.


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This is a fair assessment, but some of the people here are white supremacists and you don't necessarily have to be a member of a white supremacist group to be a racist. The accusation of racism is a serious charge and in my view you must have evidence of racism before making that claim. Unfortunately many people here have provided such evidence.

Now when you talk about us as black people, trying to judge how we see whites by the standards used to define bias misses the fact that white racial bias is developed from a false premise. Black racial bias against whites is based on a consistent pattern of white behavior over a minimum time frame of 243 years. This pattern of behavior has created a mistrust of white people in some people of color.

In order for things to change whites, must begin taking a holistic look at their behavior instead of always pointing fingers at everyone else or getting angry because white racism is being pointed out.
When you say us as black people. are you the spokesperson for what blacks think? Or only black Americans?

So only black people can understand black people according to your explanation. You are also grouping all white people together. Something that you have an issue with, when all black people are grouped together. You also don’t include educational levels in people’s ability to understand concepts or life history. I’m not interested enough to be prejudice. If people are civil, I’m good. If they don’t want to interact with me, so be it. You also haven’t qualified yourself to be touting yourself as an expert. Racism such as the KKK is criminal and extreme. Other than that people can believe what they want IMO, as long as they keep it to themselves.


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If you have not gone through what we have, it's kinda hard for you to understand how we feel. I am not lumping all whites into anything and it gets old when whites try this in these discussions. We are talking about a macro level problem so we will discuss this at the macro level. I am an expert on being black because I have 58 years of experience being black. You don't have to like what I said, but I have lived my whole life black and have interacted and discussed things with more black people than you ever will. I have experienced how blacks get treated, and no matter how much you educate yourself, you haven't. Last whites like yourself can shove that do you speak for all blacks shit. Because you are here trying to tell me, a black man, about black people like you can speak for us. And just because I have accurately stated the reasons why blacks see things as they do without blaming ourselves for problems we did not create as well as pointing out that whites do have the prime responsibility to fix the problems they created, you want to question if I speak for all blacks.

That's not going to work. I stand by what I say. And if you want to see a positive change in race relations that's what you will do. Because no matter how much you say racism is illegal, it still exists. And when over 1/3 of whites in America according to pew research, hold white supremacist views, it is NOT so extreme. You don't face the racism, stop trying to tell blacks how it isn't such a big thing. Learn to listen because you're damn sure no expert.
 
What is black racism and why does it happen?

Are you going to justify racist black people?

Are you going to answer the question?

What is black racism and why does it happen?

You are correct in a certain way. There really are no groups that are active in promoting hate against whites. Whites are really not targeted . In the same sense, it takes a certain type of imbecile to join the KKK. Their beliefs are absurd, and IMHO border on brainwashing and targeting weak people to join a criminal gang. It’s similar to people that are recruited for a street gang, or cult. But there is also a culture of people that have been raised from birth, and educated with this ignorance. It’s their identity. I was not raised around these people, and don’t know any personally. They have been trained to hate, the same way Hitler indoctrinated the German society to hate Jews and blacks. This was also made into law, so it would serve to justify racism. I think the pushback you get to an extent, is that no one I know would ever want to be labeled a supremest because they are white. I would be livid, and very verbal about any accusation of that. With that being said, we are all biased in certain ways and see certain stereotypes that have been promoted throughout our lives. When white people encounter blacks that don’t want to associate with them, or are openly unfriendly, they label this as black racism. I think this happens with blacks,because of their past experiences and personal bias or stereotypes about whites. I’m sure they have experienced racism much more, and from an early age. They learn from an early start, that they are treated a certain way because of the color of their skin. You can’t hide it, even if you wanted to. In Nazi Germany, Jews were identified and labeled with a tattoo or arm band. They could at times deny their identity, and their lives depended on it. This obviously didn’t work out favorably in the short or long run.


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This is a fair assessment, but some of the people here are white supremacists and you don't necessarily have to be a member of a white supremacist group to be a racist. The accusation of racism is a serious charge and in my view you must have evidence of racism before making that claim. Unfortunately many people here have provided such evidence.

