Zone1 POLL: "Where do (your) Basic Human Rights come from? Zone1

[Leo123]

The words are "their creator" not god. Nature can be their creator if one is an atheist

God created nature.

 

[Chuz Life]

God created nature.

Or vice versa.

More likely the case.

(More evidence for that)

 

[BreezeWood]

????????

physiological life has a beginning on planet earth - whether rites or not that occurred over time to an intermediate conclusion that continues to this day. seemingly humanity has the ability to bring all life to an end is the only true difference from the other life that has evolved.

humanity threatens the rites of others to live.

 

[ChristisKing]

God created nature.

What if we started applying atheism logic to other stuff? Like say a million no a billion dollars just happens to appear in my bank account out of nowhere.

 

[JGalt]

Where do (your) Basic Human Rights come from?

Basic Human Rights are something that has been debated in this forum for decades.

It's obvious that we don't all agree on what basic human rights are, nor especially where basic human rights come from.

Let's vote and discuss!

Zone1 Rules Apply!

All human rights come from God, and faith is the evidence: The substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

 

[Hafar1014]

God created nature.

The point is it can apply to anyone
So who created god

 

[Leo123]

The point is it can apply to anyone
So who created god

Which human can be the Creator or God? God is created by belief in an an agreed upon higher power. We have no scientific proof of where life came from or the Universe but we can come together and agree on belief in a Creator. That's the point.

 

[Hafar1014]

Which human can be the Creator or God? God is created by belief in an an agreed upon higher power. We have no scientific proof of where life came from or the Universe but we can come together and agree on belief in a Creator. That's the point.

I had to read this a few times. We are digressing. You said God is created by belief. I believe you mean the concept. A human cant create god. Science cant measure god. God has many concepts that are very different. Abstract, personal, energy, animism. Or no god at all.
What is interesting is the human brain is hard wired for spiritual thinking.

The most relevant term for the brain and spiritual thinking is neurotheology, also called spiritual neuroscience, which is the scientific study of the biological and neurological processes behind religious and spiritual experiences. Other related terms include self-transcendence, a personality trait related to spiritual feeling, and religious cognition, which refers to thoughts and feelings about the spiritual.

Neurotheology

• Definition:
  Neurotheology is the interdisciplinary field that studies the relationship between the brain, the mind, and spiritual phenomena.
  
  
• What it studies:
  It examines brain states and neural networks associated with experiences like awe, unity, and a sense of connectedness.
  
  
• Key concepts:
  It explores how activities such as meditation and prayer can affect the brain, potentially leading to lower rates of depression and anxiety, according to the National Institutes of Health (NIH) | (.gov) and Big Think.
  

Other Related Terms

 

[Chuz Life]

Just trying to think outta the box Chuz.....

do we have the right to see the sun come up tomorrow?

~S~

I'm trying to appreciate the question and challenge it presents here.

My short answer is No.

My reasoning is this: If seeing the sun coming up tomorrow were an actual right, then anything that prevents or interferes with that ability to see the sun coming up would be a violation of that right. Including a clouded sky. Or illness, oversleeping, one's own forgetfulness, etc.

That said, we do all have a right to want or desire things (like watching a sunrise).

Nature doesn't owe us anything, regardless.

 

[Chuz Life]

All human rights come from God, and faith is the evidence: The substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

That's odd.

I usually enjoy a good pretzel.

Huh.

I'm sorry. Where were we?

 

[Crepitus]

Yes, people procreate. What is the source of that?

Nature did

 

[BreezeWood]

Which human can be the Creator or God? God is created by belief in an an agreed upon higher power. We have no scientific proof of where life came from or the Universe but we can come together and agree on belief in a Creator. That's the point.

there is no reason to believe a single creator exists - as conditions for life on earth evolved first that set in motion the metaphysical forces that collectively made the first living organism that has since evolved even further to who knows what end or new beginning - from the heavens is far more accurate than a deity and definitely not from a desert bible.

