Obama going pro pot?

[jon_berzerk]

MARIJUANA!! The Truth! - YouTube This is funny and educational.

has been smoking for three years at 15 years of age

sad really

 

[hangover]

It's been over forty years since Nixon declared war on drugs, and the drug problem is now ten thousand times worse. Heroin, cocaine, and meth are all sold by the tons now. And the government spends trillions of dollars on incarcerations, DEA, and courts. All this, because Nixon and the cons didn't like hippies.

This shows how the cons love to beat a dead horse.

 

[Meister]

[...]I have very little respect for the Presidents' obvious callous attitude toward the Pro-Marijuana crowd that he displayed almost immediately after being sworn in. He basically laughed them off.

I remember that well. It showed me who and what he really is -- a two-faced, phony bullshit artist.

As a candidate he went out of his way to convey the impression that he would deal intelligently with the problem of marijuana prohibition. But shortly after he was elected a reporter raised the issue of marijuana and he tossed it off as a petty annoyance.

Obama has been flip-flopping, er, "evolving" on several issues. Not that his mind has changed, it's for political advantage. This just goes to show the true character of the man.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Dr Dre will head Obamas dept of choom

 

[Harry Dresden]

Really? Then how do you account for:

Marijuana a major cause of accidents? What study says - CBS News

The study found that nearly 30 percent of fatally injured drivers tested positive for drugs other than alcohol, with marijuana being the main culprit.

"Given the ongoing epidemic of drug-impaired driving and the increased permissibility and accessibility of marijuana for medical use in the U.S., it is urgent that we better understand the role of marijuana in causing car accidents," study author Dr. Guohua Li, professor of epidemiology at Columbia University, said in a written statement.

For the study - published in the Oct. issue of Epidemiologic Reviews -researchers analyzed nine large-scale drugged driving studies. The researchers found that drivers who tested positive for marijuana within three hours of using were more than twice as likely to be involved in a motor vehicle crash. The study also showed that the crash risk was higher if the marijuana concentration levels found in the urine were higher.

So the more marijuana motorists smoke before getting behind the wheel, the more likely they are to crash? Stop the presses.

Teen Driver In Deadly Southern State Parkway Crash Remains Hospitalized As Investigation Continues « CBS New York


MALVERNE, N.Y. (CBSNewYork) – As friends and fellow classmates mourned the four 18-year-olds who were killed in a crash Monday on the Southern State Parkway, stunning new details on the crash have emerged.
Sources told CBS 2, the driver, 17-year-old Joseph Beer, told police he and the other victims were smoking marijuana prior to the crash.

Marijuana Use May Double the Risk of Accidents for Drivers | News | Mailman School of Public Health

o examine the link between marijuana use by drivers and risk of a car accident, researchers at Columbia University did a meta-analysis of nine epidemiologic studies and found that drivers who test positive for marijuana or who report using marijuana are more than twice as likely as other drivers to be involved in motor vehicle crashes. The researchers also found evidence that crash risk increases with the concentration of marijuana-produced compounds in the urine and the frequency of self-reported marijuana use.
According to the researchers 8 of 9 studies found that drivers who use marijuana are significantly more likely to be involved in crashes than drivers who do not.

hey Katz how come you left this out of your first link related story?......

Some experts were weary of the study's findings.

"We can't really say yet that marijuana increases the risk by two or three times," Chuck Farmer, director of statistics at the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety in Arlington, Va., told HealthDay. "Most of their studies pointed to a very strong bad effect of marijuana on driving, but there are other studies out there that actually go the other way."

doesnt go along with your mindset?....


in your second story about the teens in the crash?.....the last sentence said the cops were waiting for lab results to see if alcohol was involved,and since they were partying before hand ,it probably was,as the cops suspect......

how does it feel to be a dishonest Ass?....

It was a single sentence in a lengthy article, and two other articles. I thought your narrow little mind would zero in on that to negate everything else.

