Obama-care lands at the supreme court, what your thoughts?

[manifold]

Social Security, Medicare, also unconstitutional unless I missed seeing that power granted to the federal government among the enumerated powers. Care to point out where the feds have this authority?

Right or wrong, the SCOTUS ruled that they do.

But whatcha gonna do?

 

[JRK]

There is a big difference in paying taxes and paying a private insurance company by force

Exactly. That's why raising taxes to pay for a public option might not sit well with you, but at least it would be constitutional.

I am a cancer survivor
insurance as well as the system has some serious issues, the care is 100%
I had test I really did not need
I had test that saved my life

You ae 100% correct about the public option

 

[asaratis]

my thoughts are that this belongs in the healthcare section.

you asked.

Healthcare section?
Its is the largest political battle this country has ever seen

you have the judicial
the legislative and the executive
This will for ever change the health-care system in our country no matter what the out-come

It also took the focus off of what we really needed to be focused with at that time, the economy

The largest and most crucial political battle today is the one remove the Clown in Chief and his Marxist enfluence. That Obama are is unconstitutional is not significant to them.

 

[Jarhead]

It's all up to Kennedy.

Sotomoyor, Ginsberg, Breyer and Kagan are all whackadoo NeoFascists who insist the State has the ability to direct ever conceivable human activity under the "Good and Commerce" Clause.

Roberts, Alito, Thomas and Scalia actually take their oath to uphold the Constitution seriously.

Kagan was in charge of defending Obamacare as President Barack Obama’s solicitor general before he appointed her, so she should be recused, but its 5 to 4 any how.

The apopropriate thing would be for her to recuse herself.

 

[Lovebears65]

I think if the mandate says its unconstitutional by 2 courts the supreme court will do the same with out this mandate to make us pay a penalty there is no funding for the law there for no law. I am glad.. To many sneaky things are in there like all our medical records will be free for the government to see what about Hippa , patient doctor privacy its all out the window!

 

[Rocko]

It's all up to Kennedy.

Sotomoyor, Ginsberg, Breyer and Kagan are all whackadoo NeoFascists who insist the State has the ability to direct ever conceivable human activity under the "Good and Commerce" Clause.

Roberts, Alito, Thomas and Scalia actually take their oath to uphold the Constitution seriously.

Kagan was in charge of defending Obamacare as President Barack Obama’s solicitor general before he appointed her, so she should be recused, but its 5 to 4 any how.

The apopropriate thing would be for her to recuse herself.

right.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

This is for all the marbles, folks.

 

[manifold]

I think if the mandate says its unconstitutional by 2 courts the supreme court will do the same with out this mandate to make us pay a penalty there is no funding for the law there for no law. I am glad.. To many sneaky things are in there like all our medical records will be free for the government to see what about Hippa , patient doctor privacy its all out the window!

This would be a wise investment:

 

[Conservative]

If the government can make you purchase car insurance, pay into your social security retirement fund, medicare insurance, etc etc etc.., fining someone who does not purchase healthcare insurance is as legal as any of the aforementioned.

if the government tells you you must buy TV's from Sony, and you hate Sony, are you ok with that?

 

[Uncensored2008]

There are 5 constitutionalists on the SCOTUS. Unless Obama or one of his disciples knocks one of them off, Obama's fascist care is about to be tossed out.

 

[manifold]

There are 5 constitutionalists on the SCOTUS. Unless Obama or one of his disciples knocks one of them off, Obama's fascist care is about to be tossed out.

I hope you're right, but I'm not nearly as confident as you seem to be.

(See: Kelo v. New London)

 

[Foxfyre]

Obamacare Has Arrived in the Supreme Court

Well all we can do now is pray these people will do the right thing for this country

what do you think about this movement to do away with elections?

I want the SCOTUS to throw Obamacare out in its entirety but will settle for the mandate parts of it.

I do not want to do away with elections. I DO want to do away with ALL ability that Congress has to dispense the taxpayer's money as benevolence or favor to any person, group, entity, or special interest. That would take care of a huge chunk of graft and corruption in Congress and also among the beneficiaries of the 'benevolence'. It would also take the problem out of lobbying and campaign contributions.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Obamacare Has Arrived in the Supreme Court

Well all we can do now is pray these people will do the right thing for this country

what do you think about this movement to do away with elections?

