Opening the straight not hard at all

Just a matter of resolve....

An Iranian tanker has just made it through on its way to China.

Sink it!

Not hard, one maybe two torpedoes.

Don't want to sink it? Knock off the rudder and propeller.

Iran is not the only country that can close the straight.

If no one else gets through neither do the Iraian ships.

This is not at all hard.

Jo
The tanker loaded at Khargil Island

Seize the island and the mullahs will have no money
 
I think that may become the plan.

Unfortunately they know this too, so it will be no cakewalk.
Arm the Iranian Kurds and let them take island

Which they can do with Allied air and naval support

Unfortunately I think the jihadi shia Revolutionary Guard will destroy the refineries themselves
 
You know everything you post is false, and thus you have no hope of proving any of it to be true.
Lie to us some more. Its all you do.

I've proven everything I posted, with links to credible sources. If you're too stupid to read them, that's your problem.

None of the people you call "liars" are lying, but YOU are when you accuse them without refuting their posts, or proving they are.

Only a person who habitually lies, thinks others are lying as well. You think everyone is as dishonest as you. Your accusation is your confession.

Yesterday Trump demanded that 7 nations send warships to keep the Straits of Hormuz open because "they need the oil" and the USA doesn't. None of these nations returned his call.


Post your evidence.

Let's start with this one:





 
Arm the Iranian Kurds and let them take island

Which they can do with Allied air and naval support

Unfortunately I think the jihadi shia Revolutionary Guard will destroy the refineries themselves

The Kurds???? The people Trump screwed over the last time he was in office, when he pulled US troops out and let the Turks and the Russians try to murder them??? I doubt they'll do ANYTHING for Trump, and why would they? Trump cannot be trust to keep his word.

Trump can't even get any of your former allies to return his phone calls at this point.
 
Good luck trying that, Trump is scared to death of anymore body bags coming back to the US and troops on the ground will guarantee that, it's the reason he is trying to rope Nato in.
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All military assets on the island have already been destroyed.




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Good luck trying that, Trump is scared to death of anymore body bags coming back to the US and troops on the ground will guarantee that, it's the reason he is trying to rope Nato in.
Problem with NATO is that to invoke Article 5, the US has to be attacked. Any other NATO involvement would be discretionary.

Trump has not exactly been on good terms with our NATO allies. Threatening Greenland, pressuring Denmark, mocking UK, France, Germany and Italy.
Not a good way to gain good will.
 
So, no evidence.

Trump Says NATO Will Have ‘Very Bad Future’ If Allies Don’t Help US In Iran:​

Trump warned of a dark future for NATO if U.S. allies choose not to help the U.S.-Israeli war on Iran, according to the Financial Times.

“We have a thing called NATO,” Trump told FT in an interview on Sunday. “We’ve been very sweet. We didn’t have to help them with Ukraine. Ukraine is thousands of miles away from us . . . But we helped them. Now we’ll see if they help us. Because I’ve long said that we’ll be there for them but they won’t be there for us. And I’m not sure that they’d be there.”

“If there’s no response or if it’s a negative response I think it will be very bad for the future of Nato,” Trump also said.

UK, France, Australia and Japan tell him no.

What an idiot Trump is. And now he's threatening our allies and trying to get them to join WW3. I know you'll say I'm unpatriotic but NATO should tell Trump to **** off. Or if he wants help, drop all tariffs NOW.


If Trump did this and it blows up in his face, that is not their fault. Perhaps he needs to step down???
 

Trump Says NATO Will Have ‘Very Bad Future’ If Allies Don’t Help US In Iran:​

Trump warned of a dark future for NATO if U.S. allies choose not to help the U.S.-Israeli war on Iran, according to the Financial Times.

“We have a thing called NATO,” Trump told FT in an interview on Sunday. “We’ve been very sweet. We didn’t have to help them with Ukraine. Ukraine is thousands of miles away from us . . . But we helped them. Now we’ll see if they help us. Because I’ve long said that we’ll be there for them but they won’t be there for us. And I’m not sure that they’d be there.”

