Because to hit merchant ships, US Navy ships should come closer. And coming close to Iranian territory is not really safe.
The only ships passing through the Strait of Hormuz are Iran's "Shadow Fleet".
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Target Kharg Island where the ships get their oil fromSo tell me what I'm missing. If the only ships passing through the Strait of Hormuz are Iran's shadow fleet, then why aren't we targeting them? We have precision strike missiles that can disable the rudder/propellers without sinking or destroying the tanker. It seems we should be doing that.
Why shadow tankers are the only ships still moving through the Strait of Hormuz
Despite Iranian threats to destroy any ships that pass through a key maritime route, some ships are still doing so.theconversation.com
Take the island and the jihadi’s have no money coming in
Is your Google fu good enough to find something about Club-K missiles?
Club K Missile System: Design and Operational Capabilities
The Club K system turns commercial cargo into potent cruise missile launchers. We detail its unique design, Kalibr capabilities, and strategic implications.
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The Club-K missile system is a Russian-designed, multi-purpose cruise missile complex engineered for maximum concealment and mobility. Developed by the Novator Design Bureau, the system integrates advanced missile technology into a commercially ubiquitous form factor. This unique approach allows the Club-K to engage both surface and ground targets from unconventional platforms.
The Containerized Concept and Design
The core innovation of the Club-K system is its integration within a standard 40-foot ISO shipping container, though a 20-foot version has also been noted. This design provides strategic concealment, allowing the system to blend seamlessly into global commercial logistics networks. It is transportable by commercial cargo ships, railway cars, and flatbed trucks, maintaining the appearance of normal freight until deployment.
The container houses three primary functional components: the Universal Start Module (USM), the Combat Control Module (MCU), and the Power Supply and Life Support Module (LPM). The USM is the physical launcher, designed to prepare and vertically fire the missiles. The MCU provides command and control for targeting and launch authorization, while the LPM ensures the system can operate autonomously for a period without external infrastructure.
Key Technical Specifications
The Club-K weapon complex is built around the dimensions of a standard 40-foot shipping container (12.2 meters long, 2.44 meters wide, and 2.59 meters high). Fully loaded, the system’s weight is substantial, demanding robust transport platforms for movement. The Universal Start Module (USM), the primary launch component, typically contains a quad-pack of four transport-and-launch containers, each holding one cruise missile.
The deployment sequence requires compromising the container’s facade to allow vertical launch. Before firing, the container roof is removed or opened, and the USM’s integrated lifting mechanism raises the launch tubes into position. The system utilizes the internal LPM or an external power source to execute command, control, and targeting functions before missile ejection.
Missile Variants and Operational Capabilities
The Club-K is designed to fire variants from the Kalibr (or Klub) family of cruise missiles, which fall into two main categories: anti-ship and land-attack.
Anti-Ship Variant
The primary anti-ship variant is the 3M-54TE, known in the West by the NATO designation SS-N-27 Sizzler. This missile features a three-stage design, flying at subsonic speed for most of its trajectory but accelerating to supersonic speeds (up to Mach 2.9) during the terminal phase to evade point-defense systems. It carries a 200-kilogram high-explosive warhead, with an export-controlled range limited to 300 kilometers.
Land-Attack Variant
The land-attack variant, the 3M-14TE (NATO SS-N-30), operates as a long-range subsonic cruise missile, flying at approximately Mach 0.8. It is equipped with a heavier 450-kilogram high-explosive warhead, or a cluster warhead option for area targets. While the export version is restricted to a 300-kilometer range under international arms control regimes, domestic variants can achieve ranges up to 2,500 kilometers. The 3M-14 utilizes a guidance package combining inertial navigation with satellite navigation updates (GLONASS or GPS), ensuring high accuracy over long distances
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They will have money from Russia. I mean, even with current oil prices Russia has more than additional $150M daily and no more US sanctions. Burning down Arabs' oil fields will bring Russia and Iran much more money and influence than selling oil for cheap with discount.
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It's simple. They can open an account in a Russian bank, and Russian government, may be through Rossotrudnichestvo, will put money on this account.
