Obama going pro pot?

[thanatos144]

so many of you idiots. Pot is dangerous and deadly. it just doesn't end your life quickly and yet still many of you fools think it is good for you because it doesn't kill you quick.

i smoked it through the 70's and 80's and never seen pot kill or hurt someone who just smoked pot,and there was dozens of them....but i have seen the deadly effects of Cigarettes,Alcohol,cocaine,meth,barbiturates especially when they were mixed.....and of course if the person also smoked some Pot with all this other shit.....people like you and Katz....point out the Pot they were smoking....

Sure you haven't seen the negative effects....I mean I am sure when they got cancer or emphysema it was from something else right?

 

[thanatos144]

Yeah but THC reduces the effects of the Carcinogenic substances (which is why THC concentrates are used to combat cancer) while nicotine enhances it's effects.

Thats why people who smoke weed don't get lung cancer, but tabacco smokers do.

And every time a bell rings a angle gets its wings.

prove the guy wrong....

Um not how it works genius . But I am sure he can find at least 200 pro pot lobby sites that will back him up.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Every word these people speak has an objective. My guess is that this will soon be added to the DNC platform.

Now the platform will look like this.

1. Abortion
2. Gay sex
3. Limitless spending
4. Pot
5. Free everything

Sounds like a real "party" to me!!

That's pretty much the Dimocrat party.
Lay around smoking pot, and see how many government programs you can latch on to.

 

[BlindBoo]

so many of you idiots. Pot is dangerous and deadly. it just doesn't end your life quickly and yet still many of you fools think it is good for you because it doesn't kill you quick.

i smoked it through the 70's and 80's and never seen pot kill or hurt someone who just smoked pot,and there was dozens of them....but i have seen the deadly effects of Cigarettes,Alcohol,cocaine,meth,barbiturates especially when they were mixed.....and of course if the person also smoked some Pot with all this other shit.....people like you and Katz....point out the Pot they were smoking....

Sure you haven't seen the negative effects....I mean I am sure when they got cancer or emphysema it was from something else right?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/335916-obama-going-pro-pot-12.html#post8492829

Marijuana Smoking Not Linked to Chronic Breathing Problems

Jan. 10, 2012 -- Woodstock generation, breathe easy. One of the largest and longest studies ever to look at the effect of marijuana smoking on lung health finds that pot smoking doesn’t appear to cause chronic breathing trouble.

The study has followed more than 5,000 young adults in four cities for more than two decades. More than half of the people in the study reported smoking tobacco, marijuana, or both.

As more states legalize marijuana -- 16 states and the District of Columbia now allow its medical use -- experts have worried that the kinds of lung damage caused by cigarettes could also be brought on by pot smoking.

Indeed, cigarette smokers in the study saw their lung function drop significantly over 20 years.

But that didn’t happen to people who only smoked marijuana.

In fact, the study found that the lung function of most marijuana smokers actually improved slightly over time.

 

[KNB]

Why are people still arguing against marijuana legalization? Do you small-government Conservatives really like having the DEA and ATF busting down Americans' doors over the same plant that saved America during World War II?

What part of "America legalized marijuana in 1942" do you people not understand? Marijuana was made illegal as a dangerous drug in 1937 and then legalized again in 1942. America legalized marijuana and encouraged Americans to grow it. Smoking the flowers of the female plant didn't concern anyone even after all of the anti-marihuana hype and bullshit tabloid stories about weed causing all of the rape, murder, crime and poverty on Earth.

None of these facts matter because Republicans heard a story once about someone who smoked weed and crashed their car or something.

There was a "Baby Boom" after America won World War II. Everyone on Earth was so relieved that the genocide had stopped that they celebrated by having sex which led to a baby boom. If Conservatives had their way in 1942, Marijuana would not have been legalized, the Allies would have lost the war, England would be gone, Israel would not exist, Hawaii would belong to Japan, and there wouldn't have been a baby boom like there was so none of you would have been born.

But it doesn't matter that facts, science, and history all disprove the urban legends about marijuana because Republicans want to "Just Say No".

America is going to legalize marijuana again because We the People have truth on our side, and like in every other generation since the dawn of civilization, it is the responsibility of Progressives to drag Conservatives kicking and screaming into the new age.

Go **** yourselves, GOP.

 

[HenryBHough]

I'd rather see marijuana decriminalized than legalized.

Difference?

Ponder this: cigarettes are legalized and you pay immense taxes on them. Carrots never were criminalized so are effectively "decriminalized" (or would have been had they ever been criminalized) so you can grow all you want and nobody demands you have a permit, license or pay a tax.

