The "warmers" here are not challenging the surface air pressure data, which shows no increase = Co2 Fraud completely busted on "warming/ice melt"

[EMH]

All other climate related topics are noise.

The Co2 FRAUD needs to explain Surface Air Pressure... in front of a jury under oath.

 

[EMH]

BUMP

They cannot answer this.

The surface air pressure proves


1. Earth is not warming
2. Earth is not experiencing an ongoing net ice melt


So why are we out $29 trillion over a complete and total fraud???


THIS!!!

The union of Zionist Fascism and Left Wing Hate Hoaxing Homos

 

[Dagosa]

It is over. It was always over. Two days ago this topic started, and documented that Earth's surface air pressure shows a flat line slightly ticking down.

Co2 Fraud hasn't fudged all data, surface air pressure for one....

The Co2 FRAUD is run by very lame "climate scientists" who flat out aren't very good at science at all. They are good at lying, fudging data, and censoring truth. But there is data, and it isn't friendly to the Co2 FRAUD, which is why the Co2 FRAUD fudges everything they think they need to...

www.usmessageboard.com

The warmers have all read it and have yet to even challenge it... because they can't. It isn't a speculation or a theory, this is a COMPLETE REFUTATION.


The warmers argue that


1. Earth temperature is rising. If so, that would push Surface Air Pressure higher

2. There is an ongoing net ice melt. If so, that would release a huge amount of compressed gas trapped in glacier ice, and in doing so would increase surface air pressure.


There is no dispute that we are taking hydrocarbons from the ground and burning, creating hydrocarbon + O2 = Co2 and H2O. The main issue there is Co2, and Co2 has increased in the atmosphere, and that would in theory increase surface air pressure too. But that is 1% of 1% of Earth's atmosphere, 0.0001 aka tiny and likely statistically insignificant. The equation for Co2 also doesn't increase the number of gas molecules, but rather increases the mass of each in the air from O2 to Co2. The excess H2O naturally joins the rest and should very slightly increase ocean levels. But the bias is still increasing atmospheric mass.


What would cause Surface Air Pressure to drop?

1. an INCREASE in Earth ice
2. a drop in temperature


So how can the Co2 Fraud explain how Earth is warming, ice is melting, but Surface Air Pressure is slightly down...???

This gets funny....

Well, since "we know temperatures are rising" then the ice must be increasing to counter that .... so Warming = increasing ice = LOL!!!!

And if "we know the ice is melting" then a massive temperature drop must be happening to counter the increase in atmospheric gas from the "melting glaicers" ... Cooling is melting glaciers now...

TOO FUNNY!!!

The conflict over Antarctic ice growth has been at the center of the Co2 Fraud all along. The Co2 Fraud cannot survive a conclusion that 90% of Earth ice on land mass Antarctica has been growing every year since Algore first originated the hoax. It knows it. But there is NO WAY TO EXPLAIN a flat to down surface air pressure reading without Antarctic ice growth. That's why the first thread got no response from the warmers here.


"When Physical Laws do not apply, there is no reality" = Mr. Spock

The Physical Laws state that if Earth is warming and ice is melting SURFACE AIR PRESSURE SHOULD BE RISING, but it isn't. Hence, there is "no reality" to the Co2 Fraud and there never was any.




We went to court in 2007.

Court Identifies Eleven Inaccuracies in Al Gore’s ‘An Inconvenient Truth’

Here's something American media are virtually guaranteed to not report: a British court has determined that Al Gore's schlockumentary "An Inconvenient Truth" contains at least eleven material falsehoods. It seems a safe bet Matt Lauer and Diane Sawyer won't be discussing this Tuesday morning...

www.newsbusters.org

"The film suggests that the Antarctic ice covering is melting, the evidence was that it is in fact increasing."
NASA put this raw data out

Study: Mass gains of Antarctic ice sheet greater than losses - NASA Science

A new NASA study says that an increase in Antarctic snow accumulation that began 10,000 years ago is currently adding enough ice to the continent to outweigh the increased losses from its thinning glaciers.

science.nasa.gov

The Antarctic ice sheet showed a net gain of 112 billion tons of ice a year from 1992 to 2001. That net gain slowed to 82 billion tons of ice per year between 2003 and 2008.




