Zone1 Pray for the Iranian people, many comparisons right now to the Book of Esther.

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Goodie for you! Others may not be so willing to stampede over a cliff with a herd of swine.

There are over 2 billion Christians who believe that Jesus is Lord.

 

[BreezeWood]

There are over 2 billion Christians who believe that Jesus is Lord.

- how many others believe jesus who themself never claimed to be a messiah and repudiated judaism believe either they are a messiah or whatever their claim of lord is but rather the true religion of antiquity ... including jesus. they have been many throughout history.

that believe the true events of the 1st century and not the claims made by desert dwellers, 4th century christianity - bing.

 

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how many others believe jesus who themself never claimed to be a messiah

Jesus claimed to be more and behaved as if he were more. The gospels make a concerted effort to show that Jesus taught that the messiah would be a suffering servant as foretold in Isaiah 53:1-12. The gospels make a concerted effort to show Jesus acknowledged being a king, but redefined this role as a spiritual, non-political, and heavenly sovereignty rather than a conventional earthly monarchy. The gospels make a concerted effort to show Jesus affirmed a role greater than David.

repudiated judaism believe either they are a messiah or whatever their claim of lord is

Jesus corrected misunderstandings of the role of the messiah and that it's not about rule keeping. It's about love. Loving God and loving your neighbors.

but rather the true religion of antiquity ... including jesus

You can't get more true than loving God and loving your neighbors.

they have been many throughout history.

There has never been another like Jesus.

that believe the true events of the 1st century and not the claims made by desert dwellers, 4th century christianity - bing.

That's because you reject Jesus.

 

[BreezeWood]

Jesus corrected misunderstandings of the role of the messiah ...

there is never a messiah made in the heavens for jews this is the knowledge not only for the 1st century events but as the original religion of antiquity, self determination and the triumph necessary for admission to the everlasting by the heavens and nothing else.

 

[shockedcanadian]

I prayed for peace and the protection of the imnocent.

 

[hobelim]

There are over 2 billion Christians who believe that Jesus is Lord.

So. That was then. This is now. As this yankee told you; two people whacking off in church.

One will be taken. The other left behind.

Toodles!

 

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there is never a messiah made in the heavens for jews...

Jesus didn't become the messiah in heaven. In heaven Jesus was fully God. It wasn't until he was born that he became fully man and the messiah. And it wasn't just for Jews.

the knowledge not only for the 1st century events but as the original religion of antiquity, self determination and the triumph necessary for admission to the everlasting by the heavens and nothing else.

You are trying to say too many things in one sentence. Shorter more concise sentences would be better. I am not aware of an original religion of antiquity. Where did it begin? When did it begin? What triumph is necessary? Over what?

 

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So. That was then. This is now. As this yankee told you; two people whacking off in church.

One will be taken. The other left behind.

Toodles!

This is just you lashing out because you are at war with Christians.

 

[hobelim]

This is just you lashing out because you are at war with Christians.

You can tell yourself watever you want, whatever makes you feel better about being bested.

The truth remains, "Every plant not planted by my Heavenly Father will be extirpated."

 

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You can tell yourself watever you want, whatever makes you feel better about being bested.

That's your ego talking.

The truth remains, "Every plant no planted by my Heavenly Father will be extirpated."

According to 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12 you will be condemned for using deception to lead others away from Christ.

 

[hobelim]

According to 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12 you will be condemned for using deception to lead others away from Christ.

Either that or you will remain condemned for using deception to mislead others into worshipping the Antichrist, a false counterfeit ascetic Jesus, a supernatural mangod whose number, like satan's indelible signature, is tattooed in the middle or your bashed in forehead.

Take my advice, Never gamble. You suck at it. Loser.

 

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Either that or you will remain condemned for using deception to mislead others into worshipping the Antichrist, a false counterfeit ascetic Jesus, a supernatural mangod whose number, like satan's indelible signature, is tattooed in the middle or your bashed in forehead.

Take my advice, Never gamble. You suck at it. Loser.

I haven't used deception. I use the gospels. The gospels make a concerted effort to show the divinity of Christ. It is you who is using deception to distort the gospels. I'm reading them as they are. You are reading them how you want them to be.