Damn fools wanting "legalization" are begging to be controlled (required permits/licenses) and TAXED.

Go for it. Obama needs the money to redistribute.

 

[Harry Dresden]

so many of you idiots. Pot is dangerous and deadly. it just doesn't end your life quickly and yet still many of you fools think it is good for you because it doesn't kill you quick.

i smoked it through the 70's and 80's and never seen pot kill or hurt someone who just smoked pot,and there was dozens of them....but i have seen the deadly effects of Cigarettes,Alcohol,cocaine,meth,barbiturates especially when they were mixed.....and of course if the person also smoked some Pot with all this other shit.....people like you and Katz....point out the Pot they were smoking....

Sure you haven't seen the negative effects....I mean I am sure when they got cancer or emphysema it was from something else right?

i still know many of those people.....they are still around....not sick or dead....and i saw pictures from the 40th class reunion.....lots of them people still around just looking older....some did alright for themselves too.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

And every time a bell rings a angle gets its wings.

prove the guy wrong....

Um not how it works genius . But I am sure he can find at least 200 pro pot lobby sites that will back him up.

oh it isnt?.....but we are supposed to believe 200 of your Anti-Pot sites right?....works both ways "genius".....

 

[Katzndogz]

No I didn't. I don't drive while impaired or intoxicated. Cell phones and texting are a much greater risk.

Do you know how many times I hear that same line of b******* except where I work I see all you start coming to the store to buy your munchies. When and if marijuana becomes legal around the country and not just in two States I want to become legal without all the b******* people like you spout about if it is so great you don't need to lie about it do you?

tapatalk post

The only folks I see lying about the dangers of Cannabis are the Big Government supporters, like you. Cell phones and distracted drivers pose a much greater threat than munchies seeking stoners.

Cell phone may have role in officer's death (video) - Houston Chronicle

Really? Then how do you account for:

Marijuana a major cause of accidents? What study says - CBS News

The study found that nearly 30 percent of fatally injured drivers tested positive for drugs other than alcohol, with marijuana being the main culprit.

"Given the ongoing epidemic of drug-impaired driving and the increased permissibility and accessibility of marijuana for medical use in the U.S., it is urgent that we better understand the role of marijuana in causing car accidents," study author Dr. Guohua Li, professor of epidemiology at Columbia University, said in a written statement.

For the study - published in the Oct. issue of Epidemiologic Reviews -researchers analyzed nine large-scale drugged driving studies. The researchers found that drivers who tested positive for marijuana within three hours of using were more than twice as likely to be involved in a motor vehicle crash. The study also showed that the crash risk was higher if the marijuana concentration levels found in the urine were higher.

So the more marijuana motorists smoke before getting behind the wheel, the more likely they are to crash? Stop the presses.

Teen Driver In Deadly Southern State Parkway Crash Remains Hospitalized As Investigation Continues « CBS New York


MALVERNE, N.Y. (CBSNewYork) – As friends and fellow classmates mourned the four 18-year-olds who were killed in a crash Monday on the Southern State Parkway, stunning new details on the crash have emerged.
Sources told CBS 2, the driver, 17-year-old Joseph Beer, told police he and the other victims were smoking marijuana prior to the crash.

Marijuana Use May Double the Risk of Accidents for Drivers | News | Mailman School of Public Health

o examine the link between marijuana use by drivers and risk of a car accident, researchers at Columbia University did a meta-analysis of nine epidemiologic studies and found that drivers who test positive for marijuana or who report using marijuana are more than twice as likely as other drivers to be involved in motor vehicle crashes. The researchers also found evidence that crash risk increases with the concentration of marijuana-produced compounds in the urine and the frequency of self-reported marijuana use.
According to the researchers 8 of 9 studies found that drivers who use marijuana are significantly more likely to be involved in crashes than drivers who do not.

 

[Zander]

I'd rather see marijuana decriminalized than legalized.

Difference?

Ponder this: cigarettes are legalized and you pay immense taxes on them. Carrots never were criminalized so are effectively "decriminalized" (or would have been had they ever been criminalized) so you can grow all you want and nobody demands you have a permit, license or pay a tax.

Damn fools wanting "legalization" are begging to be controlled (required permits/licenses) and TAXED.

Go for it. Obama needs the money to redistribute.

I agree with you But it's not going to happen - the "States" want the CA$H that taxing Marijuana will bring.

 

[KNB]

So marijuana should be illegal because someone might drive while intoxicated, but alcohol should be legal even though tens of thousands of people drive while intoxicated.

That's an example of Red State logic. It doesn't make any sense at all.

