reading about slavery enrages me

[Tehon]

Do you realize that if blacks were not brought here that you might not be here now?

You can't justify it. It is twisted that you would even try.

And why would someone think that statement was trying to justify slavery? No part of it did.
It's just looking at life in whole, taking away something positive from a negative. Actually if any of us were
to change our ancestors history drastically we would not exist at all.

Are you for real?

I said it was bad.

Jackson said if it wasn't for it we might not be here.

That is a justification for it.

That is hardly a justification for slavery. It just happens to be a true fact...not their reason for having it.

That's what I said. It is not a justification.

But in context........that is what you were trying to do.

 

[Jackson]

Do you realize that if blacks were not brought here that you might not be here now?

You can't justify it. It is twisted that you would even try.

And why would someone think that statement was trying to justify slavery? No part of it did.
It's just looking at life in whole, taking away something positive from a negative. Actually if any of us were
to change our ancestors history drastically we would not exist at all.

Are you for real?

I said it was bad.

Jackson said if it wasn't for it we might not be here.

That is a justification for it.

That is hardly a justification for slavery. It just happens to be a true fact...not their reason for having it.

That's what I said. It is not a justification.

But in context........that is what you were trying to do.

It's just a fact, not intended for anything more. I wouldn't be here if some Swedes didn't come to America. Not justifying it.

 

[Yarddog]

Do you realize that if blacks were not brought here that you might not be here now?

You can't justify it. It is twisted that you would even try.

And why would someone think that statement was trying to justify slavery? No part of it did.
It's just looking at life in whole, taking away something positive from a negative. Actually if any of us were
to change our ancestors history drastically we would not exist at all.

Are you for real?

I said it was bad.

Jackson said if it wasn't for it we might not be here.

That is a justification for it.

Alright, if thats how you see the question, but I don't see it that way. I don't condone slavery, and especially the way it went down in the States, inflicting that type of pain on humans is not justifiable, yet at the same time, if someone like the OP is so consumed by anger every waking moment of their life... you might ask them if they get any happiness at all from existing. Because if he was a descendent of slaves he wouldn't exist had slavery never happened. It doesnt mean his hate for white people should disappear but his thankfulness to his ancestors should make his life a better place by outwheighing the anger. It's all how people choose to look at things.

 

[Yarddog]

You can't justify it. It is twisted that you would even try.

And why would someone think that statement was trying to justify slavery? No part of it did.
It's just looking at life in whole, taking away something positive from a negative. Actually if any of us were
to change our ancestors history drastically we would not exist at all.

Are you for real?

I said it was bad.

Jackson said if it wasn't for it we might not be here.

That is a justification for it.

That is hardly a justification for slavery. It just happens to be a true fact...not their reason for having it.

That's what I said. It is not a justification.

But in context........that is what you were trying to do.

It's just a fact, not intended for anything more. I wouldn't be here if some Swedes didn't come to America. Not justifying it.

Swede? I knew there was something wrong with you

 

[Tehon]

Do you realize that if blacks were not brought here that you might not be here now?

You can't justify it. It is twisted that you would even try.

And why would someone think that statement was trying to justify slavery? No part of it did.
It's just looking at life in whole, taking away something positive from a negative. Actually if any of us were
to change our ancestors history drastically we would not exist at all.

Are you for real?

I said it was bad.

Jackson said if it wasn't for it we might not be here.

That is a justification for it.

Alright, if thats how you see the question, but I don't see it that way. I don't condone slavery, and especially the way it went down in the States, inflicting that type of pain on humans is not justifiable, yet at the same time, if someone like the OP is so consumed by anger every waking moment of their life... you might ask them if they get any happiness at all from existing. Because if he was a descendent of slaves he wouldn't exist had slavery never happened. It doesnt mean his hate for white people should disappear but his thankfulness to his ancestors should make his life a better place by outwheighing the anger. It's all how people choose to look at things.

Fair enough.

That OP is just throwing shit against the wall to see what will stick.

 

[IM2]

Do you realize that if blacks were not brought here that you might not be here now?

You can't justify it. It is twisted that you would even try.

No I can't. Just as I can't justify any maiming or killing of any innocent people.