Now when you talk about us as black people, trying to judge how we see whites by the standards used to define bias misses the fact that white racial bias is developed from a false premise. Black racial bias against whites is based on a consistent pattern of white behavior over a minimum time frame of 243 years. This pattern of behavior has created a mistrust of white people in some people of color.

In order for things to change whites, must begin taking a holistic look at their behavior instead of always pointing fingers at everyone else or getting angry because white racism is being pointed out.
When you say us as black people. are you the spokesperson for what blacks think? Or only black Americans?

Now when you talk about us as black people, trying to judge how we see whites by the standards used to define bias misses the fact that white racial bias is developed from a false premise. Black racial bias against whites is based on a consistent pattern of white behavior over a minimum time frame of 243 years. This pattern of behavior has created a mistrust of white people in some people of color.

In order for things to change whites, must begin taking a holistic look at their behavior instead of always pointing fingers at everyone else or getting angry because white racism is being pointed out.
 
IM2 I've seriously never seen such an impressive victim complex in my entire life. Things aren't perfect for blacks, or gays, or women or anybody, but we all have to cope with what the world is and make the best of our lives. In the end people have to save themselves, and that includes black people.

Victims don't fight the system. Now be quiet.
 
Victims don't fight the system.

You're not fighting the system. You're complaining on an internet forum.
You don't know what I do in my life. And the system is maintained by people who use these forums. Besides whites like you need to shut the fuck up about victimhood. All you bitches do is play victim. The white race is victims of everything according to those like you. We still do face racism coming from trifling whites like you. And low on the totem pole, ignorant, uneducated white losers like you take your ass fucking from rich whites who tell your stupid asses we are taking from you, that our complaints are based on eternal victimhood and you're stupid enough to repeat that.
 
Reality. State of Hate: Increase of hate incidents in the US

Most of it driven by hate-filled race-baiters who post 24,000 myopically polarized and one-sided racist comments and threads all in just 4 years! That is 16 racially-bitter spleen ventings a day! If that is not the sign of a SICK MIND, I don't know what is. :1peleas:
 
Victims don't fight the system.

You're not fighting the system. You're complaining on an internet forum.
You don't know what I do in my life. And the system is maintained by people who use these forums. Besides whites like you need to shut the fuck up about victimhood. All you bitches do is play victim. The white race is victims of everything according to those like you. We still do face racism coming from trifling whites like you. And low on the totem pole, ignorant, uneducated white losers like you take your ass fucking from rich whites who tell your stupid asses we are taking from you, that our complaints are based on eternal victimhood and you're stupid enough to repeat that.

I am mixed, but mostly hispanic. You don't know anything about me. You're awfully hostile for somebody that's not wrong.
 
Reality. State of Hate: Increase of hate incidents in the US

Most of it driven by hate-filled race-baiters who post 24,000 myopically polarized and one-sided racist comments and threads all in just 4 years! That is 16 racially-bitter spleen ventings a day! If that is not the sign of a SICK MIND, I don't know what is. :1peleas:

No, they are driven by white racists like you who post one sided racist crap for years then demand those you've lived your life dissing say something nice about whites. You suffer from psychosis. That is a defined mental disorder.
 
Victims don't fight the system.

You're not fighting the system. You're complaining on an internet forum.
You don't know what I do in my life. And the system is maintained by people who use these forums. Besides whites like you need to shut the fuck up about victimhood. All you bitches do is play victim. The white race is victims of everything according to those like you. We still do face racism coming from trifling whites like you. And low on the totem pole, ignorant, uneducated white losers like you take your ass fucking from rich whites who tell your stupid asses we are taking from you, that our complaints are based on eternal victimhood and you're stupid enough to repeat that.

I am mixed, but mostly hispanic. You don't know anything about me. You're awfully hostile for somebody that's not wrong.

So? If I am hostile I have right to be.
 
Black and white racists are idiots?

What is black racism and why does it happen?

Whatever type of racism you are asking about IM2
it happens where there is UNFORGIVENESS of past issues
and these get projected forward.

Yes, you can blame it on "white racism" but where
people forgive this, the cycle can be broken instead of retribution.

