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[Nosmo King]

Where would Donald Plump have the authority to over rule governors?

Where do the Governors get the authority to nullify the US Constitution?

What precisely does the 1st amendment say? And which governors prohibited worship? Just because congregating en mass is prohibited for health and safety, that does not prohibit worship.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Where would Donald Plump have the authority to over rule governors?

Where do the Governors get the authority to nullify the US Constitution?

How the hell is the Constitution being nullified? Nobody is stopping them from gathering, they are just wanting them to do it safely. It's not the building that makes the church, it's the people in the congregation.

Governor Roy Cooper has stopped churches from congregating until they sued him.

That's a temporary freeze on the order.

Conservative Christian leaders sued Gov. Roy Cooper on Thursday, asking a court to throw out his restrictions on indoor religious services in North Carolina during the COVID-19 pandemic. They argued the limits, initiated by Cooper with health in mind, violate their rights to worship freely.

Two Baptist churches, a minister and a Christian revival group filed the federal lawsuit seeking to immediately block enforcement of rules covering religious services within the Democratic governor's executive orders. The latest order still largely prevents most faith organizations from holding indoor services attended by more than 10 people.

Cooper’s office has said the newest order stating permitted services may “take place outdoors unless impossible” carries only a narrow exception, such as when religious activities dictate they occur indoors with more people.

 

[CWayne]

Assembly is NOT an illegal act

It is when gatherings of that size are illegal.

The government cannot nullify the First Amendment.

 

[Nosmo King]

Where would Donald Plump have the authority to over rule governors?

Where do the Governors get the authority to nullify the US Constitution?

How the hell is the Constitution being nullified? Nobody is stopping them from gathering, they are just wanting them to do it safely. It's not the building that makes the church, it's the people in the congregation.

They shall make no law. YOU, and GOVERNEMENT do NOT get to decide how.

No church can be closed because HOW a person chooses to worship is BEYOND the authority of government.

Who is "they"?

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; "

There are no codicils or exemptions. Period.

 

[Nosmo King]

Where would Donald Plump have the authority to over rule governors?

Where do the Governors get the authority to nullify the US Constitution?

How the hell is the Constitution being nullified? Nobody is stopping them from gathering, they are just wanting them to do it safely. It's not the building that makes the church, it's the people in the congregation.

Governor Roy Cooper has stopped churches from congregating until they sued him.

That's a temporary freeze on the order.

Conservative Christian leaders sued Gov. Roy Cooper on Thursday, asking a court to throw out his restrictions on indoor religious services in North Carolina during the COVID-19 pandemic. They argued the limits, initiated by Cooper with health in mind, violate their rights to worship freely.

Two Baptist churches, a minister and a Christian revival group filed the federal lawsuit seeking to immediately block enforcement of rules covering religious services within the Democratic governor's executive orders. The latest order still largely prevents most faith organizations from holding indoor services attended by more than 10 people.

Cooper’s office has said the newest order stating permitted services may “take place outdoors unless impossible” carries only a narrow exception, such as when religious activities dictate they occur indoors with more people.

Is their suit based on restraint of trade?

 

[CWayne]

Where would Donald Plump have the authority to over rule governors?

Where do the Governors get the authority to nullify the US Constitution?

What precisely does the 1st amendment say? And which governors prohibited worship? Just because congregating en mass is prohibited for health and safety, that does not prohibit worship.

Because government cannot dictate the manner in which people worship, and the right of assembly is in the First for the express purpose of keeping government authority limited.

If government can dictate the manner in which people worship, they can then dictate HOW people worship and that is establishing a religion.

 

[Nosmo King]

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; "

There are no codicils or exemptions. Period.

Has Congress made such a law?

 

[rightwinger]

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; "

There are no codicils or exemptions. Period.

So you support Sharia Law as the free exercise of religion

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; "

There are no codicils or exemptions. Period.

Has Congress made such a law?

Under the 14th Amendment, the Constitution applies to the States. Period.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The government cannot nullify the First Amendment

Actually, it can, temporarily, in emergencies.