What's your counter-argument? "Do we really need another legal drug impairing people's driving?" People get high and drive all the time whether or not marijuana is legal. People get drunk and drive all the time whether or not alcohol is legal. Making these things illegal for everyone because of a few screw-ups only hurts those people who use it responsibly. We don't outlaw alcohol anymore because too many average people were being made into criminals for the mistakes of a few morons. So by your Republican logic, would you like America to outlaw all of your guns because some thug somewhere shot three people? We made drunk-driving illegal, not alcohol. Colorado and Washington made stoned-driving illegal, not marijuana.

America already tried to outlaw alcohol and the problems which that caused were much worse than people getting drunk and partying. The same goes for marijuana. After 75 years of prohibition, and legalizing it to save the world, marijuana is still illegal, the drug war is an absolute failure, international drug cartels are stronger than Al Capone ever dreamed, innocent people are victims of overbearing laws, and responsible members of society have to suffer because "someone might abuse it".

People abuse nasal spray but it's still legal to buy, and snorting too much nasal spray will cause an overdose way before smoking too much marijuana. So please, Republican Conservative FOX-News voters, since you refuse to learn anything true about Cannabis, shut the **** up about something that you have absolutely no knowledge of whatsoever.

 

[NLT]

Legalize it & tax the **** out of it. The war on drugs has been a huge waste of resources and has done nothing but spawn drug cartels. Prohibiton proved that you cant stop people from getting high.

 

[RandallFlagg]

i smoked it through the 70's and 80's and never seen pot kill or hurt someone who just smoked pot,and there was dozens of them....but i have seen the deadly effects of Cigarettes,Alcohol,cocaine,meth,barbiturates especially when they were mixed.....and of course if the person also smoked some Pot with all this other shit.....people like you and Katz....point out the Pot they were smoking....

Sure you haven't seen the negative effects....I mean I am sure when they got cancer or emphysema it was from something else right?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/335916-obama-going-pro-pot-12.html#post8492829

Marijuana Smoking Not Linked to Chronic Breathing Problems

Jan. 10, 2012 -- Woodstock generation, breathe easy. One of the largest and longest studies ever to look at the effect of marijuana smoking on lung health finds that pot smoking doesn’t appear to cause chronic breathing trouble.

The study has followed more than 5,000 young adults in four cities for more than two decades. More than half of the people in the study reported smoking tobacco, marijuana, or both.

As more states legalize marijuana -- 16 states and the District of Columbia now allow its medical use -- experts have worried that the kinds of lung damage caused by cigarettes could also be brought on by pot smoking.

Indeed, cigarette smokers in the study saw their lung function drop significantly over 20 years.

But that didn’t happen to people who only smoked marijuana.

In fact, the study found that the lung function of most marijuana smokers actually improved slightly over time.

You know, I don't know how old you are and, frankly, I don't care. I'm 69. I remember the "studies" by this health "science" organization and that health "science" organization back in the late 50s and early 60s that came out with the results of "study" after "study" telling us all that cigarettes were harmless. And, of course, those "studies" were paid for by tobacco companies.

I want to see the study of the young people who are now smoking weed 6-8 times a day for the next 20 years. And, I want to see the study paid for by reputable scientific organizations - not those paid for by NORML - and we'll see what the results are.

Frankly, I don't care if you stoner jerk offs blow your brains out - means nothing to me. But you sound exactly like those idiots back then who smoked themselves to death, claiming that it did "nothing" to them; hacking their lungs out and then wanted "satisfaction" from the tobacco companies.

Stupid fools. Hell, one look at that incompetent president we have and it's relatively easy to understand the dangers of weed…..

 

[Seawytch]

I'd rather see marijuana decriminalized than legalized.

Difference?

Ponder this: cigarettes are legalized and you pay immense taxes on them. Carrots never were criminalized so are effectively "decriminalized" (or would have been had they ever been criminalized) so you can grow all you want and nobody demands you have a permit, license or pay a tax.

Damn fools wanting "legalization" are begging to be controlled (required permits/licenses) and TAXED.

Go for it. Obama needs the money to redistribute.

Yeah? Try using seeds that have a little Monsanto in them...

 

[BlindBoo]

Do you know how many times I hear that same line of b******* except where I work I see all you start coming to the store to buy your munchies. When and if marijuana becomes legal around the country and not just in two States I want to become legal without all the b******* people like you spout about if it is so great you don't need to lie about it do you?

tapatalk post

The only folks I see lying about the dangers of Cannabis are the Big Government supporters, like you. Cell phones and distracted drivers pose a much greater threat than munchies seeking stoners.