FORGIVENESS = ending and healing the wounds of racism
so problems can be corrected without the hostility attached

UNFORGIVENESS = continuing the projecting of blame
back and forth which you trace back to white racism.
No matter what the source, unforgiveness enables racism to continue.
 
Black and white racists are idiots?

What is black racism and why does it happen?

Whatever type of racism you are asking about IM2
it happens where there is UNFORGIVENESS of past issues
and these get projected forward.

Yes, you can blame it on "white racism" but where
people forgive this, the cycle can be broken instead of retribution.

FORGIVENESS = ending and healing the wounds of racism
so problems can be corrected without the hostility attached

UNFORGIVENESS = continuing the projecting of blame
back and forth which you trace back to white racism.
No matter what the source, unforgiveness enables racism to continue.

No Emily it doesn't. Number 1, the racism is not in the past. Number 2, it has been forgiven. Number 3, Jesus forgives but demands us every day to stop sinning. Whites who practice racism need to stop doing that. You sit on your butt telling me to forgive when you should be telling these racists to stop committing the sin.

Start doing that.
 
Black and white racists are idiots?

What is black racism and why does it happen?

Whatever type of racism you are asking about IM2
it happens where there is UNFORGIVENESS of past issues
and these get projected forward.

Yes, you can blame it on "white racism" but where
people forgive this, the cycle can be broken instead of retribution.

FORGIVENESS = ending and healing the wounds of racism
so problems can be corrected without the hostility attached

UNFORGIVENESS = continuing the projecting of blame
back and forth which you trace back to white racism.
No matter what the source, unforgiveness enables racism to continue.

No Emily it doesn't. Number 1, the racism is not in the past. Number 2, it has been forgiven. Number 3, Jesus forgives but demands us every day to stop sinning. Whites who practice racism need to stop doing that. You sit on your butt telling me to forgive when you should be telling these racists to stop committing the sin.

Start doing that.

IM2

1. Yes and Yes, the racism from the past
is what projects and repeats in the present and future.

2. When it is forgiven, it stops.
If it is still in the present, that means it's
still projecting.

3. Agreed, and the first step is to forgive
so we stop repeating the same sins

As for
A. "Whites who practice racism need to stop doing that."
Agree

B. "You sit on your butt telling me to forgive when you should be telling these racists to stop committing the sin."
When I talk with "these racists" I tell them the same thing.
When I talk with you I tell you the same thing.

I ask people on ALL SIDES to stop the racist projection.

If projection is still happening, that means the issues
INTERNALLY that are not fully forgiven and resolved
are being PROJECTED EXTERNALLY which is the
mechanism manifesting as racism - it's taking the
internalized issues and projecting them on a collective
group especially targeting individuals by race
who are seen as REPRESENTING THAT GROUP.

Now IM2 I'm relieved to hear that you believe it is already forgiven.
I agree and pray for that forgiveness to be expanded upon so that
ALL THINGS CAN BE CORRECTED in that open environment.

I asked the Pastor Sunday and his team to pray for you.
His message he gave was that:
* NOBODY can take your joy that is given by God
* God's blessings are too great, that nothing and nobody can demean them
* Everything you need is already in the house

Let us continue praying and working in agreement
that all these wrongs/sins be forgiven so they can all be corrected.

Projection as racism is one sign that there are still
unforgiven unresolved issues that haven't been handed over
to God but are still circulated back and forth blamed on others.
 
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Negros are out of control in the cities in the USA. Ship them the fuck back to the Congo and assorted West African shitholes where they can reach their full potential by cutting down trees if they are the most intelligent and skilled amongst them.

 
Black and white racists are idiots?

What is black racism and why does it happen?

Racism knows no colors and to excuse any form of it because the other race does it is not an excuse but you have tried many times to excuse it.

Fact is Blacks can be bigoted, prejudice and even downright racist and not just to Whites but to Hispanics and Asians but you will deny this because to you only White Society can be racist.
 
Black and white racists are idiots?

What is black racism and why does it happen?

Racism knows no colors and to excuse any form of it because the other race does it is not an excuse but you have tried many times to excuse it.