 

[rightwinger]

Where would Donald Plump have the authority to over rule governors?

Where do the Governors get the authority to nullify the US Constitution?

What precisely does the 1st amendment say? And which governors prohibited worship? Just because congregating en mass is prohibited for health and safety, that does not prohibit worship.

Because government cannot dictate the manner in which people worship, and the right of assembly is in the First for the express purpose of keeping government authority limited.

If government can dictate the manner in which people worship, they can then dictate HOW people worship and that is establishing a religion.

Government is dictating that large groups are a danger to themselves and to others. All large groups are included and religion is not being singled out

 

[KGB]

Pecking order for decision to open

1. State and local authorities
2. Courts
3. Individual churches
4. Members of the church
5. President

In a first, I actually agree with this. Trump really doesn’t have the authority to override, but he does have the bully pit of the Presidency to advocate for it.

 

[Nosmo King]

Where would Donald Plump have the authority to over rule governors?

Where do the Governors get the authority to nullify the US Constitution?

What precisely does the 1st amendment say? And which governors prohibited worship? Just because congregating en mass is prohibited for health and safety, that does not prohibit worship.

Because government cannot dictate the manner in which people worship, and the right of assembly is in the First for the express purpose of keeping government authority limited.

If government can dictate the manner in which people worship, they can then dictate HOW people worship and that is establishing a religion.

Ask a voodoo priest if his manner of worship has been constrained. And what precisely does that amendment say?

 

[KGB]

The government cannot nullify the First Amendment

Actually, it can, temporarily, in emergencies.

please point out where exactly in the Constitution, this exists...

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Where would Donald Plump have the authority to over rule governors?

Where do the Governors get the authority to nullify the US Constitution?

How the hell is the Constitution being nullified? Nobody is stopping them from gathering, they are just wanting them to do it safely. It's not the building that makes the church, it's the people in the congregation.

Governor Roy Cooper has stopped churches from congregating until they sued him.

That's a temporary freeze on the order.

Conservative Christian leaders sued Gov. Roy Cooper on Thursday, asking a court to throw out his restrictions on indoor religious services in North Carolina during the COVID-19 pandemic. They argued the limits, initiated by Cooper with health in mind, violate their rights to worship freely.

Two Baptist churches, a minister and a Christian revival group filed the federal lawsuit seeking to immediately block enforcement of rules covering religious services within the Democratic governor's executive orders. The latest order still largely prevents most faith organizations from holding indoor services attended by more than 10 people.

Cooper’s office has said the newest order stating permitted services may “take place outdoors unless impossible” carries only a narrow exception, such as when religious activities dictate they occur indoors with more people.

Is their suit based on restraint of trade?

Link was posted I'm not going to play your word games dumb ass

 

[rightwinger]

Pecking order for decision to open

1. State and local authorities
2. Courts
3. Individual churches
4. Members of the church
5. President

In a first, I actually agree with this. Trump really doesn’t have the authority to override, but he does have the bully pit of the Presidency to advocate for it.

He didn’t advocate, he ordered by this weekend

Well beyond his authority

 

[KGB]

Pecking order for decision to open

1. State and local authorities
2. Courts
3. Individual churches
4. Members of the church
5. President

In a first, I actually agree with this. Trump really doesn’t have the authority to override, but he does have the bully pit of the Presidency to advocate for it.

He didn’t advocate, he ordered by this weekend

Well beyond his authority

He can state it however he wants, it’s still advocacy...

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; "

There are no codicils or exemptions. Period.

So you support Sharia Law as the free exercise of religion

Of course.

That is not to say America is required to submit to Sharia outside of that specific religious practice, nor that practitioners can exercise certain aspects illegal in society, same as the old Christian practice of burning witches is no longer permitted.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

please point out where exactly in the Constitution, this exists...

A stupid request. It exists in legislation.

An example: a weather emergency. Yes, your right to peaceably assemble may be temporarily suspended.