Maduro enrages me right now. He is cruel to an entire country of innocent people. Venezuelans are being starved and killed every day. There is no one to care for them. But I don't have hate in my heart and just hope and pray that there will be a coup to take him out. Did you know that food and medicine that is being brought over is burned at the border?

Slaves were fed and not all led a cruel life. But many did. This country realized how wrong it was, freed them and gave them citizenship.

Bless those slaves who stayed in the US! I put them on a pedestal. Think of the successful writers, inventers, shop keepers that kept on living her continually in a bad state until the 20th century.

Perhaps you can concentrate on those who made the difference for you! How great they are..Frederick Dounglas, Benjamin Benneker, Phillis Wheatly, Richard Allen, Peter Spencer, Sojourner Truth, and Nat Turner. Praise them for turning their hate into action of blacks and even others.

What a wonderful history of people you have!

Perhaps you understand that you're crazy.

 

[IM2]

Every time that I think or read about American slavery it makes me white-hot mad. I’m not sure if that healthy, but it happens. And, I think about American slavery ALL THE TIME.

Really?

Do you think about the apartheid that lasted for 100 years after slavery?

Do you think about the modern racism that has continued to last?

 

[katsteve2012]

Jackson, post: 22010271, member: 27360"]Do you realize that if blacks were not brought here that you might not be here now?[/QUOTE]

So should the descendants of holocaust survivors who fled to America be grateful for that event, because "they are here now"?

There is a big difference between slaves who ended up here forcibly, and were used like farm animals versus those who voluntarily immigrated here and had a much shorter road to travel in order to experience the benefits of being fully accepted as citizens.

 

[katsteve2012]

Do you hate the white people that were cruel to the slaves or admire the slaves for their fortitude?

Both.

I would say that there are going to be cruel people all throughout history of all colors, creeds, and religions. There has to be a balance between those feelings.

Although the slaves endured cruelty, most were not willing to go back to Liberia when offered free trips back to their original country. Why do you think that was the case?

If you were a slave, and recalled being transported across the world, in chains, fed just enough to keep you alive, and witnessing sick family members and friends being thrown overboard because they were the equivalant of animals, would you trust those same oppresors to safely return you back home, with no strings attached?

Most people would take their chances and find their own way back home.

 

[IM2]

Jackson, post: 22010271, member: 27360"]Do you realize that if blacks were not brought here that you might not be here now?

So should the descendants of holocaust survivors who fled to America be grateful for that event, because "they are here now"?

There is a big difference between slaves who ended up here forcibly, and were used like farm animals versus those who voluntarily immigrated here and had a much shorter road to travel in order to experience the benefits of being fully accepted as citizens.

The ignorant garbage posted by some of the whites here is just amazing.

 

[katsteve2012]

Do you hate the white people that were cruel to the slaves or admire the slaves for their fortitude?

Both.

I would say that there are going to be cruel people all throughout history of all colors, creeds, and religions. There has to be a balance between those feelings.

Although the slaves endured cruelty, most were not willing to go back to Liberia when offered free trips back to their original country. Why do you think that was the case?

Again, you can't justify it.

We cannot justify any of the hate in this world. If we stay in a state of hate, how good are we to society? Where does hate bring you? Acknowledge the greatness of you ancestors and try to live the kind of life they did successfully. None of them would be known today if they just sat and lived in hate.

How did he imply that "hate" is factor? Awareness of history is not hate. And not being grateful for what happened in the past is not hate either. Imagine a wealthy native american casino owner today, saying:

"I'm grateful that my tribe was nearly driven to the brink of extinction, because I have all of this now"

How do future generations learn how to not repeat mistakes of the past?

By knowing what happened in the oast.

 

[Tehon]

Jackson, post: 22010271, member: 27360"]Do you realize that if blacks were not brought here that you might not be here now?

So should the descendants of holocaust survivors who fled to America be grateful for that event, because "they are here now"?

There is a big difference between slaves who ended up here forcibly, and were used like farm animals versus those who voluntarily immigrated here and had a much shorter road to travel in order to experience the benefits of being fully accepted as citizens.

The ignorant garbage posted by some of the whites here is just amazing.

They're ate up with that guilt. They know that vile shit that festers within them is wrong.

 

[Jackson]

Jackson, post: 22010271, member: 27360"]Do you realize that if blacks were not brought here that you might not be here now?

