Pretti Shooting my opinion as a member of US Lawfare

[XponentialChaos]

Pretti made offensive contact during the interaction. That's assault on LE per your provided and quoted directly from your definition.

Please clarify.

Are you saying that “Getting pushed back off the streets” is considered assault?

 

[XponentialChaos]

The video, dumbass.

There was no “attack” by Pretti in that video, Grandpa. You’re just making shit up or you’re going senile. Which is it?

 

[OODA_Loop]

Please clarify.

Are you saying that “Getting pushed back off the streets” is considered assault?

The first time he was pushed off the streets. he stood their arguing and bumping chests with the officer = Offensive contact.

The second time he came back he placed himself between officers and a woman making contact.

More over the whistle blowing in close proximity is offensive contact and assault per your provided legal definition

 

[Frankenstein]

He intervened to help a woman being abused by ICE
ICE killed him for it

was she an illegal, was she obstructing, should have minded his own business. This whole charade of protesting(rioting) is to take the focus off of the skinnies fraud.

 

[Frankenstein]

There was no “attack” by Pretti in that video, Grandpa. You’re just making shit up or you’re going senile. Which is it?

so much for respect for your elders!

 

[Hafar1014]

5 seconds after being taken away is when there was an accidental discharge of Petti’s firearm

Which is what caused federal agents to open fire

And they were justified to do so

There was no accidental discharge thats theory that hasnt been supported by any evidence.
Watch this its the best analysis of the shooting which was unlawful use of deadly force

 

[Hafar1014]

In the 2nd video your “expert” says he didnt see pretti’s firearm discharge

But I have seen video where it looked like a discharge to me

When Pretti, aka NumNuts’s gun discharged the other agents opened fire

So then where is the spent casing? It doesnt exist because it never happened

 

[XponentialChaos]

The first time he was pushed off the streets. he stood their arguing and bumping chests with the officer = Offensive contact.

Ok. Let’s take a look at the definition again that we agreed on.

"Assault is generally defined as an intentional act that puts another person in reasonable apprehension of imminent harmful or offensive contact. No physical injury is required, but the actor must have intended to cause a harmful or offensive contact with the victim and the victim must have thereby been put in immediate apprehension of such a contact."

That’s not assault. Pretti was pushed off the streets, meaning that the officer was the one initiating contact.

If you stand in my way, and I push you, we can’t say that you’re guilty of assault because I pushed you.

 

[XponentialChaos]

so much for respect for your elders!

My silly grandpa sometimes needs a little help.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Ok. Let’s take a look at the definition again that we agreed on.

"Assault is generally defined as an intentional act that puts another person in reasonable apprehension of imminent harmful or offensive contact. No physical injury is required, but the actor must have intended to cause a harmful or offensive contact with the victim and the victim must have thereby been put in immediate apprehension of such a contact."

That’s not assault. Pretti was pushed off the streets, meaning that the officer was the one initiating contact.

If you stand in my way, and I push you, we can’t say that you’re guilty of assault because I pushed you.

Were not talking about you and pushing each other.

If police push you first that means you can push them back?

 

[Frankenstein]

My silly grandpa sometimes needs a little help.

you know he had kicked the taillight off of a vehicle prior, he was no innocent little lamb

 

[XponentialChaos]

Were not talking about you and pushing each other.

If police push you first that means you can push them back?

You said:

“The first time he was pushed off the streets”.

 

[OODA_Loop]

You said:

“The first time he was pushed off the streets”.

The first time he got face to face bumping chest with the officer = assault.

 

[XponentialChaos]

you know he had kicked the taillight off of a vehicle prior, he was no innocent little lamb

Did you see him “attack” anyone on the day he was killed? My grandpa might be going senile.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Did you see him “attack” anyone on the day he was killed? My grandpa might be going senile.

Saw him assault LE on the day he was shot.

 

[XponentialChaos]

The first time he got face to face bumping chest with the officer = assault.

“He (Pretti) was pushed” isn’t assault.

 

[OODA_Loop]

“He was pushed” isn’t assault.

Oh so you can push an officer?

 

[XponentialChaos]

Oh so you can push an officer?

The one getting pushed isn’t guilty of assault.

If you get pushed by an officer, that doesn’t make you guilty of assault. Obviously. lol.

 

[OODA_Loop]

If you get pushed by an officer, that doesn’t make you guilty of assault. Obviously. lol.

Clarify. If you get pushed off the street by an officer and push him or bump your chest into him in return that's assault.

Come on.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Clarify. If you get pushed off the street by an officer and push him or bump your chest into him in return that's assault.

Come on.

The one getting pushed isn’t guilty of assault.

You said: “The first time he was pushed off the streets” referring to Pretti being pushed off the streets. That’s not assault by Pretti.