Fact is Blacks can be bigoted, prejudice and even downright racist and not just to Whites but to Hispanics and Asians but you will deny this because to you only White Society can be racist.

That's fine and true from the perspective you are taking on this Bruce_T_Laney

IM2 made it perfectly clear he only speaks from the perspective he established for
his threads and only accepts input from those approaching the discussion from there.

What you are saying requires a different discussion.
When talking with IM2 on threads he starts,
it has to be within that context and set definitions.
 
We are talking about reality in this thread. We are not talking about things some whites have come to believe in order to deny problems they created for people of color. Talking about these problems is not racism, and providing examples of how past policies impact us today is not unforgiveness. There is no other issue besides race where evaluation of past events and policies are eschewed. The same people telling me about how the past is wrong to bring up, refer to past beliefs held by men long dead in reference to governance. When does this double standard end?

What We Get Wrong About Closing the Racial Wealth Gap
By William Darity Jr., Darrick Hamilton, Mark Paul, Alan Aja, Anne Price, Antonio Moore, and Caterina Chiopris
Samuel DuBois Cook Center on Social Equity
Insight Center for Community Economic Development
April 2018


The racial wealth gap is large and shows no signs of closing. Recent data from the Survey of Income and Program Participation (2014) shows that black households hold less than seven cents on the dollar compared to white households.1 The white household living near the poverty line typically has about $18,000 in wealth, while black households in similar economic straits typically have a median wealth near zero. This means, in turn, that many black families have a negative net worth. (Hamilton et al. 2015).

At the other end of America’s economic spectrum, black households constitute less than 2 percent of those in the top one percent of the nation’s wealth distribution; white households constitute more than 96 percent of the wealthiest Americans. Moreover, even among the nation’s wealthiest households, extreme differences persist on the basis of race:

The 99th percentile black family is worth a mere $1,574,000 while the 99th percentile white family is worth over 12 million dollars. This means over 870,000 white families have a net worth above 12 million dollars, while, out of the 20 million black families in America, fewer than 380,000 are even worth a single million dollars. By comparison, over 13 million of the total 85 million white families are millionaires or better (Moore and Bruenig 2017).

Blacks, while constituting just under thirteen percent of the nation’s population, collectively own less than three percent of the nation’s total wealth (Moore 2015).

(this per capita stat never gets mentioned}


Patently, wealth is far more unequally distributed than income. While income primarily is earned in the labor market, wealth is built primarily by the transfer of resources across generations, locking-in the deep divides we observe across racial groups (Shapiro 2004, Gittleman and Wolff 2004, Hamilton and Darity 2010).

In this report, we address ten commonly held myths about the racial wealth gap in the United States. We contend that a number of ideas frequently touted as “solutions” will not make headway in reducing black - white wealth disparities. These convention al ideas include greater educational attainment, harder work, better financial decisions, and other changes in habits and practices on the part of blacks . While these steps are not necessarily undesirable, they are wholly inadequate to bridge the racial ch asm in wealth.

These myths support a point of view that identifies dysfunctional black behaviors as the basic cause of persistent racial inequality, including the black-white wealth disparity, in the United States. We systematically demonstrate here that a narrative that places the onus of the racial wealth gap on black defectiveness is false in all of its permutations.

In what follows, we come to grips with the ten most important, widely held myths about closing the racial wealth gap.

Myth 1: Greater educational attainment or more work effort on the part of blacks will close the racial wealth gap

A common-sense hypothesis ascribes disparities in wealth mainly to differences in the level of education. A college degree is associated with higher earnings and more stable employment, even in times of economic crisis (Day and Newburger, 2002; Chung, Davies, and Fitzgerald, 2010). Families with college-educated heads appear to accumulate more wealth than families with heads with lower levels of education over a lifetime. Therefore, higher education often has been touted as the “great equalizer”, as a mechanism to reduce the wealth gap between whites and blacks. According to this logic, we would expect blacks and whites with similar levels of education to display comparable levels of wealth.