Cell phone may have role in officer's death (video) - Houston Chronicle

Really? Then how do you account for:

Marijuana a major cause of accidents? What study says - CBS News

The study found that nearly 30 percent of fatally injured drivers tested positive for drugs other than alcohol, with marijuana being the main culprit.

"Given the ongoing epidemic of drug-impaired driving and the increased permissibility and accessibility of marijuana for medical use in the U.S., it is urgent that we better understand the role of marijuana in causing car accidents," study author Dr. Guohua Li, professor of epidemiology at Columbia University, said in a written statement.

For the study - published in the Oct. issue of Epidemiologic Reviews -researchers analyzed nine large-scale drugged driving studies. The researchers found that drivers who tested positive for marijuana within three hours of using were more than twice as likely to be involved in a motor vehicle crash. The study also showed that the crash risk was higher if the marijuana concentration levels found in the urine were higher.

So the more marijuana motorists smoke before getting behind the wheel, the more likely they are to crash? Stop the presses.

Teen Driver In Deadly Southern State Parkway Crash Remains Hospitalized As Investigation Continues « CBS New York


MALVERNE, N.Y. (CBSNewYork) – As friends and fellow classmates mourned the four 18-year-olds who were killed in a crash Monday on the Southern State Parkway, stunning new details on the crash have emerged.
Sources told CBS 2, the driver, 17-year-old Joseph Beer, told police he and the other victims were smoking marijuana prior to the crash.

Marijuana Use May Double the Risk of Accidents for Drivers | News | Mailman School of Public Health

o examine the link between marijuana use by drivers and risk of a car accident, researchers at Columbia University did a meta-analysis of nine epidemiologic studies and found that drivers who test positive for marijuana or who report using marijuana are more than twice as likely as other drivers to be involved in motor vehicle crashes. The researchers also found evidence that crash risk increases with the concentration of marijuana-produced compounds in the urine and the frequency of self-reported marijuana use.
According to the researchers 8 of 9 studies found that drivers who use marijuana are significantly more likely to be involved in crashes than drivers who do not.

Erowid Cannabis Vault : Exposing Marijuana Myths

CLAIM #12:
MARIJUANA IS A MAJOR CAUSE OF HIGHWAY ACCIDENTS

 

[Seawytch]

Sure you haven't seen the negative effects....I mean I am sure when they got cancer or emphysema it was from something else right?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/335916-obama-going-pro-pot-12.html#post8492829



Marijuana Smoking Not Linked to Chronic Breathing Problems



Jan. 10, 2012 -- Woodstock generation, breathe easy. One of the largest and longest studies ever to look at the effect of marijuana smoking on lung health finds that pot smoking doesn’t appear to cause chronic breathing trouble.



The study has followed more than 5,000 young adults in four cities for more than two decades. More than half of the people in the study reported smoking tobacco, marijuana, or both.



As more states legalize marijuana -- 16 states and the District of Columbia now allow its medical use -- experts have worried that the kinds of lung damage caused by cigarettes could also be brought on by pot smoking.



Indeed, cigarette smokers in the study saw their lung function drop significantly over 20 years.



But that didn’t happen to people who only smoked marijuana.



In fact, the study found that the lung function of most marijuana smokers actually improved slightly over time.

You know, I don't know how old you are and, frankly, I don't care. I'm 69. I remember the "studies" by this health "science" organization and that health "science" organization back in the late 50s and early 60s that came out with the results of "study" after "study" telling us all that cigarettes were harmless. And, of course, those "studies" were paid for by tobacco companies.



I want to see the study of the young people who are now smoking weed 6-8 times a day for the next 20 years. And, I want to see the study paid for by reputable scientific organizations - not those paid for by NORML - and we'll see what the results are.



Frankly, I don't care if you stoner jerk offs blow your brains out - means nothing to me. But you sound exactly like those idiots back then who smoked themselves to death, claiming that it did "nothing" to them; hacking their lungs out and then wanted "satisfaction" from the tobacco companies.



Stupid fools. Hell, one look at that incompetent president we have and it's relatively easy to understand the dangers of weed…..

I know some of those stoners...they're a damn site better off than the people who do the same with booze.

 

[KNB]

Let's legalize it, tax the appropriate amount, and let the hemp industry flourish.

The US Federal government provided Cannabis seeds to Americans who agreed to grow "Marihuana" during World War II. The cost was included in the farmers' tax totaling $5 (the Producer of Marihuana license shown in Hemp For Victory was $1). That was in 1942.