Give me one report, a single study that states unequivocally that marijuana use improves driving, cognitive function and has no detrimental effects at all. So far, it's really stupid people and men with big tits and shriveled up, useless, dicks.

is that kinda like the way your narrow little mind zeros in on a negative about Pot and negates everything else?....like that?....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Um not how it works genius . But I am sure he can find at least 200 pro pot lobby sites that will back him up.

oh it isnt?.....but we are supposed to believe 200 of your Anti-Pot sites right?....works both ways "genius".....

Who said I was anti pot ? I am just anti lie

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by saying the so called "pro-sites" are biased, while i guess you are saying the stuff you through up is not.....if you say you are not anti-pot you sure as hell cant discuss it with an open mind...

 

[Harry Dresden]

You know, I don't know how old you are and, frankly, I don't care. I'm 69. I remember the "studies" by this health "science" organization and that health "science" organization back in the late 50s and early 60s that came out with the results of "study" after "study" telling us all that cigarettes were harmless. And, of course, those "studies" were paid for by tobacco companies.

I want to see the study of the young people who are now smoking weed 6-8 times a day for the next 20 years. And, I want to see the study paid for by reputable scientific organizations - not those paid for by NORML - and we'll see what the results are.

Frankly, I don't care if you stoner jerk offs blow your brains out - means nothing to me. But you sound exactly like those idiots back then who smoked themselves to death, claiming that it did "nothing" to them; hacking their lungs out and then wanted "satisfaction" from the tobacco companies.

Stupid fools. Hell, one look at that incompetent president we have and it's relatively easy to understand the dangers of weed…..

I want to see the study of the young people who are now smoking weed 6-8 times a day for the next 20 years.

6-8 times a day?.....how much pot are you talking Randall?....someone smoking 6-8 joints by themselfs?...with someone or with 3-4 people?.....taking 6-8 hits throughout the day?.....what are you talking about?...

In my "youth" - I knew a couple of guys who became good friends. These guys would smoke like crazy all day, every day. Didn't see them for nearly 5 years and I called one of them on the phone. It sounded like Cheech and Chong was on the other end. This guy could barely put a coherent sentence together. I talked to his sister who told me that he had lost his job at GE and just laid around the house. He died from lung cancer about 7 years ago. Never smoked a cigarette in his life.

When I was in Vietnam, that shit was constantly around. I saw guys go to 'Nam as decent young men and come back as addicts - if they were lucky enough to come back at all. I have attended too many funerals of guys that couldn't put that garbage down.

I'm curious about something, however. What EXACTLY do you folks expect to happen when a republican is elected president and he DEMANDS that the laws be followed? I just read an article by the AG of Kansas who says that they are going to be watching I-70 at the border of Kansas and Colorado. If they suspect someone is bringing that garbage through Kansas, they WILL be arrested.

In my "youth" - I knew a couple of guys who became good friends.

so?....i knew a couple of guys who smoked pretty heavy too.....but i also knew dozens who did not abuse the fuck out of it and just smoked normally who went on to become pretty successful and still smoke it.....and there was many more of them......

I saw guys go to 'Nam as decent young men and come back as addicts

addicts of what,pot?.....you cannot get physically addicted so if they were Psychologically addicted,dont you think being in a fucking shit war had something to do with it?.....when i was in College during the early 70's i was around many of the Vietnam Vets who had kind of a club on campus.....many of those guys claimed Pot helped them get through the war....many of those guys seemed to have their problems,but Pot did not seem to be the problem....the effects of the war was,whether physical or mental .....

What EXACTLY do you folks expect to happen when a republican is elected president and he DEMANDS that the laws be followed?

if he is around our age he has either smoked the stuff himself or has been around it enough to know the truth about it....and if he says he hasnt.....then he is a typical lying Politician....and not all Republicans/Conservatives are as against Pot as you people on the right seem to think....

 

[billyerock1991]

In a new interview President Obama has made statements that could put him in the middle of the controversy over legalizing marijuana.

As more states have legalized the drug, President Obama in a lengthy interview in the New Yorker magazine said he believed marijuana was not more dangerous than alcohol.