At every level of educational attainment, the median wealth among black families is substantially lower than white families. White households with a bachelor ’s degree or post graduate education (such as with a Ph.D., MD, and JD) are more than three times as wealthy as black households with the same degree attainment.
Moreover, on average, a black h ousehold with a college - educated head ha s less wealth than a white family whose head did not even obtain a high school diploma. It takes a postgraduate education for a black family to have comparable levels of wealth to a white household with some college education or an associate degree (Hamilton et al. 2015 and Meschede et al. (2017), who use the Panel Study of Income Dynamics).

Furthermore, low family wealth can have an adverse effect on the next generation’s educational attainment. Family wealth is a predictor of both college attendance and college completion (Meschede et al. 2017). Black students are more likely to take on student loans and accumulate student loan debt, and they are more likely than white students to drop-out of a university because of financial concerns. Ironically, their wealth position could deteriorate because of their intense motivation to pursue higher education (Shapiro et al 2013).

Another commonly held misconception is that black families have a cultural predisposition to under-value education (Loury 1985, Ogbu 1978). Black parents are alleged to invest insufficiently in their children’s education. However, the best evidence indicates that black families, controlling for household type and socioeconomic status, tend to be more supportive than white families of their children’s education through direct financial support. Black parents who provide some support for their children’s hig her education h ave two thirds of the median net worth of white parents who provide no support for their children’s higher education . (Nam et al., 2015). For given levels of household income, parental educational attainment, and/or parental occupational status, black youth also get more years of schooling and acquire more credentials than white youth whose parents have a similar status (Mason 1997, Mangino 2010).

While education does not appear to be the great equalizer, it could be argued, alternatively, that hard work can close the wealth gap. Since blacks face a higher unemployment rate than whites at every level of education (Jones and Schmitt, 2014), the difference in wealth ultimately could be due to the difference in employment status. If that were the case, we would observe similar levels of wealth for blacks and whites with similar employment statuses.

As one would expect, the median household wealth is higher for employed families than for unemployed families in both races. However, white households with an employed head have more than ten times higher wealth than similar black households. Furthermore, white households with an unemployed head have a higher net worth than black households with a head who is working full time.

In addition, higher levels of household income are not associated with significant reductions in the racial wealth gap. Figure 3 shows how black families have much lower wealth than white families even when they have comparable earnings. In particular, black households in the lowest 20 percent of the income distribution essentially have zero net worth, while the poorest white families have on average $15,000 - $18,000 in net worth. Even belonging to the highest quintile does not make black families as wealthy as whites: their median wealth is approximately half of that of white families in the same income quintile.

The pattern is evident: studying hard and working hard clearly is not enough for black families to make up for their marginalized financial position.

Myth 2 on Thursday.

What We Get Wrong About Closing The Racial Wealth Gap
 
Black and white racists are idiots?

What is black racism and why does it happen?

Racism knows no colors and to excuse any form of it because the other race does it is not an excuse but you have tried many times to excuse it.

Fact is Blacks can be bigoted, prejudice and even downright racist and not just to Whites but to Hispanics and Asians but you will deny this because to you only White Society can be racist.

That's fine and true from the perspective you are taking on this Bruce_T_Laney

IM2 made it perfectly clear he only speaks from the perspective he established for
his threads and only accepts input from those approaching the discussion from there.

What you are saying requires a different discussion.
When talking with IM2 on threads he starts,
it has to be within that context and set definitions.

Good for him but he has proven over and over he can not do what he want.

In the end I have never denied the reality of racism within the white society nor do I condone it.

I just ended a friendship with someone that used a racist term to describe my adopted sister husband and my actual sister husband.

Their excuse was that is how they talk, well I do not accept it at all.

The reality violence and hate crime in America see rises and falls.

As a White person and somewhat violent person I know what goes on but I never blame my plight on other groups or races.

How do we combat the problems we face?

Now what I will not condone is being lecture by the OP about how I am at fault for what some white person did to him or her because I can not control the actions of others.

If it was an attack on the person purely based on race I might whip the White guy ass if I know I can because let be factual it time to end the damn stupidity.

I believe we as a society are too fracture and focus on the finger pointing and not working for solutions.

There is no perfect answer but the Op'er is the last person I will take advice from when it come to race crime and race relations...
 

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