“If there’s no response or if it’s a negative response I think it will be very bad for the future of Nato,” Trump also said.

UK, France, Australia and Japan tell him no.

What an idiot Trump is. And now he's threatening our allies and trying to get them to join WW3. I know you'll say I'm unpatriotic but NATO should tell Trump to **** off. Or if he wants help, drop all tariffs NOW.


If Trump did this and it blows up in his face, that is not their fault. Perhaps he needs to step down???
Step down? he should be taken down on medical grounds.
 
Your claim is that Iran never attacked us prior to this war?

Quit trying to justify Trump's illegal war by claiming Iran attacked you, because that dog won't hunt. Trump has been itching to start a war with Iran since the first time he was in the White House and ordered the assassination of their Minister of Defense. The only reason that didn't work is because the MULLAHS showed restraint.

When the crazy clerics show more restraint than the American president, you're in big trouble, but that's where you're at.

You clowns have been falsely claiming that Trump has restored respect for America all over the world. This weekend, Trump demanded that other nations participate in keeping the Straights of Hormuz open because they need the oil and you don't. The world leaders didn't even bother to return his calls.

That's how much respect they have for Donald Trump. They won't even take the lying criminals calls any more.
 
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Trump Says NATO Will Have ‘Very Bad Future’ If Allies Don’t Help US In Iran:​

Trump warned of a dark future for NATO if U.S. allies choose not to help the U.S.-Israeli war on Iran, according to the Financial Times.

“We have a thing called NATO,” Trump told FT in an interview on Sunday. “We’ve been very sweet. We didn’t have to help them with Ukraine. Ukraine is thousands of miles away from us . . . But we helped them. Now we’ll see if they help us. Because I’ve long said that we’ll be there for them but they won’t be there for us. And I’m not sure that they’d be there.”

“If there’s no response or if it’s a negative response I think it will be very bad for the future of Nato,” Trump also said.

UK, France, Australia and Japan tell him no.

What an idiot Trump is. And now he's threatening our allies and trying to get them to join WW3. I know you'll say I'm unpatriotic but NATO should tell Trump to **** off. Or if he wants help, drop all tariffs NOW.


If Trump did this and it blows up in his face, that is not their fault. Perhaps he needs to step down???
NATO is under no obligation to help us. Article 5 only applies if the US is attacked …..not for preemptive or retaliatory military excursions.

As usual, Trump does not consult our allies before he acts impulsively. These are the same allies he has invoked punitive tariffs, insulted, mocked and bullied.

Then he is outraged when they don’t flock to support him
 
Quit trying to justify Trump's illegal war by claiming Iran attacked you, because that dog won't hunt. Trump has been itching to start a war with Iran since the first time he was in the White House and ordered the assassination of their Minister of Defense. The only reason that didn't work is because the MULLAHS showed restraint.

When the crazy clerics show more restraint than the American president, you're in big trouble, but that's where you're at.

You clowns have been falsely claiming that Trump has restored respect for America all over the world. This weekend, Trump demanded that other nations participate in keeping the Straights of Hormuz open because they need the oil and you don't. The world leaders didn't even bother to return his calls.

That's how much respect they have for Donald Trump. They won't even take the lying criminals calls any more.

When I saw OhPleaseJustQuit just gave you a fake news I said oh please just stop.
 
Problem with NATO is that to invoke Article 5, the US has to be attacked. Any other NATO involvement would be discretionary.

Trump has not exactly been on good terms with our NATO allies. Threatening Greenland, pressuring Denmark, mocking UK, France, Germany and Italy.
Not a good way to gain good will.
Article five means whatever they want it to mean, i heard a guy on LBC radio this morning say NATO is a defensive pact, well someone forgot to tell Yugoslavia when it was bombed for 78 days by that criminal gang,NATO forces were involved in the destruction of Libya, so where did this article 5 bollocks come into it?
 
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