 

[hobelim]

I haven't used deception. I use the gospels. The gospels make a concerted effort to show the divinity of Christ. It is you who is using deception to distort the gospels. I'm reading them as they are. You are reading them how you want them to be.

"Therefore consider carefully how you listen. Whoever has will be given more; whoever does not have, even what they think they have will be taken from them.”

 

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"Therefore consider carefully how you listen. Whoever has will be given more; whoever does not have, even what they think they have will be taken from them.”

This verse, found in Luke 8:18 (and similar to Luke 19:26, Matthew 13:12), is a warning from Jesus to listen to God’s word with intent and action, not passively. It implies that proper use of understanding leads to spiritual growth (receiving more), while neglecting God's truth causes one to lose even their perceived knowledge. It follows the "Parable of the Sower" (Luke 8:4-15), which illustrates different ways people hear the Gospel (the seed). This is a call to take action (put instructions into practice) rather than just hearing words. This refers to having a receptive, obedient heart. Those who apply the truth will receive deeper understanding. This refers to a heart that is distracted or closed off to the truth. A careless listener will lose even their superficial, perceived understanding. It describes a spiritual principle regarding stewardship of knowledge, where "using" truth increases it, but neglecting it causes it to fade away.
Luke 8:18 is a, "use it or lose it" teaching regarding spiritual truth, not a christological statement denying Jesus' divinity. Luke 8:18 is describing YOU and your perversion of the gospels.

 

[BreezeWood]

Jesus didn't become the messiah in heaven. In heaven Jesus was fully God. It wasn't until he was born that he became fully man and the messiah. And it wasn't just for Jews.


You are trying to say too many things in one sentence. Shorter more concise sentences would be better. I am not aware of an original religion of antiquity. Where did it begin? When did it begin? What triumph is necessary? Over what?

there is never a messiah made in the heavens for jews this is the knowledge not only for the 1st century events but as the original religion of antiquity, self determination and the triumph necessary for admission to the everlasting by the heavens and nothing else.

one sentence is better than your combined rhetoric save your first sentence that are without a shred of evidence, pandering to a book of fiction written in the 4th century.

jesus made clear there is never a messiah from heaven for the jews or anyone else ...

who's spirit is freed to live in the everlasting will never occur from reading a book the spoken religion of antiquity six words in length is eternal in any language for admission to the everlasting - the triumph of good vs evil - is the heavenly goal, means to attain judgement and admission to the everlasting.

sinners, desert dwellers the three desert religions presence in garden earth are the gardens greasiest threat to its existence and humanity, does not require jesus to resolve rather for the individual themself to bring to justice those crucifiers is all that is necessary.

 

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jesus made clear there is never a messiah from heaven for the jews or anyone else ...

Show me.

 

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who's spirit is freed to live in the everlasting will never occur from reading a book the spoken religion of antiquity six words in length is eternal in any language for admission to the everlasting - the triumph of good vs evil - is the heavenly goal, means to attain judgement and admission to the everlasting.

sinners, desert dwellers the three desert religions presence in garden earth are the gardens greasiest threat to its existence and humanity, does not require jesus to resolve rather for the individual themself to bring to justice those crucifiers is all that is necessary.

I really do wish you would write a book.

 

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the triumph of good vs evil

Is a wolf evil for eating a lamb? If the lamb kills the wolf is that good triumphing vs evil? Does evil even exist? When society breaks down and a man enters your home and takes what he wants from you because he can is he being evil? Or Darwinian?

 

[BreezeWood]

jesus made clear there is never a messiah from heaven for the jews or anyone else ...

Show me.

they knew and repudiated judaism - false commandments et al and gave their life for that reason than allow the jews to convince the world otherwise there religion has merit.

that there ever would exist a messiah for any reason is an anathema - all in the heavens are equal there is no one special only a desert dweller would find time to even consider such an event for their own self centered ambitions.

 

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they knew and repudiated judaism - false commandments et al and gave their life for that reason than allow the jews to convince the world otherwise there religion has merit.

that there ever would exist a messiah for any reason is an anathema - all in the heavens are equal there is no one special only a desert dweller would find time to even consider such an event for their own self centered ambitions.

Who knew?