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Rabbis forced the Romans to crucify Jesus

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The ancient Israelites we're a cult of temple. Their veneration and devotion were toward a particular object.

Why must you inject yourself into their narrative? You're not mentioned in the Bible.

And when you call people antisemites who say not one single word about your Talmudic or rabbinic Judaism, you're just pissing in the wind.
The ancient Israelites we're a cult of temple. Their veneration and devotion were toward a particular object.

More proof you make statements not based on Scripture.
 

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No, it hasn't. The cult of temple in Judea had only one eschaton. Only one history.
There was an oral tradition before the books were ever put on paper..Hitler had only one history to but that did not make him no less a mad man...Another thing most here seem to be forgetting is that no Jew can die for the sins of others.....
 

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2 already; the 3rd when we deserve it.
In the meanwhile, we do what most Jews did when the Temples stood...we prayed at a local synagogue.
The NT has a nasty sentiment about Jews who pray at the synagogue. Just saying.
 

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There was an oral tradition before the books were ever put on paper..Hitler had only one history to but that did not make him no less a mad man...Another thing most here seem to be forgetting is that no Jew can die for the sins of others.....
There's actually a verse.
I can't remember it off hand and I have zero desire to Google it.
 

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The ancient Israelites we're a cult of temple. Their veneration and devotion were toward a particular object.

Why must you inject yourself into their narrative? You're not mentioned in the Bible.

And when you call people antisemites who say not one single word about your Talmudic or rabbinic Judaism, you're just pissing in the wind.
When you use the word “cult” to describe Jews, it’s a putdown toward Jews. Duh.
 

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The NT has a nasty sentiment about Jews who pray at the synagogue. Just saying.
The NT goes out of it's way to forbid anyone from praying in public.
But the Holy Roman Catholic Church wanted money.
 

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When you use the word “cult” to describe Jews, it’s a putdown toward Jews. Duh.
I can fill a non-existent void with what norwegan knows about any religion.
 

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The ancient Israelites we're a cult of temple. Their veneration and devotion were toward a particular object.

More proof you make statements not based on Scripture.
Yup. What “object” were Jews devoted to? They weren’t worshipping the temple. They were worshipping G-d. Same thing today.
 

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Yes, the Jewish leaders pushed for Jesus to be crucified. The Romans did it to maintain order and peace.

But also, according to Christian doctrine, the crucification of Jesus bought forgiveness for every Christian. So whether you thank the Romans or the Jews, the new covenant was brought about by the death, and subsequent resurrection of Jesus.
 

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There was an oral tradition before the books were ever put on paper..Hitler had only one history to but that did not make him no less a mad man...Another thing most here seem to be forgetting is that no Jew can die for the sins of others.....
There was no oral tradition about the destruction of the temple and the end of the age, except insofar as some of the prophets may have alluded to it.

These events happened only one time in history. No oral tradition.
 

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The NT goes out of it's way to forbid anyone from praying in public.
But the Holy Roman Catholic Church wanted money.
Yeah, I don’t get that. It calls Jews “hypocrites” for praying as part of a community. What’s wrong with THAT? That’s a big part of the religion - the community. That’s why we require a minyan.
 

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Yes, the Jewish leaders pushed for Jesus to be crucified. The Romans did it to maintain order and peace.

But also, according to Christian doctrine, the crucification of Jesus bought forgiveness for every Christian. So whether you thank the Romans or the Jews, the new covenant was brought about by the death, and subsequent resurrection of Jesus.
What Christians?
It took centuries for anyone to create a new religion.
 

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Yeah, I don’t get that. It calls Jews “hypocrites” for praying as part of a community. What’s wrong with THAT? That’s a big part of the religion - the community. That’s why we require a minyan.
Paul's plan was to suppress the Jews from belonging to a community.
 

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There was no oral tradition about the destruction of the temple and the end of the age, except insofar as some of the prophets may have alluded to it.

These events happened only one time in history. No oral tradition.
There was an oral tradition after the destruction of the 2nd Temple in 70CE.......
 

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Paul's plan was to suppress the Jews from belonging to a community.
Why? Was it because.….just a guess….he knew there is strength in numbers, and it’s easier to convert Jews if you can separate them? Sort of a divide and conquer thing?
 

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Look the word up, Einstein. It's simply veneration or devotion toward a figure or object.

Duh.
Which did not exist.
Jews are forbidden in the 10 Commandments from worshipping any physical object.
Is it that you don't what you're talking about or you're just an asshole who should be ignored.
 

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Look the word up, Einstein. It's simply veneration or devotion toward a figure or object.

Duh.
Duh. The word carries negative connotations. Don’t be obtuse.
 

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Why? Was it because.….just a guess….he knew there is strength in numbers, and it’s easier to convert Jews if you can separate them? Sort of a divide and conquer thing?
The Commandments are impossible to be performed by an individual.
 

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There was an oral tradition after the destruction of the 2nd Temple in 70CE.......
Okay, then. There was an oral tradition regarding Herod's refurbished temple and the other prophecies of the Olivet Discourse.

That's incredible. Will you share it, please? And please don't post the Olivet Discourse.
 

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