According to the US Bureau of Labor Statistics inflation calculator, $5 in 1942 would have the same buying power as $71.46 in 2013. So why are Colorado voters paying $80 today for over-inflated taxes on 3.5 grams of legal Cannabis when each person could simply pay the tax of $71.46 for the license to legally grow as much as possible to provide jobs, support our troops, and defend democracy and freedom during war?
Inflation Calculator: Bureau of Labor Statistics

American farmers are promised a new cash crop with an annual value of several hundred million dollars, all because a machine has been invented which solves a problem more than 6,000 years old. It is hemp, a crop that will not compete with other American products. Instead, it will displace imports of raw material and manufactured products produced by underpaid coolie and peasant labor and it will provide thousands of jobs for American workers throughout the land.
Vote Hemp: Why Hemp?: New Billion-Dollar Crop

Legalize it, tax the correct amount, and let the free market take over. The market isn't free as long as our number one agricultural commodity is illegal.

 

[NLT]

If I needed a ride home, I would rather be in a car with a stoned person, than a drunk one. have you ever seen weedheads drive?

 

[BlindBoo]

Sure you haven't seen the negative effects....I mean I am sure when they got cancer or emphysema it was from something else right?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/335916-obama-going-pro-pot-12.html#post8492829

Marijuana Smoking Not Linked to Chronic Breathing Problems

Jan. 10, 2012 -- Woodstock generation, breathe easy. One of the largest and longest studies ever to look at the effect of marijuana smoking on lung health finds that pot smoking doesn’t appear to cause chronic breathing trouble.

The study has followed more than 5,000 young adults in four cities for more than two decades. More than half of the people in the study reported smoking tobacco, marijuana, or both.

As more states legalize marijuana -- 16 states and the District of Columbia now allow its medical use -- experts have worried that the kinds of lung damage caused by cigarettes could also be brought on by pot smoking.

Indeed, cigarette smokers in the study saw their lung function drop significantly over 20 years.

But that didn’t happen to people who only smoked marijuana.

In fact, the study found that the lung function of most marijuana smokers actually improved slightly over time.

You know, I don't know how old you are and, frankly, I don't care. I'm 69. I remember the "studies" by this health "science" organization and that health "science" organization back in the late 50s and early 60s that came out with the results of "study" after "study" telling us all that cigarettes were harmless. And, of course, those "studies" were paid for by tobacco companies.

I want to see the study of the young people who are now smoking weed 6-8 times a day for the next 20 years. And, I want to see the study paid for by reputable scientific organizations - not those paid for by NORML - and we'll see what the results are.

Frankly, I don't care if you stoner jerk offs blow your brains out - means nothing to me. But you sound exactly like those idiots back then who smoked themselves to death, claiming that it did "nothing" to them; hacking their lungs out and then wanted "satisfaction" from the tobacco companies.

Stupid fools. Hell, one look at that incompetent president we have and it's relatively easy to understand the dangers of weed…..

I don't care how old you are either. Fact is the study was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association. Not quite like the Tobacco company studies. I seen studies that indicates THC might also help in the prevention of Alzheimer's. I have very little respect for the Presidents' obvious callous attitude toward the Pro-Marijuana crowd that he displayed almost immediately after being sworn in. He basically laughed them off.

 

[MikeK]

Of course not everyone's going to use it, but there will be a greater amount of people using it if it's legal.

Can you supply any form of comparative field study on which to base your stated opinion? I don't think so because there has been no such study.

I strongly disagree with your stated opinion and I submit the following comparative field study in support of my disagreement. Study compares drug policies

I believe your opinion occurs as the result of an indoctrinated right-wing mindset. Your obvious admiration of a doltish Grade-B movie actor and corporatist puppet like Ronald Reagan is evidence of your susceptibility to such a mindset.

As a general rule anything that gets you high is not good for you.

First, contrary to the popular but misguided notion that marijuana gets one "high," the fact is marijuana is a tranquilizer, not a stimulant. It does not make one "high." Its effect is calming. It very effectively relieves stress, which is a significantly positive, medically productive effect.

How bad for you is pot? Hasn't been determine yet. There are many in the medical community that believe it can lead to psychotic episodes in mentally ill people, there even a study that links pot to schizophrenia.

If you truly believe such junk science and Reefer Madness nonsense you need to read the following book: Marijuana, The Forbidden Medicine, by Dr. Lester Grinspoon, MD, PhD, Professor of Psychiatric Medicine, Harvard University (available from Amazon). Educate yourself.

In the same way as everyone who occasionally drinks beverage alcohol is not a "drunk," everyone who occasionally enjoys the effect of marijuana does not fit into the "pothead" stereotype. To presume they do is a demonstration of contemptuous ignorance.