"As has been well documented, I smoked pot as a kid, and I view it as a bad habit and a vice, not very different from the cigarettes that I smoked as a young person up through a big chunk of my adult life. I don't think it is more dangerous than alcohol," Obama told the New Yorker.

When asked if he believes marijuana is less dangerous than alcohol, the president is quoted as saying he thinks it was less dangerous "in terms of its impact on the individual consumer." However, he said he's told his daughters he thinks "it's a bad idea."

Excerpt: David Remnick's New Yorker Piece on President Obama

The president also voiced concern for the lengthy incarcerations associated with minor offenses related to marijuana possession.

In particular Obama talked about how minorities were more likely to be arrested and serve long sentences.

"We should not be locking up kids or individual users for long stretches of jail time when some of the folks who are writing those laws have probably done the same thing," he said.

With more states legalizing the drug either for medical reasons or for recreational use, such as in Washington and Colorado, Obama said it's important that states continue to work through the complicated issue.

"It's important for it to go forward because it's important for society not to have a situation in which a large portion of people have at one time or another broken the law and only a select few get punished," said Obama.

Obama has admitted to using marijuana as a teen and young adult and wrote about some of his experiences in his autobiography "Dreams of My Father."

In August of last year, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder proposed new sentencing guidelines for minor drug offenders that sought to minimize prison time for non-violent offenders.

Marijuana is still in the schedule 1 class for the federal Drug Enforcement Agency, putting it in the same category as heroin, LSD and ecstasy.

Obama Says Pot No More Dangerous Than Alcohol - ABC News

thats the best thing he could ever do ...here in COLORADO, yes I live in denver, its going like gangbusters ... just in one day alone the state made almost 1 million dollars in new tax revenues ... those taxes are going to road, waters, state offices and schools ... not to bad... by the end of the week all of the stores had all sold out ...they can't grow it fast enough here... the drug dealers for pot "0" ... left town ... not to worry folks they have been refilling their stock ... Rockie mountain Hiiiiiiiigh... Colorado!!!!

 

[editec]

You know, I don't know how old you are and, frankly, I don't care. I'm 69. I remember the "studies" by this health "science" organization and that health "science" organization back in the late 50s and early 60s that came out with the results of "study" after "study" telling us all that cigarettes were harmless. And, of course, those "studies" were paid for by tobacco companies.

I want to see the study of the young people who are now smoking weed 6-8 times a day for the next 20 years. And, I want to see the study paid for by reputable scientific organizations - not those paid for by NORML - and we'll see what the results are.

Frankly, I don't care if you stoner jerk offs blow your brains out - means nothing to me. But you sound exactly like those idiots back then who smoked themselves to death, claiming that it did "nothing" to them; hacking their lungs out and then wanted "satisfaction" from the tobacco companies.

Stupid fools. Hell, one look at that incompetent president we have and it's relatively easy to understand the dangers of weed…..

I want to see the study of the young people who are now smoking weed 6-8 times a day for the next 20 years.

6-8 times a day?.....how much pot are you talking Randall?....someone smoking 6-8 joints by themselfs?...with someone or with 3-4 people?.....taking 6-8 hits throughout the day?.....what are you talking about?...

In my "youth" - I knew a couple of guys who became good friends. These guys would smoke like crazy all day, every day. Didn't see them for nearly 5 years and I called one of them on the phone. It sounded like Cheech and Chong was on the other end. This guy could barely put a coherent sentence together. I talked to his sister who told me that he had lost his job at GE and just laid around the house. He died from lung cancer about 7 years ago. Never smoked a cigarette in his life.

When I was in Vietnam, that shit was constantly around. I saw guys go to 'Nam as decent young men and come back as addicts - if they were lucky enough to come back at all. I have attended too many funerals of guys that couldn't put that garbage down.


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[Harry Dresden]

Um not how it works genius . But I am sure he can find at least 200 pro pot lobby sites that will back him up.

oh it isnt?.....but we are supposed to believe 200 of your Anti-Pot sites right?....works both ways "genius".....