Bottom line - the Surface Air Pressure reading proves the Co2 Fraud's narrative of melting ice and warming is 100% fraud. Antarctic ice is increasing, which is why the oceans are not rising and why Earth is not warming.

Surface air pressure ? Is that the new clown show claim now ? Why are you making up shit ? Post your evidence that Antarctic ice is increasing….you have none…no where.

 

[EMH]

Surface air pressure ? Is that the new clown show claim now ? Why are you making up shit ? Post your evidence that Antarctic ice is increasing….you have none…no where.

LOL!!!

Your side claims

Earth is warming
Earth is experiencing an ongoing net ice melt

and we are burning hydrocarbons


ALL of that should be INCREASING SURFACE AIR PRESSURE, but that is NOT HAPPENING.

YOUR SIDE NEEDS TO EXPLAIN WHY....

 

[ReinyDays]

LOL!!!

Your side claims

Earth is warming
Earth is experiencing an ongoing net ice melt

and we are burning hydrocarbons


ALL of that should be INCREASING SURFACE AIR PRESSURE, but that is NOT HAPPENING.

YOUR SIDE NEEDS TO EXPLAIN WHY....

Do you know how to read a barometer? ...

 

[EMH]

Do you know how to read a barometer? ...

LOL!!!!

Surface air pressure has been dropping. Do you know how to read a chart without FUDGED data?

Comparison of the interannual variation in sea level and air pressure at sea level, and the 5-year moving average​

 

[ReinyDays]

LOL!!!!

Surface air pressure has been dropping. Do you know how to read a chart without FUDGED data?

Comparison of the interannual variation in sea level and air pressure at sea level, and the 5-year moving average​

Okay ... you don't know how to read a barometer ... would please correct your chart and include all necessary information, you know, scientific-like ... pretty please with a cherry on top ...

 

[EMH]

Okay ... you don't know how to read a barometer ... would please correct your chart and include all necessary information, you know, scientific-like ... pretty please with a cherry on top ...

LOL!!!

Once again, a CHOSEN COWARD paid for by the Co2 FRAUD cannot respond to the truth that SURFACE AIR PRESSURE is going down slightly while everything this CHOSEN TRAITOR claims is happening should be pushing SURFACE AIR PRESSURE higher, but isn't.....

WHY?


answer = you cannot read a barometer, nevermind the ACTUAL DATA is posted right there....

 

[ReinyDays]

LOL!!!

Once again, a CHOSEN COWARD paid for by the Co2 FRAUD cannot respond to the truth that SURFACE AIR PRESSURE is going down slightly while everything this CHOSEN TRAITOR claims is happening should be pushing SURFACE AIR PRESSURE higher, but isn't.....

WHY?


answer = you cannot read a barometer, nevermind the ACTUAL DATA is posted right there....

Where do you state the margin of error? ... that's part of reading a barometer ... and where's your reference? ... is this part of the satellite data from the 19th Century? ...

 

[EMH]

Where do you state the margin of error? ... that's part of reading a barometer ... and where's your reference? ... is this part of the satellite data from the 19th Century? ...

Your Co2 FRAUD claims

net ongoing ice melt = any idea if that would increase or decrease surface air pressure
warming = ditto


If what you and the Co2 FRAUD claim is true, surface air pressure should be going up, but isn't.... WHY?

 

[ReinyDays]

Your Co2 FRAUD claims

net ongoing ice melt = any idea if that would increase or decrease surface air pressure
warming = ditto


If what you and the Co2 FRAUD claim is true, surface air pressure should be going up, but isn't.... WHY?

Because you don't know how to read a barometer ...

 

[EMH]

Because you don't know how to read a barometer ...

This is all they can do. They cannot answer the question.

Why is Surface Air Pressure not going up?

Because the Zionist Fascist Co2 FRAUD is 100% pure FRAUD and Reiny here is 100% a part of it....