So should the descendants of holocaust survivors who fled to America be grateful for that event, because "they are here now"?

There is a big difference between slaves who ended up here forcibly, and were used like farm animals versus those who voluntarily immigrated here and had a much shorter road to travel in order to experience the benefits of being fully accepted as citizens.[/QUOTE]
I don't see the similarities. Halocaust survivors came here on their own accord. No one put ropes around their necks, forced them on a ship and brought them here against their will.
They were escaping the most horrid of attrocities known to man.

 

[katsteve2012]

Jackson, post: 22010271, member: 27360"]Do you realize that if blacks were not brought here that you might not be here now?

So should the descendants of holocaust survivors who fled to America be grateful for that event, because "they are here now"?

There is a big difference between slaves who ended up here forcibly, and were used like farm animals versus those who voluntarily immigrated here and had a much shorter road to travel in order to experience the benefits of being fully accepted as citizens.

I don't see the similarities. Halocaust survivors came here on their own accord. No one put ropes around their necks, forced them on a ship and brought them here against their will.
They were escaping the most horrid of attrocities known to man.[/QUOTE]

There were differences, obviously. But the one common denominator is that both ended up here due to a horrific set of circumstances.

 

[Jackson]

Do you hate the white people that were cruel to the slaves or admire the slaves for their fortitude?

Both.

I would say that there are going to be cruel people all throughout history of all colors, creeds, and religions. There has to be a balance between those feelings.

Although the slaves endured cruelty, most were not willing to go back to Liberia when offered free trips back to their original country. Why do you think that was the case?

Again, you can't justify it.

We cannot justify any of the hate in this world. If we stay in a state of hate, how good are we to society? Where does hate bring you? Acknowledge the greatness of you ancestors and try to live the kind of life they did successfully. None of them would be known today if they just sat and lived in hate.

How did he imply that "hate" is factor? Awareness of history is not hate. And not being grateful for what happened in the past is not hate either. Imagine a wealthy native american casino owner today, saying:

"I'm grateful that my tribe was nearly driven to the brink of extinction, because I have all of this now"

How do future generations learn how to not repeat mistakes of the past?

By knowing what happened in the oast.

You are right. We must learn from the past.

 

[IM2]

Jackson, post: 22010271, member: 27360"]Do you realize that if blacks were not brought here that you might not be here now?

So should the descendants of holocaust survivors who fled to America be grateful for that event, because "they are here now"?

There is a big difference between slaves who ended up here forcibly, and were used like farm animals versus those who voluntarily immigrated here and had a much shorter road to travel in order to experience the benefits of being fully accepted as citizens.

I don't see the similarities. Halocaust survivors came here on their own accord. No one put ropes around their necks, forced them on a ship and brought them here against their will.
They were escaping the most horrid of attrocities known to man.[/QUOTE]

The holocaust was Christmas compared to slavery, apartheid and modern white racism. The holocaust ended.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Eh, you know, no one in my family ever owned slaves and yet were here longer than most any Americans.

This area is where if a black man could run away to? He was free, and was treated equally, as a man should be.

Just make it south of that river, you can be a cracker!

My people were dirt farmers, not much cattle, enough to eat is all. I realize there were some bad things done north of here, but my family had nothing to do with that. They hid people out from the Klan.

My grandma stopped 3 klan from hanging her daddy with a butcher knife.

I owe IM2 a big

You get nothing you didn't earn. Were your ancestors slaves, or slave owners, hmm? Sup?

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Every time that I think or read about American slavery it makes me white-hot mad. I’m not sure if that healthy, but it happens. And, I think about American slavery ALL THE TIME.

Slavery still exists in today time...

 

[Marion Morrison]

Every time that I think or read about American slavery it makes me white-hot mad. I’m not sure if that healthy, but it happens. And, I think about American slavery ALL THE TIME.

Slavery still exists in today time...

Not south of the St. John's river. Possibly in Mobile.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Every time that I think or read about American slavery it makes me white-hot mad. I’m not sure if that healthy, but it happens. And, I think about American slavery ALL THE TIME.

Slavery still exists in today time...

Not south of the St. John's river. Possibly in Mobile.

Sex Slavery is a major issue throughout the world while also employers hiring illegals keeping enslaved with the threat of deportation or worst death.