I want the SCOTUS to throw Obamacare out in its entirety but will settle for the mandate parts of it.

I do not want to do away with elections. I DO want to do away with ALL ability that Congress has to dispense the taxpayer's money as benevolence or favor to any person, group, entity, or special interest. That would take care of a huge chunk of graft and corruption in Congress and also among the beneficiaries of the 'benevolence'. It would also take the problem out of lobbying and campaign contributions.

The way the law was written it's all or none

 

[kiwiman127]

I hope they declare Obamacare un-Constitutional, I mean mandating people and employers about healthcare insurance,,come on!
BUT in the same breath, something has to be done about the out-of-control costs of health care. Tort reform would only efect the pricing by 2% or less. The cost of health care is a contributor to our staggering economy.
According to the Kaiser Foundation, health care insurance costs have gone up 113% from 2001 to 2011 and it's not just because of Obamacare as the costs have been at this steady rate long before Obamacare was even thought about.

Health-care costs soar at an unsustainable pace

Health-care cost trends in this country are unsustainable and are driving a whole range of major challenges, from our growing federal and state budget problems to the competitiveness of U.S. business in international markets to the decline in the economic power of the middle and working classes.

Take a look. The first chart, below, comes from a Kaiser Foundation report just released today. It found that health-insurance premiums had risen 113 percent between 2001 and 2011, and worker contributions to health insurance had risen by 131 percent. Family health-insurance premiums rose by 9 percent alone in 2011.

The second chart, based on the most recent data from the 34-nation Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development, documents the disadvantage this country faces internationally. We do not, by most measures, have the world’s greatest health-care system, but we undoubtedly have the most expensive. These trends constitute a major “tax” on our nation’s productivity, competitiveness and quality of life.
Health-care costs soar at an unsustainable pace | Jay Bookman

 

[Uncensored2008]

It's all up to Kennedy.

Sotomoyor, Ginsberg, Breyer and Kagan are all whackadoo NeoFascists who insist the State has the ability to direct every conceivable human activity under the "Good and Commerce" Clause.

Roberts, Alito, Thomas and Scalia actually take their oath to uphold the Constitution seriously.

Ginsberg and Kagan are avowed Marxists. Sotomayor is a fucking retard, an Affirmative Action appointment.

Kennedy often leans left, but he is a constitutionalists and will vote to toss fascist care out.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I hope Thomas gets to write for the majority because that's the opinion that will be used to overturn the entire Progressive Agenda

 

[Avatar4321]

My first thought is 5 to 4, nice try socialists.

Then you are conveniently naive

 

[Sunshine]

If the government can make you purchase car insurance, pay into your social security retirement fund, medicare insurance, etc etc etc.., fining someone who does not purchase healthcare insurance is as legal as any of the aforementioned.

Of course when that person needs health care services the taxpayers will pick up the tab just like they do now!

 

[Rocko]

It's all up to Kennedy.

Sotomoyor, Ginsberg, Breyer and Kagan are all whackadoo NeoFascists who insist the State has the ability to direct every conceivable human activity under the "Good and Commerce" Clause.

Roberts, Alito, Thomas and Scalia actually take their oath to uphold the Constitution seriously.

Ginsberg and Kagan are avowed Marxists. Sotomayor is a fucking retard, an Affirmative Action appointment.

Kennedy often leans left, but he is a constitutionalists and will vote to toss fascist care out.

I hope Ginsberg doesn't croke while Obama is in office, but even if she does, he can't pick worse.

 

[Avatar4321]

It's all up to Kennedy.

Sotomoyor, Ginsberg, Breyer and Kagan are all whackadoo NeoFascists who insist the State has the ability to direct every conceivable human activity under the "Good and Commerce" Clause.

Roberts, Alito, Thomas and Scalia actually take their oath to uphold the Constitution seriously.

Ginsberg and Kagan are avowed Marxists. Sotomayor is a fucking retard, an Affirmative Action appointment.

Kennedy often leans left, but he is a constitutionalists and will vote to toss fascist care out.

I hope Ginsberg doesn't croke while Obama is in office, but even if she does, he can't pick worse.

Again, that's dangerously naive