Son you wouldn't believe shit until it kills you. You go right a head and smoke pot till you are in a coma I dont really care just stop telling lies about how awesome this life threatening drug is.

i said it was awesome?...and of course you cant prove i lied because your anti-pot sites can be viewed as bullshit themselves cant they?.....your problem Thanatos is just like Katsndogs problem....you both thought "Reefer Madness" was the truth....but then it was made for people like you....

 

[Katzndogz]

oh it isnt?.....but we are supposed to believe 200 of your Anti-Pot sites right?....works both ways "genius".....

Son you wouldn't believe shit until it kills you. You go right a head and smoke pot till you are in a coma I dont really care just stop telling lies about how awesome this life threatening drug is.

i said it was awesome?...and of course you cant prove i lied because your anti-pot sites can be viewed as bullshit themselves cant they?.....your problem Thanatos is just like Katsndogs problem....you both thought "Reefer Madness" was the truth....but then it was made for people like you....

Your problem is that you think all critical assessments of pot is Reefer Madness.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Son you wouldn't believe shit until it kills you. You go right a head and smoke pot till you are in a coma I dont really care just stop telling lies about how awesome this life threatening drug is.

i said it was awesome?...and of course you cant prove i lied because your anti-pot sites can be viewed as bullshit themselves cant they?.....your problem Thanatos is just like Katsndogs problem....you both thought "Reefer Madness" was the truth....but then it was made for people like you....

Your problem is that you think all critical assessments of pot is Reefer Madness.

only from you and others that think like you....others here against Pot Katz at least talk like they have either smoked it before or have at least been around it.....you talk like someone who has never even seen a joint and just goes by what anti-pot shit you read....and some of your "tales" kind of back that up.....many here that have practical experience with the stuff find you hard to believe,we have seen that in many of the Pot Threads here you have been in.....

 

[hangover]

What EXACTLY do you folks expect to happen when a republican is elected president and he DEMANDS that the laws be followed?

Well IF IF IF this country ever gets that stupid again, you can bet there's going to be a lot more prisons built. Six million Jews in concentration camps in Germany will be nothing compared to the 30 million pot smokers that the tax payers will have to pay to incarcerate. Beat that dead horse, beat it harder.

 

[RandallFlagg]

Reading these messages, I am so glad that I'm an old man…

Record deficits
Record number of people unemployed
Record number of people ON unemployment
Record number of jobs going from full time to part time
Record number of people on food stamps




But you got pot.



And to the idiot that lives in Denver - you truly are an idiot. I thought the lottery was supposed to take care of infrastructure? Oh wait…I thought it was the Casinos?…Now it's pot.

Your city is a cess pool. Congratulations.

 

[RandallFlagg]

What EXACTLY do you folks expect to happen when a republican is elected president and he DEMANDS that the laws be followed?

Well IF IF IF this country ever gets that stupid again, you can bet there's going to be a lot more prisons built. Six million Jews in concentration camps in Germany will be nothing compared to the 30 million pot smokers that the tax payers will have to pay to incarcerate. Beat that dead horse, beat it harder.

Hey stupid…here's a little education for your dumb ass….pot is STILL illegal and has been for years. States that have "legalized" it are in violation of federal law. Put the damned pipe down you moron. It's making you stupid.

 

[natstew]

I smoked pot for 28 years then I was forced not to smoke it for long enough to wake up, now I don't smoke it and don't want to see it legalized.
If your reality is so bad that you use a mood and mind altering substance to artificailly change it, I say, why not change reality and keep the mind?

 

[bendog]

I think he's going Pol Pot. (-:

 

[Destroyer2]

Why should I be able to drink alcohol or smoke cigarettes, but not be able to smoke marijuana?

I think this is the question many people are missing.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Wouldn't say he's pro-pot so much as pro-truth. Truth is it is far less dangerous than alcohol. Can drop dead on the spot drinking too much alcohol, but you can't smoke too much marijuana and fall over dead.

 

[HenryBHough]

Wouldn't say he's pro-pot so much as pro-truth. Truth is it is far less dangerous than alcohol. Can drop dead on the spot drinking too much alcohol, but you can't smoke too much marijuana and fall over dead.

But DO keep on trying!