 

[ReinyDays]

This is all they can do. They cannot answer the question.

Why is Surface Air Pressure not going up?

Because the Zionist Fascist Co2 FRAUD is 100% pure FRAUD and Reiny here is 100% a part of it....

Reference please ... you can spit poison all you want to ... no one's swallowing ... Jews invented greenhouses to destroy the world? ... ha ha ha ... I would like to try those drugs you're taking ...

 

[EMH]

Reference please ... you can spit poison all you want to ... no one's swallowing ... Jews invented greenhouses to destroy the world? ... ha ha ha ... I would like to try those drugs you're taking ...

Once again, a taxpayer funded Jew Supremacist Zionist Fascist refuses to answer a basic climate question that outs the Jew Supremacist Zionist Fascist Co2 FRAUD as FRAUD....

 

[ReinyDays]

Once again, a taxpayer funded Jew Supremacist Zionist Fascist refuses to answer a basic climate question that outs the Jew Supremacist Zionist Fascist Co2 FRAUD as FRAUD....

No citation means does not exist ... do you know how to read a barometer? ... a Jew would ... why do you hate whities? .,.,.

 

[EMH]

No citation means does not exist ... do you know how to read a barometer? ... a Jew would ... why do you hate whities? .,.,.

It is what it is. The Co2 Fraud is completely dumbfounded and has no idea how to respond.

The Co2 Fraud claims

1. ongoing net ice melt
2. temperature increase
3. burning of hydrocarbons

all three of which should be pushing SURFACE AIR PRESSURE higher, but aren't.....

because

THERE IS NO TEMPERATURE INCREASE
THERE IS NO ONGOING NET ICE MELT

and the Jew Supremacist supporters of the Co2 FRAUD here cannot explain....

 

[Dagosa]

Physical Laws state that if Earth is warming and ice is melting SURFACE AIR PRESSURE SHOULD BE RISING, but it isn't. Hence, there is "no reality" to the Co2 Fraud and there never was any.

More made up shit. As air warms, it expands. It’s not confined so there is no immediate change in air pressure. Cold air is associated with HIGHER pressure because it’s more dense. Just the opposite of your made up tripe. Geesus, you’re FOS

 

[Dagosa]

It is what it is. The Co2 Fraud is completely dumbfounded and has no idea how to respond.

The Co2 Fraud claims

1. ongoing net ice melt
2. temperature increase
3. burning of hydrocarbons

all three of which should be pushing SURFACE AIR PRESSURE higher, but aren't.....

because

THERE IS NO TEMPERATURE INCREASE
THERE IS NO ONGOING NET ICE MELT

and the Jew Supremacist supporters of the Co2 FRAUD here cannot explain....

No bozo. Cold air is associated with higher pressure because of it’s density….you’re making up shit. Heating air that is CONFINED increases pressure within a vessel. . The atmosphere is not confined….it’s allowed to expand, become less dense and decrease pressure.

 

[EMH]

It’s not confined

It is force constrained. You are a complete science invalid arguing that. The force that causes Surface Air Pressure is the mass of the gas in the "column" above the surface pulled by gravity.

Atmospheric pressure - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

" atmospheric pressure is closely approximated by the hydrostatic pressure caused by the weight of air above the measurement point"


and hence, while the atmosphere does expand when warmed, the mass does not change. Hence, the force at the surface does not change, but temperature increases, resulting in increased surface air pressure.

warm the atmosphere = higher surface air pressure.

 

[Dagosa]

It is force constrained. You are a complete science invalid arguing that. The force that causes Surface Air Pressure is the mass of the gas in the "column" above the surface pulled by gravity.

Atmospheric pressure - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

" atmospheric pressure is closely approximated by the hydrostatic pressure caused by the weight of air above the measurement point"


and hence, while the atmosphere does expand when warmed, the mass does not change. Hence, the force at the surface does not change, but temperature increases, resulting in increased surface air pressure.

warm the atmosphere = higher surface air pressure.

Dufus, it’s cold air that increase atmospheric pressure. Where did you get your education, from the grocery checkout counter ?