 

[sparky]

I'm trying to appreciate the question and challenge it presents here.

thx Chuz

Nature doesn't owe us anything, regardless.

no, and quite frankly nature can be rather cruel

~S~

 

[Leo123]

there is no reason to believe a single creator exists - as conditions for life on earth evolved first that set in motion the metaphysical forces that collectively made the first living organism that has since evolved even further to who knows what end or new beginning - from the heavens is far more accurate than a deity and definitely not from a desert bible.

First life did not evolve because there was nothing from which to evolve. We know that one single living cell can have literally thousands of active parts, motors, valves, etc. Even if given all the parts to make a cell, we cannot bring it to life and have it replicate.

Define 'metaphysical forces.' Did they create life? If so, can they not be called a creator? Or God?

If you'd like to learn more, here is a link to a bona fide scientist who is also a Christian.

Dr. James Tour

jmtour.com

 

[BreezeWood]

Define 'metaphysical forces.' Did they create life? If so, can they not be called a creator? Or God?

that set in motion the metaphysical forces that collectively made the first living organism ...

the combination of the metaphysical forces and the elements of the periodic table is what made the first living organism on planet earth. synchronized w/ earths development ... not a god, creation made by the heavens.

gravity, thermodynamics et al - the metaphysical forces, perhaps unknown in true numbers.

 

[Mortimer]

That rights come from God or creator is like saying to children Santa Clause gave you those gifts when it actually was your parents if you say but the founders said God gave me those rights but it was them saying it but they were the government at that time and humans themselfes

 

[Mortimer]

That rights come from God or creator is like saying to children Santa Clause gave you those gifts when it actually was your parents if you say but the founders said God gave me those rights but it was them saying it but they were the government at that time and humans themselfes

Dont get me wrong i do believe humans have inherent rights but we have to ourselfes protect them in a form of us being the government if we just pray to God we wont have any rights i do believe God does something sometimes but its once in a billion times we have to give us our rights ourselfes

 

[Chuz Life]

Would that all thosd who voted "other" might be forthcoming and charitable enough to share with the rest of us where you believe your basic human rights come from.

Since you didn't select God, nature or government. . .inquiring minds want to know.

 

[shockedcanadian]

I had to read this a few times. We are digressing. You said God is created by belief. I believe you mean the concept. A human cant create god. Science cant measure god. God has many concepts that are very different. Abstract, personal, energy, animism. Or no god at all.
What is interesting is the human brain is hard wired for spiritual thinking.

The most relevant term for the brain and spiritual thinking is neurotheology, also called spiritual neuroscience, which is the scientific study of the biological and neurological processes behind religious and spiritual experiences. Other related terms include self-transcendence, a personality trait related to spiritual feeling, and religious cognition, which refers to thoughts and feelings about the spiritual.

Neurotheology

• Definition:
  Neurotheology is the interdisciplinary field that studies the relationship between the brain, the mind, and spiritual phenomena.
  
  
• What it studies:
  It examines brain states and neural networks associated with experiences like awe, unity, and a sense of connectedness.
  
  
• Key concepts:
  It explores how activities such as meditation and prayer can affect the brain, potentially leading to lower rates of depression and anxiety, according to the National Institutes of Health (NIH) | (.gov) and Big Think.

Other Related Terms

The problem with this is that animals mourn their dead, some engage in a ritual of sorts. elephants will visit the body of their dead, sometimes for years. Why? This is a fascinating realization. Shouldn't animals just avoid any impulse or sadness at all and move on with their lives? They are may be wired to feel grief and appreciate that death exists, is worth paying attention to rather than just pursuing their need for food and shelter etc.

 

[SweetSue92]

How can I verify or validate that claim?

What evidence is there to support it?


That seems plausible.

Even for all the millions of years of lives lost before us.


I must be among the "very few," then, because I am seeing less and less evidence and reason to conclude otherwise.

Okay. Then start acting like the bag of meat you are.

You do, right? Act like a bag of meat whose existence means nothing?

If not....why not?