They can sell services for the destruction of Arab oil rigs (or for destruction of American cities).
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Russia cannot afford to give Iran money with nothing in return
If we seize Kharg Island the mullahs are f@@ked
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They coukd have if Kamala Harris was president and they were able yo build the bomb
But that didnt happen
Who said about "nothing in return"? Even current slowdown of Hormuz strait brings Russia additional $150.000.000 daily. Burning down Arab's oil fields will skyrocket oil prices to, say, $250/barrel. And it will give Russia, say, $500.000.000 daily.
Actually, those marines, in the range of every weapon Iran has, will be sitting ducks.
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More failed propaganda from one of the usual dipshits.
We haven’t lost aircraft to Iran. You simply lie. Are you a paid propagandist or just a flaming retard?
Also, Iran doesn’t control the strait of Hormuz. They are, however, seeking to do so. In that too they will fail.
We also aren’t seeing to conquer Iran. So your messaging is bullshit right from the very start.
How many countries have Israel, Britain, China and Pakistan vowed to wipe off the map?
Name me one hot point in the Middle East that is not a proxy of Iran? Hamas, Hezbollah, the Southis - all Iranian proxies.
Not saying China and Pakistan are good countries, but Iran is a sponsor of terrorism and oppresses their own people on steroids.
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Houthis.
Iran didn't vow to wipe off Israel. At least not officially. Their official enemy is "zionist regime". As well as "democratic" countries do actually destroy "tyrannies". And they actually attacked a lot of countries.
Israel (the hottest point) is not Iranian proxy (they are proxies of the USA). Current Syrian regime are more proxies of Turkey. A lot of terroristic networks are proxies of Saudis, Kuwait and many other countries.
There are a lot of sponsors of terrorism (like the USA) and all governments (especially democratic) opress their own people.
I knew it all long before.
Unlike you with your arrogance, hubris, and ignorance, I'm aware of others here reading if not posting and like to let them know what you are talking about, and faking about.
Especially since you rarely provide sources, links, etc.
- Iran’s government does not recognize Israel as a legitimate state and has long taken a hostile stance toward it.
- Former president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (2005) was widely reported as saying Israel should be “wiped off the map.”
- Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei (2015) said Israel “won’t exist in 25 years.”
- Iranian rhetoric and slogans like “Death to Israel” are commonly used in official and public settings.
- Some Iranian military figures have also used language like “annihilate Israel.”
Which democratic countries enforce medieval dress codes and massacre peaceful protesters en masse?
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I don't need to provide links as most of my information comes from direct experience, of which you have none.
You have yet to explain how Iran can get from not even having a crude bomb to designing and launching a weapon capable of creating an EMP without triggering WWIII in the process. That's about 30 years technological advancement that you claim can happen overnight.
Who says Iran has to develop such tech on it's own when it's possible that Russia or China might hand such to Iran and use them as their proxy against the USA/West. ???
You keep displaying why you'd never be an S2/G2 on a General Staff.
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I ******* doubt Russia or China wants Iran to start WWIII or they would just have given the ******* weapon to wipe Israel off the map already.
You really don't think your crackpot theories through, do you?
No, we don't have those kinds of things in the Navy. No need. Each ship is assigned targets by the warfare commanders, surface, sir and subsurface.
As if Israel and the USA recognise Iran (or anybody else) as a legitimate and sovereign state. In fact, the very conception of Pax Americana and American exeptionalism means denial of the sovereignity of all other states.
So what? Many Russian politicians said that the USA should be destroyed, too. Some talk about "The Strait of Stalin" between Canada and Mexico, some suggest other options. It's not that you didn't deserve it.
There is still 4 years to see if he was right or wrong.
So what? American official narrative is that Russians are not humans and shouldn't have basic human rights.
And Israel wants annihilate Iran (and not only them).
You see, oppression is not only enforcement of certain dress codes or shooting peaceful or not that peaceful protesters.
Of course they will. America supply Kievan regime with long-range weapons for attacking Russian Federation. Russia will definitely supply Iran with weapons to attack the USA, too.
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